Turbos vs Superchargers - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Shadowsong · 11-06-2008, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by XanthosV6

Yeah, but even if it doesn't beat them stock, one can do a lot of work with the 4500 dollars saved over the mustang GT and the 7500 saved over the challenger R/T.
- Xanthos

Supercharger?

*GTAHVIT* · 11-06-2008, 05:28 PM

+1

headpunter · 11-06-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowsong

Supercharger?

twin turbo?

*GTAHVIT* · 11-06-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by headpunter

twin turbo?

headpunter · 11-06-2008, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gtahvit

more fuel efficient

*GTAHVIT* · 11-06-2008, 06:40 PM

more pssssssssshhhh.

Less whine.... Supercharger whine = cool

andyrew · 11-06-2008, 07:24 PM

Turbo's you can adjust boost WAY easier than superchargers...

Want more hp? Dial in more boost with a push of a button.

Not to mention if tuned properly MPG will increase.

*DGthe3* · 11-06-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by andyrew

Turbo's you can adjust boost WAY easier than superchargers...

Want more hp? Dial in more boost with a push of a button.

Not to mention if tuned properly MPG will increase.

Superchargers are more streetable and will also return better mileage when tuned properly.

SemperFi · 11-07-2008, 12:44 AM

Yeahh.. superchargers tend to be more reliable too. My turbo on the supra was a pain in the buttocks!

Dom · 11-07-2008, 12:50 AM

SC is also a bolt on while turbo is way more complicated to install. Also requires turbo headers and way more tubing. I like the no lag power of a SC.

*GTAHVIT* · 11-07-2008, 10:04 AM

I'm really not against turbos. If Mr Banks likes em that's good enough for me.

But I don't see the need for adjustable boost. If I dont' want all that boost then just don't pedal it as much.

andyrew · 11-07-2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dom

SC is also a bolt on while turbo is way more complicated to install. Also requires turbo headers and way more tubing. I like the no lag power of a SC.

In a v6 with twin turbo's, you wont see turbo lag unless your driving under 2k rpm's or you use big turbo's.

Besides, boost is just a shift a way.

Superchargers are NOT more fuel efficient than turbo's. You will always have the parasitic loss of the belt, however on the turbo when under cruise the turbo will not be causing any loss.

The reason for adjustable boost is for running a reliable street setup and then raising the boost while running higher octane fuel to run a race setup. For example, lets say the standard street 91octane file on a turbo kit for the v6 makes 450hp, the 100 octane file will be around 500hp.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 11-07-2008, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by andyrew

Superchargers are NOT more fuel efficient than turbo's. You will always have the parasitic loss of the belt, however on the turbo when under cruise the turbo will not be causing any loss.

Right...but they're very very very very close.

The new TVS (Twin Vortices Series) units from Eaton/Magnuson are nearly as efficient as an eqivilant-boost turbocharger. When tuned properly, people are actually noticing fuel-mileage increases. They've got a 160° twist on a 4-lobe "rotor" in addition to a bypas valve for low-rpm cruising (1/3 hp to spin at cruise). So all in all, the parasitic loss of the belt on these units is roughly equivilant to the parasitic loss of compressed exhaust gases in a turbo system. They really are a neat design.

*DGthe3* · 11-07-2008, 01:17 PM

as you have now noticed, the thread has been split.

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11-06-2008, 06:40 PM	#6
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11-07-2008, 12:50 AM	#10
Dom Drives: 2000 Z28 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Rockford Posts: 119	SC is also a bolt on while turbo is way more complicated to install. Also requires turbo headers and way more tubing. I like the no lag power of a SC. __________________ 2000 Z28 - current daily 1996 Camaro 3.8 - previous daily

11-07-2008, 10:04 AM	#11
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,441 View My Garage	I'm really not against turbos. If Mr Banks likes em that's good enough for me. But I don't see the need for adjustable boost. If I dont' want all that boost then just don't pedal it as much. __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

11-06-2008, 07:24 PM	#7
andyrew Drives: Audi A4 STG3, Porsche 914 v8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Modesto, ca Posts: 126 View My Garage	Turbo's you can adjust boost WAY easier than superchargers... Want more hp? Dial in more boost with a push of a button. Not to mention if tuned properly MPG will increase.

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