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Old 11-25-2009, 04:18 PM   #1
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Arrow INSTALL OF BARTON SHORT THROW SHIFTER

Hi,

I just finished the install of the new Barton Short Throw. I was going to do an install step by step with pic, but there is NO need for one. The instructions with the shifter are VERY nice and clear, complete with pictures. Anyone can install this shifter with the use of basic tools. You wouldn't believe how easy it really is.

I did put the front of the car on ramps and jack stands in the rear. I do recommend unbolting the cross brace that holds the main heat shield in place along with the two 10mm nuts so that you can slide it back to give your self more room. Getting the underside boot back on might be the hardest thing to do, but even that is not to bad. Took about an hour total to do the job.

Now for the test drive..........wow! This is an unbelievable difference! I think this could be the best bang for your buck upgrades you can do on your camaro. It feels like a totally new car the way you can now speed shift and not miss a gear. The adjustable height has to be the best , thought out idea i have ever seen. I put mine about 95% down. (the lower you go the shorter the shift).That's what really sets this shifter apart from the rest. Not only are you able to put multiple types of knobs and rods, but you can custom fit it to the height that works for you. I went back with the pistol grip/adaptor kit that i got from them earlier. I'll have a video of an in-car drive soon.

Here are the pics. First pic is the only tools you need to remove and install the shifter.(also need a crescent wrench)
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Old 11-25-2009, 05:43 PM   #2
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Nice. I have been waiting on a review before buying. How is the noise?
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Old 11-25-2009, 06:51 PM   #3
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Glad the install went well, kind of scary pic with the front rt tire not further up on the ramp, looking forward to installing mine.
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Old 11-25-2009, 07:19 PM   #4
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Got mine in the mail today too! it looks like a quality piece of ART!. Im so glad I went with this piece, i have the option to use wither handle and the height adjustability is going to be awesome. Best Bang for the Buck out there!
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Old 11-25-2009, 07:21 PM   #5
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mine came but its in the office where my apt is and i wont be able to get it i hope they are there friday so i can install this weekend
but im kinda pissed-hate delivering stuff to my apt
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Old 11-25-2009, 07:26 PM   #6
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mine came but its in the office where my apt is and i wont be able to get it i hope they are there friday so i can install this weekend
but im kinda pissed-hate delivering stuff to my apt
Dont be so grumpy....at least you have a camaro to install it into! Mine wont be here until next week
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Old 11-25-2009, 07:43 PM   #7
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Nice. I have been waiting on a review before buying. How is the noise?
noise is not bad, slight rattle at a certain rpm like Dave stated, but not bad at all. the ball/polished rod is probably quieter
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Glad the install went well, kind of scary pic with the front rt tire not further up on the ramp, looking forward to installing mine.
dont worry, the rear tires were still on the ground.


just installed the second one on TLC9193's punisher, went even easier and quicker.


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Old 11-25-2009, 07:56 PM   #8
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Ride home was awesome, feels so good its enough to get you in trouble. You want to mash the gas just to hit the quick shifts.

Thanks Black10 even though you a Texans fan.
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Old 11-25-2009, 08:04 PM   #9
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check it out.



most of the rattle is my dash/interior thanks to the muffler delete
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Old 11-25-2009, 08:53 PM   #10
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Looks nice, I cant wait to get mine next week!!
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Old 11-25-2009, 10:15 PM   #11
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one more vid....

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Old 11-26-2009, 09:07 AM   #12
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HAPPY THANKSGIVING. Its awesome to see finally see our shifter out on some cars.
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Old 11-26-2009, 09:15 AM   #13
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how so low?

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noise is not bad, slight rattle at a certain rpm like Dave stated, but not bad at all. the ball/polished rod is probably quieter


dont worry, the rear tires were still on the ground.


just installed the second one on TLC9193's punisher, went even easier and quicker.


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Are you a small dude? I had to lift mine a whole lot higher to get the Hurst on. And the installation is exactally the same. My only difference is I have QTP cutouts that had to be removed first on driver side. I'm 6' 210. Maybe that's the difference.
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Old 11-26-2009, 11:49 AM   #14
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Are you a small dude? I had to lift mine a whole lot higher to get the Hurst on. And the installation is exactally the same. My only difference is I have QTP cutouts that had to be removed first on driver side. I'm 6' 210. Maybe that's the difference.
6'1" 180, im just good

second one only took about 20 mins, didnt even lower the trans mount either!

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Old 11-27-2009, 09:20 AM   #15
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I installed the shifter on turkey day...Went well... The rubber boot gave me a fit, trying to install it back on... There's not alot of room up there, For us big boys... But I got it back on. Ran through the gears... shifter did well.. Started Camaro up, Off we went...shifted through all the gears as well... I did run the rod as far as it would go down though. I will probly go back and raise the shifter rod up some, due to a better comfort leve for mel. Did have some noise around 3200 -3500 RMPS, not really that noticeable. I may try the factory nob as well to see if there's a difference with it as well
I will try to post a VID of the Barton shifter shifting gears... soon. All in all, I like the shifter... It different than the stock shifter... Will just take some time getting use to new shifter...


Thanks, Barton Ind.
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now send me my endoresment fee... LMAO...Just kiddin....
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Old 11-27-2009, 02:19 PM   #16
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New Barton Ind. Shifter

Well guys I just installed the new Barton Short throw. I love it, love it. The install was clean and neat and the throw is soooooooo short and smooth. Dave you did it. Better than others for alot less money. Thanks.
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Old 11-27-2009, 05:12 PM   #17
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HEY GUYS I HAVE 2 QUESTIONS BEFORE I BUY A SHORT THROW BECAUSE THIS WILL BE MY FIRST SHORT THROW. HOW BAD IS THE NOISE, DO THE NOISE COMES FROM THE SHIFTER SHACKING AND DO OTHER SHORT THROW MAKES NOISE ALSO? I'M GETTING READY TO PURCHASE A SHORT THROW AND I HAVE THE BARTON FOR MY FIRST CHOICE.
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HEY GUYS I HAVE 2 QUESTIONS BEFORE I BUY A SHORT THROW BECAUSE THIS WILL BE MY FIRST SHORT THROW. HOW BAD IS THE NOISE, DO THE NOISE COMES FROM THE SHIFTER SHACKING AND DO OTHER SHORT THROW MAKES NOISE ALSO? I'M GETTING READY TO PURCHASE A SHORT THROW AND I HAVE THE BARTON FOR MY FIRST CHOICE.
I have no noise from my shifter at all in any gear or rpm range. (at least that I can hear) I have read a lot of posts on this site they mostly all say the short throws are noisey. it appears that some guys are adding dyno mat under the console to dampen the noise. I have a barton short throw and would recomend it to anybody.
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Old 11-28-2009, 01:24 AM   #20
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Hrm...was thinking about Hurst. But....

I might be in. I'll let ya know by next week.
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Old 11-28-2009, 04:06 PM   #21
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Helped with the Install of JEFFNY09 today. The product is great quality......The install was not as bad as i thought except for that damn rubber boot. One word of advice is watch where everything lands......if it goes into the heatshield, it a chore to dig out. Since it wasnt my car, I didnt drive it but Jeff sways it is unbelievable!. I dod notice some rattle when his hand was on the shifter though. We instralled the pistol grip on his. I wish taht we could have adjusted the grip to sit just above the boot but couldnt figure out who to adjust it lower. Maybe we will take another stab another day.
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billyjk7-Thanks for helping jeffny09 with the install. Yeah putting the the rubber boot back on is the hardest part of the whole install.
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Old 11-28-2009, 06:42 PM   #23
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Helped with the Install of JEFFNY09 today. The product is great quality......The install was not as bad as i thought except for that damn rubber boot. One word of advice is watch where everything lands......if it goes into the heatshield, it a chore to dig out. Since it wasnt my car, I didnt drive it but Jeff sways it is unbelievable!. I dod notice some rattle when his hand was on the shifter though. We instralled the pistol grip on his. I wish taht we could have adjusted the grip to sit just above the boot but couldnt figure out who to adjust it lower. Maybe we will take another stab another day.
thanks again man

and u did figure it out!!! and i didnt twist it off this time lmao

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billyjk7-Thanks for helping jeffny09 with the install. Yeah putting the the rubber boot back on is the hardest part of the whole install.
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thanks again man

and u did figure it out!!! and i didnt twist it off this time
are you talking about screwing the boot collar up once you tighten the 4 set screws?
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I have no noise from my shifter at all in any gear or rpm range. (at least that I can hear) I have read a lot of posts on this site they mostly all say the short throws are noisey. it appears that some guys are adding dyno mat under the console to dampen the noise. I have a barton short throw and would recomend it to anybody.
Thanks for the info.
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