Camaro VS Mustang Mega Thread

[1bad65]

Zeus, alot of people do prefer the Live Rear Axle design. It's really not this inferior, outdated technology like some people make it out to be.

And yes, I was wrong on the GT500 and Camaro SS weights. The GT500 is indeed heavier.

[All-Or-Nothing]

Originally Posted by CamaroFemme

Whoa, whoa. No one is saying he has no right to be here. I'm just saying, if you dislike the car, why ARE you here? It's fine if you do or don't like any car. I'm just wondering why you would waste your time on a forum for a car you dislike that vehemently. That sounds trollish to me. Check his posting history. It definitely doesn't sound like he's here because he's "interested in where the Camaro is going."

Seems like you need to put me on ignore and i have never posted a "vehement" dislike for the Camaro.

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

Zeus, alot of people do prefer the Live Rear Axle design. It's really not this inferior, outdated technology like some people make it out to be.

And yes, I was wrong on the GT500 and Camaro SS weights. The GT500 is indeed heavier.

[Mosher]

HHmmmmm

Well... Make sure the Teacher does not drive a Mustang imo!

[Sleestack]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

Zeus, alot of people do prefer the Live Rear Axle design. It's really not this inferior, outdated technology like some people make it out to be.

And yes, I was wrong on the GT500 and Camaro SS weights. The GT500 is indeed heavier.

The GT500 weighs 3920 lbs with the upgraded Sound System (including 4 amps), or 3850 lbs the standard sound system. Regardless, 20-60 lb difference either way is really splitting hairs. There is likely a bigger delta between the weight of 2 randomly chosen drivers........

[Georgie]

per chevy the curb weight for the SS is 3849; it is about 70lbs lighter than the current GT500

[chain1]

Originally Posted by KoTToN

2009 gt500 curb weight -3,920

2010 Camaro curb weight- 3,780

I thought we were comparing the 2010 Camaro SS to the 2010 GT500.
Atleast get your facts right before posting some childish picture:

3913 – SS w/ automatic
3860 – SS w/ manual
3924 - GT500 w/ manual

The 11 pound difference between the auto SS and the gt500 is certainly not enough to make up for 140+ hp as originally insinuated.

[Jerseyrican88]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

Thank you, All Or Nothing.

It's not rocket science here. The guy is writing a paper comparing MANY different things. He is not just comparing speed. If he was, about 99% of us would freely admit the Camaro is faster.

exactly, im just comparing the current camaro and mustang. im not talking about the history or both of them because that would be way longer than my paper has to be. i am well aware of the mustangs past and how it opened doors for others to come through. but im just talking about whats going on now between the two.

[Jerseyrican88]

Originally Posted by Lee9710

But seriously guys. I have raced many Mustangs since getting my 2010 SS. I have raced GT's and GT500's of all years except for a 2010 GT500. When I was still stock I could keep up with a GT500 pretty well for the power difference. I've read how this car blows everything out of the water but it just isn't true. A buddy of mine beat a '08 GT500 by 1/2 a car length until they got to about 100mph's and then the Stang crept back right as they got through the 1/4 mile mark at the track. I have added a CAI, LT Headers, and got a good tune and I can pull them by 2 car lengths now. The Mustang is truly an inferior car stock for stock. Sure pro driver's can get into the 11's with the GT500 but the truth is that you and me (the average guys) just can't do that. It has been a proven mid 12 second to high 12 second car even with 500hp. The Camaro has been a proven low to mid 13 sec car depending on conditions as well. I have seen this first hand racing them, the difference is not very much at all. I do not hate Mustangs by any means, I really like the GT500s alot and respect them. But to keep bashing the Camaro is crazy, it is 100% the best car of the group for now at least. A 5.0 400hp GT will still not have much of a chance if it even makes it out. I am a true racer, I have raced all kinds of drivers in all kinds of cars, you win some and you lose some, but the difference between a GT500 and a Camaro SS are not that far off at all. It's time to admit this.

exaclty it is the best of the group currently but i dont feel the gt500 should be compared to the ss only the z28 when it does come out in the future

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by meanmike

Dont forget to mention that the Camaro was'nt made for 8 year's because nobody wanted them and it's only because of the Mustang that the Camaro is here now. Or about how much trouble many people have getting GM to do warranty wotk. And yes the ne Mustang is not much to look at IMO but neither is the Camaro.

The Camaro was produced and done better than the current Mustang and that is all that matters. The only people that care about a pointless history lesson is of course the people who have their feelings hurt over which car is better than the other. I have had no problem whatsoever with my warranty work... I've brought in it twice for A/C related problems and an oil change.

Originally Posted by 1bad65

Actually the design was a huge reason it sold so well. And why Dodge started making the retro-styled Challenger. I also believe Chevy reintroduced the Camaro because of the 5th Gen Mustangs sales numbers.

As for GM competition during that span, GM was selling the GTO in the US from 2004-2006.

You honestly believe the reason why people bought the Mustangs during this time period was because it was redesigned? Just wow (the answer lies within your own statement!)

Originally Posted by All-Or-Nothing

but the sales numbers sucked.....so why was that?

Because most people don't care which is faster, they just want the better looking one, which obviously was the Mustang during this period.

Originally Posted by Lee9710

With an SS Camaro that can keep up and in most cases beat a GT500..........what on earth makes people think that a new 5.0 GT will beat an SS. Ford won't make a GT comparable in performance to the GT500. I still can't figure out why so many people see the GT500 as the top dog.

This is just a flat out lie.

[Jerseyrican88]

Originally Posted by ssump29

Why are you guys ****ing benchracing in this thread. You high-jacked his thread. No one wants to hear you two bitch and moan back and forth. The op wants reasons why the Camaro is better then the Mustang not the other way around and not talking about benchracing. If you can't give any helpful information for his cause just get the hell out of this thread before it falls all the way off the cliff and gets closed down.

Geez you guys will turn anything into a this is better because situation. Man you guys and your E-penises. get over it./rant

PS the GT500 weighs more then the SS. GT500 (3920) SS(3841)

thank you, i kinda had a feeling this would happen, thats why i said in the beginning with the start of the thread that the gt500 i feel should not be compared to the ss. only the gt

[Jerseyrican88]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

I freely admit this as well. Stock vs stock of course.

this is what im bascially trying to explain here, stock for stock. no mods, nothing at all added just straight from the factory

[Jerseyrican88]

Originally Posted by Mosher

HHmmmmm

Well... Make sure the Teacher does not drive a Mustang imo!

lol im sure, no one in the student parking lot owns one

[Sleestack]

Originally Posted by chain1

I thought we were comparing the 2010 Camaro SS to the 2010 GT500.
Atleast get your facts right before posting some childish picture:

3913 – SS w/ automatic
3860 – SS w/ manual
3924 - GT500 w/ manual
3850 - GT500 w standard sound system

The 11 pound difference between the auto SS and the gt500 is certainly not enough to make up for 140+ hp as originally insinuated.

Again, the GT500 without the upgraded sound-system is 3,850.......I am amazed how much the sound system weighs, but it does include subs, sub box, and 4 amps.