CF hood and CAI

[sultanofsorrow]

so i was wondering, if you got a aftermarket hood like the Seibon Carbon Fiber hoods, would a cold air intake still work if its using the weather striping to keep a seal, or would you have to go with a self contained CAI like CAI inc, or something thats by the radiator like Vararam or volant. not really sure if the aftermarket hood will conform the same way as stock to make sure hot air isn't just coming in

[ron10]

i have read threads that say they will work,but if you are serious about getting one,i would check with the mfg.or like you said just put the CAI inc.on it.

[sultanofsorrow]

was also wondering, if you get the hoods with the Heat Extractor does it matter if it doesn't create a seal because its getting fresh air anyways. i'm still kind of new to this whole modding thing and mostly just spend countless time reading threads about over the radiator or the normal cia that replace the original box

[2010 2-Tone]

Go with the ADM. Great looking, adds hp, it is self contained and doesn't require a seal, Andy is great to work with and because I said so!!!

[Michael_Js]

Well, I think the question is more along the lines of what I want to know. I have an ADM Street CAI and now have a RK Sport Ait induction hood that bring fresh air "over" the airbox. Would it be beneficial to open up the ADM cover to allow the fresh air in the top as well?

Then, if so, should I make some sort of seal so no engine heat gets in? Is any of that worth it? That is one of the reasons I went with a functional hood - which also has heat extractors.

I believe that is what the OP is asking - please correct me if I am wrong. If not, then it is my question

Thanks!

[sultanofsorrow]

well wasn't my very original question but was indeed my follow up question

[Michael_Js]

Ok, I'm still looking for an answer though. Maybe I'll call Andy @ADM tomorrow...

thanks

[axis]

Originally Posted by sultanofsorrow

was also wondering, if you get the hoods with the Heat Extractor does it matter if it doesn't create a seal because its getting fresh air anyways. i'm still kind of new to this whole modding thing and mostly just spend countless time reading threads about over the radiator or the normal cia that replace the original box

The heat extractor removes heat from the engine bay and doesn't directly affect a CAI unless you have one that doesn't have a heatshield.

Originally Posted by 2010 2-Tone

Go with the ADM. Great looking, adds hp, it is self contained and doesn't require a seal, Andy is great to work with and because I said so!!!

It DOES have a seal. It's just in a completely sealed unit, on the topside. Makes getting a functional airscoop hood useless, except for looks.

Originally Posted by Michael_Js

Well, I think the question is more along the lines of what I want to know. I have an ADM Street CAI and now have a RK Sport Ait induction hood that bring fresh air "over" the airbox. Would it be beneficial to open up the ADM cover to allow the fresh air in the top as well?

Then, if so, should I make some sort of seal so no engine heat gets in? Is any of that worth it? That is one of the reasons I went with a functional hood - which also has heat extractors.

I believe that is what the OP is asking - please correct me if I am wrong. If not, then it is my question

Thanks!

Yes you would benefit from using the hood's fresh air. You'd be much better off selling your ADM unit and getting one that is open on the top. You could modify the ADM unit but i'd bet you could sell yours for more than a good open top one would cost and it would probably look better than a modified ADM.

[Michael_Js]

Thanks for the input!

[sultanofsorrow]

so let me just make sure i'm getting this right before i actually start doing stuff. if i'm going to get an air scoop or heat extractor then i won't really need a heat shield or anything along those lines or a unit thats self contained. is that the correct thinking? or should i still get a CAI that has a heat shield but don't have to worry as much about the weather stripping not making a tight enough seal against an aftermarket hood

[Michael_Js]

Good question...if I open up my ADM CAI top, there is about 4" from that to the air output from the hood...I was going to try and rig something up, but am not sure how I would seal that large of a gap...

[axis]

Originally Posted by sultanofsorrow

so let me just make sure i'm getting this right before i actually start doing stuff. if i'm going to get an air scoop or heat extractor then i won't really need a heat shield or anything along those lines or a unit thats self contained. is that the correct thinking? or should i still get a CAI that has a heat shield but don't have to worry as much about the weather stripping not making a tight enough seal against an aftermarket hood

Stop and think about it for a minute. Which hood are you going with? If it's one that diverts the "scooped air" to the OEM location, what's the use of a enclosed top CAI? If you get one that doesn't have a heatshield, it will still suck in some hot engine bay air. You want the absolutely coldest air possible being sucked into your intake. What you want is one that DOES NOT have a top on it, but DOES have a heatshield. This way you have the scoop feeding intake as well as the holes around the OEM location. Theoretcially, this should give you ambient or within a degree or two of ambient air being drawn into the intake. The heat extractors are just that. They help remove some of the under hood heat which is a good thing. My post earlier was just to say that it might affect the unshielded CAI intake temps by lowering the underhood temps a little. Certainly not near enough to make it worth running without a shield though. All of the open top CAI's are tall enough and have good weather stripping to seal well against the hood. At least I haven't seen one that didn't fit fairly well.

Originally Posted by Michael_Js

Good question...if I open up my ADM CAI top, there is about 4" from that to the air output from the hood...I was going to try and rig something up, but am not sure how I would seal that large of a gap...

That was my point about selling yours. The ADM is a sweet looking CAI but it would take a lot of work to make it look good after being modded with the top off. The choice is yours though. I was thinking that you could probably get $400-450 for your ADM, then buy a Halltech for $340. That would allow you to pocket $60+ and get a great CAI that is made to work with your hood.

[Roto-fab 1]

We haven't tested any aftermarket hoods for the Camaro, but our hood seal has done well with aftermarket hoods for other makes. On a HEMI application the owner installed the hood seal on our box without fully engaging the top edge. This allowed the hood seal to be about 3/8" higher than normal. He then closed the hood allowing it to push down the hood seal as needed. As the hood approaches the fenders and nose, it must adjust to a profile similar to stock for good alignment-I think that's why our systems tend to work out with various hoods. Further, most of the hoods we have dealt with used an inside panel which was made from a "splash" taken from the factory hood.
This is no guarantee our intake will seal with all aftermarket hoods-just sharing our experience with this situation. Hopefully, we will have some customer feedback from Camaro owners to share in the near future.

[axis]

Originally Posted by Roto-fab 1

We haven't tested any aftermarket hoods for the Camaro, but our hood seal has done well with aftermarket hoods for other makes. On a HEMI application the owner installed the hood seal on our box without fully engaging the top edge. This allowed the hood seal to be about 3/8" higher than normal. He then closed the hood allowing it to push down the hood seal as needed. As the hood approaches the fenders and nose, it must adjust to a profile similar to stock for good alignment-I think that's why our systems tend to work out with various hoods. Further, most of the hoods we have dealt with used an inside panel which was made from a "splash" taken from the factory hood.
This is no guarantee our intake will seal with all aftermarket hoods-just sharing our experience with this situation. Hopefully, we will have some customer feedback from Camaro owners to share in the near future.

Reading your comment reminded me that the OEM hood has the felt like material on it. That is something that needs to be considered if you're going aftermarket and want a good seal. I don't know about the RK hood but the Nickey Chicago Stinger hood supposedly seals well with the Halltech. I don't see why it would be any different with the Rotofab. While the intake tubes have their design differences, the shields look very similar.