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Mythic · 10-03-2009, 12:05 PM

I know it would never happen.. though it would have to be the most simple plan ever for the Z/28

Take an SS. and put all the GMPP stuff on it.
Its the I wanna mod my car but, well, I have no time or ready cash so let me finance it.

1/2SS + the following.

New scoop hood
revised fron fascia (no mail slot)
hurst shifter
GFX
GMPP LS Hot Cam
GMPP Shorty headers
GMPP CAI
GMPP Catback (off road?)
GMPP Heritage grill upper/lower
GMPP Dovetail spoiler
Trans and rear end from the CTS-V (3:73 gears)
FE4 suspension (larger sway bars, tower brace, urethane bushings etc)

Then a ZL1 package that swaps in the LSA for the HP junkies

Stewcam · 10-03-2009, 04:06 PM

Doesn't matter now. The aftermarket has covered up the z\28 and zl1. No longer valid like they were in 1969. GM made a mistake by not coming out with the Z/28 up front and Lingenfelter, LMR, ADM, Hennessey and others get the proper "spoils".

99-LS1-SS · 10-03-2009, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewcam

Doesn't matter now. The aftermarket has covered up the z\28 and zl1. No longer valid like they were in 1969. GM made a mistake by not coming out with the Z/28 up front and Lingenfelter, LMR, ADM, Hennessey and others get the proper "spoils".

I'm still buying one...

*Milk 1027* · 10-03-2009, 04:12 PM

Z28 and other performance package. Not necessarily ZL1

You can quote me on that later

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35632

ShnOmac · 10-03-2009, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewcam

Doesn't matter now. The aftermarket has covered up the z\28 and zl1. No longer valid like they were in 1969.

To some people it does matter.... I am one of them. You can probably make a car better than anything GM could build from the factory... But to some of us that doesnt matter because we are about the heritage and would prefer a official GM badged performance car.

Mythic · 10-03-2009, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milk 1027

Z28 and other performance package. Not necessarily ZL1

You can quote me on that later

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35632

but its only 2.5 in. wouldn't a higher HP performance system want 2.75 or 3"?

TJ91 · 10-03-2009, 06:57 PM

If i owned a ZR1 and saw that the a Camaro got one....i would be royally pissed! But seeing as how i dont have one.....i wouldnt mind buying one with an LS9

*Milk 1027* · 10-03-2009, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mythic

but its only 2.5 in. wouldn't a higher HP performance system want 2.75 or 3"?

you seem to be confusing performance with horsepower

Mythic · 10-03-2009, 08:20 PM

First it was a question. If you actually know a reason the the 2.5" would be better for performace as an aftermarket item for this car, by all means say so. I'm always interested in learning something new about performance engineering.

Second, take the question at face value. If I have a higher HP engine do I not want a larger exhaust? i.e If I am running 500rwhp do I want a 2.5" cat-back or do I want a 3"?

Since they say stainless steel, they obviously aren't making a titanium exhaust system. So for performance it isn't by saving huge amounts of unsprung weight. In fact the biggest weight savings would be the loss of the exisitng OEM mufflers which would actually push wieght bias forward. Not alot and maybe not even significantly, but that would still be the effect

Ergo, the purpose of an different exhaust system would be to be less restrictive and A) sound better or B) allow for more HP and torque.
Since they are billing it as a Performace item the fact that it may sound awesome is secondary.

Since I can't see any other ways exhaust systems comtributes to performace, I'm still thinking that no, I meant higher HP settups.

GaryJr · 10-03-2009, 08:56 PM

Does anyone else think the Z/28 should have NO back seat? It saves on weight.....

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-03-2009, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryJr

Does anyone else think the Z/28 should have NO back seat? It saves on weight.....

No WAY!!!

The car was built for a back seat...put the seat in there...

*The_Blur* · 10-03-2009, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

No WAY!!!

The car was built for a back seat...put the seat in there...

If you want a car without a back seat, save for a Corvette. The Camaro is made for 4 seats

KoTToN · 10-04-2009, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryJr

Does anyone else think the Z/28 should have NO back seat? It saves on weight.....

they already made one like that!

camaro 4 ever · 10-04-2009, 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

ZL1 should have a LS10. Throw that whole slower than the vette thing out the window.

This is good Idea

10-03-2009, 12:05 PM	#29
Mythic Drives: '03 Monte Carlo SS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: VaBeach VA Posts: 348	I know it would never happen.. though it would have to be the most simple plan ever for the Z/28 Take an SS. and put all the GMPP stuff on it. Its the I wanna mod my car but, well, I have no time or ready cash so let me finance it. 1/2SS + the following. New scoop hood revised fron fascia (no mail slot) hurst shifter GFX GMPP LS Hot Cam GMPP Shorty headers GMPP CAI GMPP Catback (off road?) GMPP Heritage grill upper/lower GMPP Dovetail spoiler Trans and rear end from the CTS-V (3:73 gears) FE4 suspension (larger sway bars, tower brace, urethane bushings etc) Then a ZL1 package that swaps in the LSA for the HP junkies

10-03-2009, 04:12 PM	#32
Milk 1027 Camaro➎ moderator Drives: '13 BLK 1LE Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 13,567 View My Garage	Z28 and other performance package. Not necessarily ZL1 You can quote me on that later http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35632 __________________

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10-03-2009, 04:06 PM	#30
Stewcam Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Woodlands, TX Posts: 332	Doesn't matter now. The aftermarket has covered up the z\28 and zl1. No longer valid like they were in 1969. GM made a mistake by not coming out with the Z/28 up front and Lingenfelter, LMR, ADM, Hennessey and others get the proper "spoils".

10-03-2009, 06:57 PM	#35
TJ91 :chevy: Drives: 2LT/RS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 13,033	If i owned a ZR1 and saw that the a Camaro got one....i would be royally pissed! But seeing as how i dont have one.....i wouldnt mind buying one with an LS9

10-03-2009, 08:20 PM	#37
Mythic Drives: '03 Monte Carlo SS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: VaBeach VA Posts: 348	First it was a question. If you actually know a reason the the 2.5" would be better for performace as an aftermarket item for this car, by all means say so. I'm always interested in learning something new about performance engineering. Second, take the question at face value. If I have a higher HP engine do I not want a larger exhaust? i.e If I am running 500rwhp do I want a 2.5" cat-back or do I want a 3"? Since they say stainless steel, they obviously aren't making a titanium exhaust system. So for performance it isn't by saving huge amounts of unsprung weight. In fact the biggest weight savings would be the loss of the exisitng OEM mufflers which would actually push wieght bias forward. Not alot and maybe not even significantly, but that would still be the effect Ergo, the purpose of an different exhaust system would be to be less restrictive and A) sound better or B) allow for more HP and torque. Since they are billing it as a Performace item the fact that it may sound awesome is secondary. Since I can't see any other ways exhaust systems comtributes to performace, I'm still thinking that no, I meant higher HP settups.

10-03-2009, 08:56 PM	#38
GaryJr Drives: 2SS/RS #31118 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 76 View My Garage	Does anyone else think the Z/28 should have NO back seat? It saves on weight.....