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Old 09-12-2010, 04:29 PM   #1
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3.73 Gears Installed on Manual V-6

It's been discussed that the M6 V-6 share the same rear-end as the V-8 however it seems difficult to get actual verification. In fact, I called Richmond themselves and they insisted that the V-6 rears are different, thus their different applications. Keep in mind that these are the same guys that said they built the 3.55 for the V-6 since thats what their research showed V-6's wanted. Well, after discussing with RHD and others I went ahead and ordered a set of 3.73 Richmond gears from Chase at Apex-Speed (awesome customer service) and am pleased to report that it does fit. So for you M6- V-6's we now have a lot of choice of gears.

As far as the drivability, I think the "up" grade is awesome. In fact, I hardly used to use the 6th gear on the freeway here as it was always lagging but now I can cruise in 6th and still feel the power. And yes, the seat of the pants increase in torque is great. I still have to get the speedo calibrated as it is approx. 10 miles off at 60 mph.

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Old 09-12-2010, 04:51 PM   #2
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I was extremely excited when you emailed to tell me that they were in. Looks like things just got a lot more interesting for you V6 guys.

Thanks for the mention and positive feedback.
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Now if anyone can convince Richmond for 3:73 to fit the A6.
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Old 09-12-2010, 05:20 PM   #4
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I know nothing of the difference in gears. In lamens terms, what benefit does the 3.73 gears have on the V6?
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Old 09-12-2010, 05:20 PM   #5
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Man when I first glanced over this I didn't see the "manual" part. I was like OM G YES! ugh I want some 3.73's!

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Now if anyone can convince Richmond for 3:73 to fit the A6.
I would buy it in a heart beat!!!
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Old 09-12-2010, 05:22 PM   #6
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I know nothing of the difference in gears. In lamens terms, what benefit does the 3.73 gears have on the V6?
Changes the gearing of the car (obviously). Giving it more power on the low end, when you do this you sacrifice a little on the top in though. However 3.73's are a perfect balance IMO.
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Old 09-12-2010, 05:38 PM   #7
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I know nothing of the difference in gears. In lamens terms, what benefit does the 3.73 gears have on the V6?
Torque! Upgrading the factory 3.27s to the 3.73s you will realize an equivalent torque gain of approximately 15% or 40.95 rear wheel lb.-ft. of torque. This will make for some surprised Mustang owners.

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Old 09-12-2010, 06:18 PM   #8
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how much does somthing like this run?
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Old 09-12-2010, 06:18 PM   #9
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woww please get this out for the A6.. ill buy it ASAP!
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Old 09-12-2010, 06:32 PM   #10
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Now if anyone can convince Richmond for 3:73 to fit the A6.
3.73s??? 4.10s!!! Go big or go home!!!
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Old 09-12-2010, 06:34 PM   #11
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It's been discussed that the M6 V-6 share the same rear-end as the V-8 however it seems difficult to get actual verification. In fact, I called Richmond themselves and they insisted that the V-6 rears are different, thus their different applications. Keep in mind that these are the same guys that said they built the 3.55 for the V-6 since thats what their research showed V-6's wanted. Well, after discussing with RHD and others I went ahead and ordered a set of 3.73 Richmond gears from Chase at Apex-Speed (awesome customer service) and am pleased to report that it does fit. So for you M6- V-6's we now have a lot of choice of gears.

As far as the drivability, I think the "up" grade is awesome. In fact, I hardly used to use the 6th gear on the freeway here as it was always lagging but now I can cruise in 6th and still feel the power. And yes, the seat of the pants increase in torque is great. I still have to get the speedo calibrated as it is approx. 10 miles off at 60 mph.

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WOW! Very cool!!!!

How many hours labor would you guess a knowledgeable shop would charge?
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Old 09-12-2010, 06:51 PM   #12
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WOW! Very cool!!!!

How many hours labor would you guess a knowledgeable shop would charge?
5-8, depends on the shop. I've seen labor quotes as low as $250 and as high as $900. Usually its around $500.
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Old 09-12-2010, 06:52 PM   #13
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how much does somthing like this run?
We offer the 3.73s and the install kit as a package for about $775.
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hmmm wonder what this would do in terms of 0-60
Great stuff Z, your car is now a serial killer
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Old 09-12-2010, 07:01 PM   #15
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Yeah, I would so do this if there was an upgrade for the A6 V6 Camaros =) I want torque more than anything else lol..
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3.73s??? 4.10s!!! Go big or go home!!!
Said the man who let his mother drive a Turbo 350 with 4.10s.
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Old 09-12-2010, 07:12 PM   #17
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Chase, is anyone looking to fit these gears into an A6 model?
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Chase, is anyone looking to fit these gears into an A6 model?
Not that I am aware of, but I don't think this is going to work for you A6 guys. The rear end in the V6 M6 is very similar to what is in the V8 cars but the rear end in the V6 A6 is a different animal.
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Old 09-12-2010, 08:26 PM   #19
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count me in for V6 A6 3.73 gear
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Old 09-12-2010, 10:25 PM   #20
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WOW! Very cool!!!!

How many hours labor would you guess a knowledgeable shop would charge?
I got charged 8 hours but its the first 2010 for the shop that I used. I'm sure the next guy will get it done for a couple of less hours. I use him because he is a friend I trust and did gears for me before with absolutely no issues.
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Old 09-12-2010, 10:27 PM   #21
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Not that I am aware of, but I don't think this is going to work for you A6 guys. The rear end in the V6 M6 is very similar to what is in the V8 cars but the rear end in the V6 A6 is a different animal.
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Gets discouraging. Makes me want to trade in for a ss m6.It sure seems GM intended the v6 a6 to be nothing more then a commuter car. Oh wait, they did!
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Old 09-12-2010, 10:43 PM   #22
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changing gears will void the GM powertrain warranty right? man I can afford to buy new gears but can't afford to void the warranty, sucks!
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Old 09-13-2010, 02:27 AM   #23
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Im new to this "gear" business, does this void warranty?
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Old 09-13-2010, 03:43 AM   #25
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wow this is awesome news, I will definitely be getting this upgrade! Heavier cars definitely need the higher gearing this thing will feel like a v8 in the lower end now for sure, although it will probably reduce the top speed of the car. I have a 3.73 posi in my wheezy old 305 monte ss and it launches off the line a lot better than this car but then it dies off because its just a stock 305, im excited to see the 1/4 mile times on these manuals now.
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