The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[8cd03gro]

The only reason I can see them boring it out is if they plan on using it in something else like a truck or they plan on having other big power special editions. I wish they'd quit screwin' around and bring back the ford gt so we could see a real power struggle. Ford GT vs zr1

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by Crowley

It is all hearsay until the manufacturer comes out with the specs etc. I posted it because we are living in a good time in regards to horsepower and performance

Crowely

They're obviously testing some kind of changes to the gt500. I would honestly rather they did a TT setup, but I'm biased toward turbos.

[ironpeddler]

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car...er-future_cars

Edit: sry this is a re-post. It is already in the vs. section.

[Crowley]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

They're obviously testing some kind of changes to the gt500. I would honestly rather they did a TT setup, but I'm biased toward turbos.

I hear you .. I'd LOVE to see a built 5.0 TT setup for the GT500 ...

Crowley

[DarkneSS]

1.) You can bet the ZL1 will be making over 600 crank horsepower now. Chevy isnt going to let Ford beat them on this one.

2.) 50k cars now coming stock with this power...give it maybe 5 more years and if a new sports car doesnt run low 13/13 flat stock Ill be shocked. Im talking all V6 pony cars and imports (WRX/STI/Gs etc).

[garagelogic]

Originally Posted by DarkneSS

1.) You can bet the ZL1 will be making over 600 crank horsepower now. Chevy isnt going to let Ford beat them on this one.

Well, that remains to be seen.
Getting a GT500 to 600-620HP does not require an increase in displacement, just swap from the Eaton to the TVS. I seriously doubt they plan to punch out the 5.4, but I might get surprised.

As for the ZL1, sure, GM could probably get 600HP from the LSA, or a massaged version thereof, but the question is going to be how much more will it cost for them to do so? Getting the number is relatively easy, getting it to the consumer at a price they're willing/able to pay is a whole other matter.

[C5RocksC5]

Originally Posted by Crowley

It is all hearsay until the manufacturer comes out with the specs etc. I posted it because we are living in a good time in regards to horsepower and performance

Crowely

I agree but I can't imagine a 2013 GT500 will have less than 550hp or the ZL1 hp, do you? It is even going to be a real killer if they make it lighter. I guess Ford just can't let their king pony overtaken in the pony car wars.

[ViperTomcat]

Originally Posted by pdari

I agree but I can't imagine a 2013 GT500 will have less than 550hp or the ZL1 hp, do you? It is even going to be a real killer if they make it lighter. I guess Ford just can't let their king pony overtaken in the pony car wars.

why would they?

GM wasnt content to allow the GT500 be the top billed Pony, so they brought out the ZL1

[C5RocksC5]

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

why would they?

GM wasnt content to allow the GT500 be the top billed Pony, so they brought out the ZL1

that's true. we know the Mustang is always leading the pony pack. It is just nice now and then we get to lead.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

Oh my...


*waiting for the "the ZL1 is better looking" post*

I'll bite

It IS!!! Did you see that ridiculous paint?! Who the Heck is going to order that? I liked reading about the LED stuff; I'm kind of a window-licker over LED lighting, lol.

Good catch and thanks for sharing. I've been waiting to hear more about that car

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

They're boring it out to a 5.8? Jesus. That seems unnecessary considering they can already make these power figure with the supersnake on the 5.4. . . I wonder what these cars are going to do with bolt ons. One thing's for sure, with zl1 and this hitting the streets, there are going to be some monsters running around.

Originally Posted by porcupinekiller

I don't see the 5.4 being enlarged. A stock 5.4 in the GT500 can easily make 620 HP to the rear wheels by bolting on a TVS and a tune.
http://www.vmptuning.com/store/index...415&parent=103

Hmm... I'd think they were just going with the TVS and call it good. Isn't the next generation Pony only a few years away? I guess it's not that big a deal for a hand-built motor anyways.

Originally Posted by Shardik2SS

Fully expected Ford to step up to the plate and up the HP of the GT500.

That just gives our boys some motor-vation

Originally Posted by garagelogic

Well, that remains to be seen.
Getting a GT500 to 600-620HP does not require an increase in displacement, just swap from the Eaton to the TVS. I seriously doubt they plan to punch out the 5.4, but I might get surprised.

As for the ZL1, sure, GM could probably get 600HP from the LSA, or a massaged version thereof, but the question is going to be how much more will it cost for them to do so? Getting the number is relatively easy, getting it to the consumer at a price they're willing/able to pay is a whole other matter.

I was thinking this.

I have been saying 580 this whole time, but in light of a monster like this, I really think they better up-it to 600+. LSA should handle it no problem. What was scary to me is C&D posting $60K for that thing!!! I don't want to see ZL1 go like that!!!

These are good times, friends Get 'em while the gettin's good

[thePill]

Jesus... GT500KR? With Plasma arc cylinder walls who knows how much extra beef the walls have. Give this the Boss/GT350 FR suspension and 305's and this is going to make the GT350 look slow. Remember folks, this 2013 GT500 will be out the same month as the 2012 ZL1... Build date should be 18 Jan, 2012 for the GT500/Cobra. The thing about spy shots is that they are never taken by actual spies... usually a company plant to start a media rumble.. Regardless, this will be a very, very limited car... To lessen the negetive mpg affect a single unit has on the entire fleet average... for the gas guzzler tax...

Could be a TVS 5.4
Could be a S/C 5.8
Could be a TT 5.0
Could be a GT500
Could be a GT500KR
Could be a SVT Cobra....

[radz28]

Originally Posted by thePill

Jesus... GT500KR? With Plasma arc cylinder walls who knows how much extra beef the walls have. Give this the Boss/GT350 FR suspension and 305's and this is going to make the GT350 look slow. Remember folks, this 2013 GT500 will be out the same month as the 2012 ZL1... Build date should be 18 Jan, 2012 for the GT500/Cobra. The thing about spy shots is that they are never taken by actual spies... usually a company plant to start a media rumble.. Regardless, this will be a very, very limited car... To lessen the negetive mpg affect a single unit has on the entire fleet average... for the gas guzzler tax...

Could be a TVS 5.4
Could be a S/C 5.8
Could be a TT 5.0
Could be a GT500
Could be a GT500KR
Could be a SVT Cobra....

I was waiting for you Is this the car you've been posting about?

[thePill]

I'm just gonna put this picture up again because I know Ford is all over this site.

UNLEASH THE TERMINATOR!!!

[thePill]

Originally Posted by radz28

I was waiting for you Is this the car you've been posting about?

Man, you have got to give me credit. This Yassid render dates back to Rob Jensen's 2010 GT500 concept he sketched in 2009. I ran a shameless Cobra promo on this site to see if anyone would bite way back in November. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...00#post2544800

I ran another quick promo after the ZL1 in Mid-Feb, I knew there would be alot of Ford traffic after that.. I just had to wait for the right topic..... and then... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...44#post2854444

11 days later... somebody was caught listening (Although they claim it to be a 2014 Mustang) http://blog.americanmuscle.com/hot-o...pt-car-design/

Which then spread to every popular forum based website after that starting with SVTP.. http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...g-concept.html

I will never be credited, but thats something I will have to live with... I do hope its the TT 5.0... but I need to do some research...

Talk to you guys in a couple days!!!!