Broken Valve stem???? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Badger · 05-26-2010, 02:19 PM

Well my car is in the shop for a stage 2 cam upgrade and tune....I already had Kook's LT's and full exhaust on with the STOCK tune...and a CAI....my baseline was 425rwhp....My guy starts the install and when removing one of the rocker arms he finds a broken valve stem in the tip area

...He says he has never seen this and it just should not happen..Now the fun part to deal with the General for warranty work

...He said I probably would have never known as it was still holding together...in a way I'm glad I went in for this upgrade or it may have been an issue down the road....I just hope I don't get a run around from GM on the warranty

...I do not race this car but I do some spirited driving on occasion..I'm guessing a bad valve from the factory?? anyone else seen this at all??

FB3 · 05-26-2010, 02:36 PM

It will be very interesting to see how this plays out. My initial guess is that you are in for a long, hard fight to get this covered by warranty.

However, since it was never tuned you may have a chance. Definitely keep us posted on the proceedings.

ron10 · 05-26-2010, 02:39 PM

i'll bet this is going to be fun.i can just see it now.good luck.

toehead93 · 05-26-2010, 02:48 PM

You're not the only one:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85077

Badger · 05-26-2010, 02:49 PM

I hear ya....like I said ,stock tune in place...I don't think an exhaust system would cause a failure like that

v6sonoma · 05-26-2010, 03:01 PM

I think the part where he was installing a new cam is gonna screw you. How do you know he didn't break it? Thats what they will say. BS or not thats how it will go down.

silverfox · 05-26-2010, 03:32 PM

I bet it was an intake valve because the intake rockers are offset a bit and maybe caused that.

Kenneth · 05-26-2010, 03:53 PM

Which engine is this L99 or LS3? Just curious.

Badger · 05-26-2010, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenneth

Which engine is this L99 or LS3? Just curious.

LS3

Badger · 05-26-2010, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v6sonoma

I think the part where he was installing a new cam is gonna screw you. How do you know he didn't break it? Thats what they will say. BS or not thats how it will go down.

I don't know...I'm not a mechanic...is it possible to break a valve stem while disassembling a rocker arm?? Good Question...I would hope a reputable shop would step up and admit they did it if that were the case.

busarider1971 · 05-26-2010, 04:13 PM

damn dude and fellow LEO...im going thru the same thing...but i just added a cai. mine was an exaust valve. the dealer is fixing it. but i dont know with all your mods they will be looking for a tune or say that it was running lean because of the LT. is yours a M6 or A6?

BSR-1 · 05-26-2010, 04:28 PM

If you already have the guy installing a cam & he sees a broken valve just go to GM & buy a valve & have your guy replace it. can't cost that much for a valve can it?
I say this because I bet if GM catches wind of all your mods they're not gonna cover it anyway, (or any thing else down the road).

VADER SS L99 · 05-27-2010, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSR-1

If you already have the guy installing a cam & he sees a broken valve just go to GM & buy a valve & have your guy replace it. can't cost that much for a valve can it?
I say this because I bet if GM catches wind of all your mods they're not gonna cover it anyway, (or any thing else down the road).

this seems easier to me if you are going to get the cam and tune in the future anyway. If you are now not getting the cam and tune then I would fight Gm on it.

SK360 · 05-27-2010, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badger

is it possible to break a valve stem while disassembling a rocker arm??

No way....

You undo the bolt and lift the rocker off... no way to break a valve stem while doing so.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSR-1

If you already have the guy installing a cam & he sees a broken valve just go to GM & buy a valve & have your guy replace it. can't cost that much for a valve can it?
I say this because I bet if GM catches wind of all your mods they're not gonna cover it anyway, (or any thing else down the road).

You know the head has to come off to replace the valve right? So add a new head gasket, head bolt kit, labor of pulling the head and cleaning up the gasket surfaces and spilled coolant. Sounds easier and cheaper to let the dealer fix it if it is under warranty.

05-26-2010, 02:19 PM	#1
Badger Drives: 2010 ABM SS #14 of 2,027 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York Posts: 1,217	Broken Valve stem???? Well my car is in the shop for a stage 2 cam upgrade and tune....I already had Kook's LT's and full exhaust on with the STOCK tune...and a CAI....my baseline was 425rwhp....My guy starts the install and when removing one of the rocker arms he finds a broken valve stem in the tip area...He says he has never seen this and it just should not happen..Now the fun part to deal with the General for warranty work...He said I probably would have never known as it was still holding together...in a way I'm glad I went in for this upgrade or it may have been an issue down the road....I just hope I don't get a run around from GM on the warranty...I do not race this car but I do some spirited driving on occasion..I'm guessing a bad valve from the factory?? anyone else seen this at all?? __________________ "One of the ordinary modes, by which tyrants accomplish their purposes without resistance, is, by disarming the people, and making it an offense to keep arms." -- Constitutional scholar and Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story, 1840

05-26-2010, 02:36 PM	#2
FB3 Drives: 2014 Camaro 2SS RS LS3, BRM, NPP Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 411	It will be very interesting to see how this plays out. My initial guess is that you are in for a long, hard fight to get this covered by warranty. However, since it was never tuned you may have a chance. Definitely keep us posted on the proceedings. __________________ Experience is the best teacher but the tuition is very high.

05-26-2010, 02:48 PM	#4
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05-26-2010, 02:49 PM	#5
Badger Drives: 2010 ABM SS #14 of 2,027 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York Posts: 1,217	I hear ya....like I said ,stock tune in place...I don't think an exhaust system would cause a failure like that __________________ "One of the ordinary modes, by which tyrants accomplish their purposes without resistance, is, by disarming the people, and making it an offense to keep arms." -- Constitutional scholar and Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story, 1840

05-26-2010, 03:01 PM	#6
v6sonoma Drives: 2010 SS RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 8,108 View My Garage	I think the part where he was installing a new cam is gonna screw you. How do you know he didn't break it? Thats what they will say. BS or not thats how it will go down. __________________ Mods: BBK Intake, BBK LT's and High Flow Cats, Corsa Cat-back exhaust, Hurst short throw shifter, SLP skip-shift eliminator. 7/1/09 Placed order for IOM/IO int/ SS/RS 6M 9/26/09 Took delivery!

05-26-2010, 02:39 PM	#3
ron10 Drives: 2010 2SS IOM L99 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: LOUISVILLE,KY.. Posts: 7,545	i'll bet this is going to be fun.i can just see it now.good luck.

05-26-2010, 03:32 PM	#7
silverfox Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: portsmouth,va. Posts: 502 View My Garage	I bet it was an intake valve because the intake rockers are offset a bit and maybe caused that. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Va.Speed built 427 stroker LS2 Darton sleeved 427 stroker.Callies dragonslayer crankshaft. Callies I beam rods. Wiseco blower pistons. Mast cnc 12 degree big bore ls3 heads-2.2 intake &1.6 ex. 6 bolt 270cc-.750 deck. Lunati link bar lifters.T&D roller rockers.COMP-VA. Speed special cam 605 lift, 238dur. Procharger F1R @15psi. ARH headers with custom 3'' exhaust all the way.Magnaflow mufflers. QTP cutouts.Rossler built 6l80e trans. DSS 1400hp axles. Pfadt suspension.-Coilovers, sway bars,motor mounts,trailing arms. Aeromotive eliminater pump. 907rwhp.

05-26-2010, 03:53 PM	#8
Kenneth Drives: 2010 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Louisiana Posts: 21	Which engine is this L99 or LS3? Just curious.

05-26-2010, 04:13 PM	#11
busarider1971 Drives: 78 z28,82 z28 cf 339hp,10 2ss/rs Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: woodbridge, va Posts: 70	damn dude and fellow LEO...im going thru the same thing...but i just added a cai. mine was an exaust valve. the dealer is fixing it. but i dont know with all your mods they will be looking for a tune or say that it was running lean because of the LT. is yours a M6 or A6?

05-26-2010, 04:28 PM	#12
BSR-1 Drives: 17 ZL1 M6 Black Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Capo Beach, Ca Posts: 1,411 View My Garage	If you already have the guy installing a cam & he sees a broken valve just go to GM & buy a valve & have your guy replace it. can't cost that much for a valve can it? I say this because I bet if GM catches wind of all your mods they're not gonna cover it anyway, (or any thing else down the road). __________________

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