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Old 12-27-2009, 03:29 PM   #1
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Oil Catch Can Install and location

Anybody out there with a SS have a catch can?
if so what line did you tap into and where did you mount the can?

pics would be nice
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Old 12-27-2009, 03:39 PM   #2
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I do bought from Billet tech in Florida. Installed on passenger side front of engine. Made a threaded rod that screws in under the belt tensioner. Vented both the valve cover and the valley pan port which is just below the throttle body. Will look for a pic.
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Old 12-27-2009, 03:45 PM   #3
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What are you guys talking about? Catch cans are used in NASCAR.
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Old 12-27-2009, 03:51 PM   #4
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No catch cans are used to allow the engines to breath fresh air as well. They work by separating oil and air. LS engines are famous for breathing oil back into the intake track. Take off your intake induction hose and look inside the throttle body. Full of oil if you run the car. This can cause poor performance. By adding a catch can you are cleaning the air the car breaths out. Factory cars are made to breath from the intake track.
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Old 12-27-2009, 04:00 PM   #5
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Ok I'll check it, Car hasn't used a drop of oil though.
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Old 12-27-2009, 04:03 PM   #6
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Not really sure i can see how you tapped in from the pic?
also got your PM. if you don't mind i will take you up on your offer.. When i get it if i dont figure it out by then
I ordered the Elite Engineering version.
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Old 12-27-2009, 04:04 PM   #7
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I guess G.M. engineers don't know about this ?.
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Old 12-27-2009, 04:08 PM   #8
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No catch cans are used to allow the engines to breath fresh air as well. They work by separating oil and air. LS engines are famous for breathing oil back into the intake track. Take off your intake induction hose and look inside the throttle body. Full of oil if you run the car. This can cause poor performance. By adding a catch can you are cleaning the air the car breaths out. Factory cars are made to breath from the intake track.
interesting. is this over kill though. does it improve any mileage or hp?
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Old 12-27-2009, 04:15 PM   #9
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if you dont know and want more info read this:
http://www.corvettefever.com/techart...can/index.html
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Old 12-27-2009, 04:19 PM   #10
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how much are these how hard are they to install?
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Old 12-27-2009, 04:24 PM   #11
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Does the V6 engine needs the catch can?
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Old 12-27-2009, 04:31 PM   #12
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Oil Catch cans vary in prices. i have seen them for $50 up to $170
The elite Engineering Catch can is marketed towards Vette's so as expected the cost will be higher
adding a catch can to any LSx engine will not hurt and help you out in the long run
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Old 12-27-2009, 04:42 PM   #13
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Based on my experience with road course racing any car that is driven hard needs a catch can. Remember these cars are designed and built to meet strict emission's in many states. A car can not breath these oil fumes into the air from the factory. They must be sent back through the process and reburnt. My car is turbo charged so that increase's my crank case pressures alot and needs to be vented better than stock. I have also found that GM engineers designed these engines to be positive crank pressure all the time. But a friend on a very very popular corvette team advised me which ports to vent on these motors. Car revs quicker now thanks to the venting of the lower crank pressure.

I would be glad to explain to anyone how to do this process.
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Old 12-27-2009, 07:10 PM   #14
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So does anyone think the v6 engines are going to need this too?
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Old 12-27-2009, 07:21 PM   #15
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check your intake track out and see if you are getting oil in the intake.
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Old 12-27-2009, 07:23 PM   #16
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Based on my experience with road course racing any car that is driven hard needs a catch can. Remember these cars are designed and built to meet strict emission's in many states. A car can not breath these oil fumes into the air from the factory. They must be sent back through the process and reburnt. My car is turbo charged so that increase's my crank case pressures alot and needs to be vented better than stock. I have also found that GM engineers designed these engines to be positive crank pressure all the time. But a friend on a very very popular corvette team advised me which ports to vent on these motors. Car revs quicker now thanks to the venting of the lower crank pressure.

I would be glad to explain to anyone how to do this process.
I am interested in knowing the proper venting process.
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Old 12-27-2009, 07:34 PM   #17
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how do i instal one of these and where do i get one of these for a different price?
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Old 12-27-2009, 08:06 PM   #18
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ebay search for oil catch can for the cheapest options. Installation can best be described over the phone pm me
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Old 12-27-2009, 08:48 PM   #19
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Anybody out there with a SS have a catch can?
if so what line did you tap into and where did you mount the can?

pics would be nice
check out this thread http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread...ighlight=catch

ping Ron @ Vengeance Racing re: install as they installed mine.

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I guess G.M. engineers don't know about this ?.
I love comments like this...

Go educate yourself on PCV...the engineers DESIGNED the system that is feeding the oil vapor back into the intake...so, yeah...they know about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCV_valve

for those that 'haven't used a drop' (the LS3 takes over 8 quarts, not sure that even A QUART would show up on your uber precise dipstick ) or 'don't see any value'...here's some pics of the contents that I drained from my catch can after 2500 miles. (the container in pics is a rattle can lid)




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Old 12-28-2009, 03:00 AM   #20
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If you care about your engine, install a catch can. Remember those commercials about "oil sludge?" Catch cans significantly reduce this condition. Should be one of the first mods to your car - they are cheap, easy to install and will protect your engine over the long haul. Moroso makes a great one that is easy to empty because it uses a valve (don't have to screw the bottom half off).
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Will installin the can affect te warranty?
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so whichh one should i get - i saw elite catch can but i cant see spending 180- for it?? is there anywhere else i could purchase this for cheaper?
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Very interested in installing one. Wished Elite sold their's for cheaper cause it looks like a nice can.
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Old 12-28-2009, 07:53 AM   #24
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Every engine can benefit from a catch can, and they don't need to be blinged out either, I along with alot of other people are just running a modified seperator from home depot or lowes, works like a charm and it all came out to 19.75

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Photos and instructions coming soon. i will put a link to the thread when I complete it.
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