Pedders XA Ride Quality with D2 Forged 22 VS1s - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

foxman · 03-01-2010, 11:46 PM

Okay guys,

I'm finally pretty close to complete with my 2SS/RS. I've got about 1700 miles on it and have enjoyed every one so far.

First, I must say, I loved this car from the day I saw the first concept. I bought the car and refused to test drive it until my car arrived. I can not explain how impressed I have been with the ride quality. It is soft and cushiony but still feels confidently planted.

Now that I've driven it and LOVE the ride quality AND had already placed my order for 22" D2Forged VS1 whees, I cannot explain to you how concerned I was in losing ride quality.

All through the equipment selection and build process, my biggest concern has been my wheel choice of using 22" wheels. From the first time I laid my eyes on the D2Forged VS1 on the LMR car, I was in LOVE... I knew I had to have these wheels!!!! But as I waited the months for my car and a couple more months for finally my wheels to arrive, I sweated wondering how much the ride quality would suffer with the larger wheels and the very thin sidewalls.

I read all the posts that I could find and after see sawing back and forth while waiting on my wheels, I finally decided to get a set of Pedders Extreme XAs to install on the car to get the ride height right and to hopefully compensate for the degredation in ride quality I was expecting.

First I have to say that when I got the wheels, they were more beautiful and flawless than I expected. Derrick was a pleasure to work with and really came through for me when UPS lost my lugs by overnighting another set. Oh yeah, and get this. They deliver three wheels on a Friday with no lugs. I've been waiting months for them and all I can do is stare at them and can't even but them on the car until Monday when the last wheel arrives.

During the installation of the Pedders coilovers, I was shocked to notice the differences in the sizes of the huge springs that were coming off and the much smaller linear spings of the pedders going on. My guts were telling me. Man, this car is going to ride like a wooden wheel stage coach...maybe you should just sell this shit and stick with what you have.

All I can say it that would have been a HUGE mistake!!!!

We got everything mounted up, ride height set, and aligned and I pulled it out of the garage for our first test drive and wow what a ride!!!

Guys, for those of you out there worried about ride quality with the pedders Extreme XA and 22" wheels. I'm here to silence those demons that you hear in your dreams. QUIT WORRYING...

The ride quality is awesome. The car feels as if its on rails as far as handling goes. Miles and miles better than the original gear. I cannot find the proper adjectives to describe the difference but I'll try.

The factory suspension feels much softer and cushiony with much more nose dive and body role. It feels more like my 2001 Impala SS I drove a few years back. Nice car but hardly a sports car by my standards but very very comfortable to drive everyday.

The pedders suspension with the VS1s feels much more planted. You feel the road but not in a bad way. You notice the hills and valleys in the road but the car settles very nicely and doesn't get upset when you hit a unexpected hill or dip. Cornering is unbelievable. Even without modifications to the sway bars, the cars body roll is drastically reduced. Braking has also no noticable nose dive. I can best describe it as more like my 2004 Infiniti G35. Stil very very comfortable, but much more of the nuansiances of the road are transmitted to the driver.

One final note on ride quality that I found interesting. Bumps are a bit more noticable but not so much as to be of any concern. You will have to pay a little closer attention when approaching large objects like railroad tracks and such but come on. You cut two inches off of your sidewalls!

As a final verdict for those of you trying to balance style and comfort, It is a step worth taking if you have an extra $9K burning a hole in your pocket. My camaro now stands out in a crowd.

Pics to come soon.

D2FORGED · 03-02-2010, 10:28 PM

Jason my man thanks so much for the kind words. I knew you were VERY apprehensive on the 22" wheels, and it would take some hand holding, but we got there!!

Pics or ban!!!!

Stewcam · 03-03-2010, 05:39 AM

congrats foxman! glad your wheels turned out well. I love mine too. I ordered the Pfadt coilovers but they are not here yet. Can't wait to see the pics. How much did you lower it?

full of days · 03-03-2010, 05:48 AM

did you go ahead with the pedders bushing upgrade while the springs were off?

foxman · 03-05-2010, 04:48 PM

Hey guys. here's some pics.

I'm not sure how much I lowered it. but its probably about 1.5". I did the pedders XA coilovers and made adjustments on the alignment machine but don't know what the measurements were before I put the wheels and coilovers on.

I didn't do the bushings as we considered that that would impact ride quality to much.

SGOS252382 · 03-05-2010, 05:17 PM

I would love to do the coilovers but how much $$$$?

I've pretty much decided I don't want to just add lowering springs, because the Camaro SS's suspension is already pretty stiff. I wouldn't want to make the ride any stiffer for daily driving.

I want to lower my car while still retaining the stock or better than stock ride quality. Then if I want to race the car, I can adjust the suspension (firm it up).

Kilo-9 · 03-05-2010, 09:29 PM

Can't see the pics, but really want to!

D2FORGED · 03-05-2010, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kilo-9

Can't see the pics, but really want to!

Same here!!!

Jason I left you a vm today about TX2K, are you gonna be able to make it down?

toehead93 · 03-05-2010, 10:43 PM

I'm waiting on pics too. I just installed XAs last weekend and they are awesome. They do not ride too stiff but the car feels completely planted and so much quicker through the corners. I highly recommend.

gmag21 · 03-05-2010, 10:49 PM

I wanna see pics

Indpowr · 03-05-2010, 10:53 PM

cool

foxman · 03-06-2010, 01:32 AM

What do you think guys?

foxman · 03-06-2010, 01:33 AM

When is TX2K?

foxman · 03-06-2010, 01:41 AM

2SS/RS LS3 M6 Black on Black
Pedders Extreme XA
D2Forged VS1 22s w/Pirelli PZeros
Vararam Forced Air Intake
American Racing 2" Headers
Borla Touring Exhaust
EFILive Programmer with custom Tune
Barton Shifter
Escort 9200ci Radar with laser and radar jammers
Kicker 10" with 400Watt Kicker using Audio Control signal mixer
Proclip Iphone holder
Billet Anything billet pedals
Zaino coating on everything.
Custom paint going on engine cover now.
Custom paint scheme in design.

03-01-2010, 11:46 PM	#1
foxman Drives: 2010 2SS Black Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 39	Pedders XA Ride Quality with D2 Forged 22 VS1s Okay guys, I'm finally pretty close to complete with my 2SS/RS. I've got about 1700 miles on it and have enjoyed every one so far. First, I must say, I loved this car from the day I saw the first concept. I bought the car and refused to test drive it until my car arrived. I can not explain how impressed I have been with the ride quality. It is soft and cushiony but still feels confidently planted. Now that I've driven it and LOVE the ride quality AND had already placed my order for 22" D2Forged VS1 whees, I cannot explain to you how concerned I was in losing ride quality. All through the equipment selection and build process, my biggest concern has been my wheel choice of using 22" wheels. From the first time I laid my eyes on the D2Forged VS1 on the LMR car, I was in LOVE... I knew I had to have these wheels!!!! But as I waited the months for my car and a couple more months for finally my wheels to arrive, I sweated wondering how much the ride quality would suffer with the larger wheels and the very thin sidewalls. I read all the posts that I could find and after see sawing back and forth while waiting on my wheels, I finally decided to get a set of Pedders Extreme XAs to install on the car to get the ride height right and to hopefully compensate for the degredation in ride quality I was expecting. First I have to say that when I got the wheels, they were more beautiful and flawless than I expected. Derrick was a pleasure to work with and really came through for me when UPS lost my lugs by overnighting another set. Oh yeah, and get this. They deliver three wheels on a Friday with no lugs. I've been waiting months for them and all I can do is stare at them and can't even but them on the car until Monday when the last wheel arrives. During the installation of the Pedders coilovers, I was shocked to notice the differences in the sizes of the huge springs that were coming off and the much smaller linear spings of the pedders going on. My guts were telling me. Man, this car is going to ride like a wooden wheel stage coach...maybe you should just sell this shit and stick with what you have. All I can say it that would have been a HUGE mistake!!!! We got everything mounted up, ride height set, and aligned and I pulled it out of the garage for our first test drive and wow what a ride!!! Guys, for those of you out there worried about ride quality with the pedders Extreme XA and 22" wheels. I'm here to silence those demons that you hear in your dreams. QUIT WORRYING... The ride quality is awesome. The car feels as if its on rails as far as handling goes. Miles and miles better than the original gear. I cannot find the proper adjectives to describe the difference but I'll try. The factory suspension feels much softer and cushiony with much more nose dive and body role. It feels more like my 2001 Impala SS I drove a few years back. Nice car but hardly a sports car by my standards but very very comfortable to drive everyday. The pedders suspension with the VS1s feels much more planted. You feel the road but not in a bad way. You notice the hills and valleys in the road but the car settles very nicely and doesn't get upset when you hit a unexpected hill or dip. Cornering is unbelievable. Even without modifications to the sway bars, the cars body roll is drastically reduced. Braking has also no noticable nose dive. I can best describe it as more like my 2004 Infiniti G35. Stil very very comfortable, but much more of the nuansiances of the road are transmitted to the driver. One final note on ride quality that I found interesting. Bumps are a bit more noticable but not so much as to be of any concern. You will have to pay a little closer attention when approaching large objects like railroad tracks and such but come on. You cut two inches off of your sidewalls! As a final verdict for those of you trying to balance style and comfort, It is a step worth taking if you have an extra $9K burning a hole in your pocket. My camaro now stands out in a crowd. Pics to come soon.

03-03-2010, 05:39 AM	#3
Stewcam Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Woodlands, TX Posts: 332	congrats foxman! glad your wheels turned out well. I love mine too. I ordered the Pfadt coilovers but they are not here yet. Can't wait to see the pics. How much did you lower it? __________________ Yellow SS/RS LMR Twisted Slayer 650 RWHP, ARH Headers, Hi-flow cats, Carbon/Organic Twin Disc/Pfadt/BMR/Hurst Shifter/D2forged VS1's

03-03-2010, 05:48 AM	#4
full of days Drives: Camaro GT Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Charlotte Posts: 723	did you go ahead with the pedders bushing upgrade while the springs were off? __________________ *Post Tenebras Lux*

03-05-2010, 09:29 PM	#7
Kilo-9 Dog Is My Copilot Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,394	Can't see the pics, but really want to! __________________

03-05-2010, 10:43 PM	#9
toehead93 Drives: 2014 2SS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: wpb fl Posts: 3,135 View My Garage	I'm waiting on pics too. I just installed XAs last weekend and they are awesome. They do not ride too stiff but the car feels completely planted and so much quicker through the corners. I highly recommend. __________________ Used Racing Brake 2 Peice Rotors for sale: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344754 Summit White 2014 2SS 1LE Recaros, NPP exhaust, Nav 2010 2SS A6 - sold.

03-02-2010, 10:28 PM	#2
D2FORGED Drives: C5 Corvette Z51 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Plainview, NY Posts: 476	Jason my man thanks so much for the kind words. I knew you were VERY apprehensive on the 22" wheels, and it would take some hand holding, but we got there!! Pics or ban!!!!

03-05-2010, 04:48 PM	#5
foxman Drives: 2010 2SS Black Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 39	Hey guys. here's some pics. I'm not sure how much I lowered it. but its probably about 1.5". I did the pedders XA coilovers and made adjustments on the alignment machine but don't know what the measurements were before I put the wheels and coilovers on. I didn't do the bushings as we considered that that would impact ride quality to much.

03-05-2010, 05:17 PM	#6
SGOS252382 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: S.W. Florida Posts: 6,294	I would love to do the coilovers but how much $$$$? I've pretty much decided I don't want to just add lowering springs, because the Camaro SS's suspension is already pretty stiff. I wouldn't want to make the ride any stiffer for daily driving. I want to lower my car while still retaining the stock or better than stock ride quality. Then if I want to race the car, I can adjust the suspension (firm it up).

03-05-2010, 10:49 PM	#10
gmag21 gmag21 Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS/RS Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lafayette/Kingwood Posts: 336	I wanna see pics __________________ L99 \| Billyboat Exhaust, American Racing Headers, Pfadt Springs and Sways, Tune \| 350 whp / 371 tq

03-05-2010, 10:53 PM	#11
Indpowr Account Suspended Drives: Corvette C6 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 6,959 View My Garage	cool

03-06-2010, 01:32 AM	#12
foxman Drives: 2010 2SS Black Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 39	Here are some pics. What do you think guys? Attached Images

03-06-2010, 01:33 AM	#13
foxman Drives: 2010 2SS Black Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 39	When is TX2K?

03-06-2010, 01:41 AM	#14
foxman Drives: 2010 2SS Black Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 39	Here's my build list 2SS/RS LS3 M6 Black on Black Pedders Extreme XA D2Forged VS1 22s w/Pirelli PZeros Vararam Forced Air Intake American Racing 2" Headers Borla Touring Exhaust EFILive Programmer with custom Tune Barton Shifter Escort 9200ci Radar with laser and radar jammers Kicker 10" with 400Watt Kicker using Audio Control signal mixer Proclip Iphone holder Billet Anything billet pedals Zaino coating on everything. Custom paint going on engine cover now. Custom paint scheme in design.

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