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Old 07-30-2008, 11:22 AM   #29
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I think you guys are overrating the importance of that CR. You forget, this is DI, not FI. DI can also run on much, much leaner air/fuel ratios than FI, and its because the fuel burns more evenly. Similarly, it has VVT (meaning it can retard or advance the timing up to 90 degrees to get maximum performance with whatever fuel is used). Combine the precise a/f ratio control with vvt, and I have a feeling you'll be able to run a decent amount of boost, on the stock compression ratio, and on pump gas to boot. I may be wrong - but, even if you do put too much boost for the CR, the engine will just retard the timing till it stops sensing pre-ignition. You lose some power, but probably not more than the boost is adding for you.
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Not to over-rate DI (I'd hate to see someone putting 20lbs of boost ), but
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Old 07-30-2008, 11:55 AM   #30
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the one thing is i was told that you arent supposed to run anything more them base unleaded in them because using higher octane causes more "heat" in the chamber and can damage the injectors. idk maybe caddy salesmen was talking out his ass, but i did see a sticker that said 87-octane only.
Totally talking out of his ass. Higher than recommended octane won't increase performance or efficiency in most vehicles, but it won't break anything.
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Old 07-30-2008, 06:40 PM   #31
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20 lbs of boost and you would probably be seeing more problems then just CR issues - blown internals, anyone? Nah, I plan on doing an STS remote twin turbo (gotta make use of those fender gills somehow, right?) @ 5 psi some day. I think it'll be enough to net me as much power as I want (I'm shooting for a 13 second ET) while still running 87 gas on stock internals.
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Old 07-30-2008, 07:23 PM   #32
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Lol Add a turbo and a racing sticker ( 10 extra horses) and I have to call you an american Ricer lol, just joking, cept for the turbo part, Do the DI V6 and a high proformence turbo mix
As opposed to a large loud V8 that doesn't really move much (Dodge/Ford)? That's much more American Ricer than a turbo.

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Old 07-31-2008, 06:44 PM   #33
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As opposed to a large loud V8 that doesn't really move much (Dodge/Ford)? That's much more American Ricer than a turbo.

Turbos are the ultimate power-adder, bar none.
I totally agree... if only we could convince the people in the 'Turbo vs. Supercharger' thread in the v8 section, they're all caught up on 'turbo lag'
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Old 08-01-2008, 02:24 PM   #34
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I believe I haven't looked at that thread in a long time. The only people who believe in turbo lag are ones who've never actually ridden in a modded turbo'd car before.
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Old 08-01-2008, 04:24 PM   #35
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I was actually thinking about this... you could even just loose 2 of the cats, and then its possible that it would still be legal... That's gotta free up some power right?
Yea, but if it's anything like emissions equipment on most of GM's newer cars, if you remove those cats you're going to throw a CEL. Worst case scenario the car goes into "limp mode" (as with the Cobalt's) and shuts down about half its power.
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Old 08-01-2008, 06:21 PM   #36
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Yea, but if it's anything like emissions equipment on most of GM's newer cars, if you remove those cats you're going to throw a CEL. Worst case scenario the car goes into "limp mode" (as with the Cobalt's) and shuts down about half its power.
Can't you get a tune for them? With a Mustang you can just have it ignore those sensors or get mil eliminators.
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Can't you get a tune for them? With a Mustang you can just have it ignore those sensors or get mil eliminators.
Yes, it's called an O2 simulator.
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I plan on just swapping the cats with magnaflow OEM style high-flow replacements - if I have to buy four instead of two, so be it. Then after the flowmaster mufflers, it'll just be a matter of deciding whether I want to leave the stock resonators in place, replace them with glass packs, or just delete them entirely.
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Old 08-02-2008, 12:41 AM   #39
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Yes, it's called an O2 simulator.
Whatever you call it. My point was, there are ways around it.
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Old 08-02-2008, 02:18 AM   #40
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We can hope, the v6 trim on pony cars hasn't been as popular in the aftermarket in the past. The current v6 mustang is the first car I can think of that has had an aftermarket support that rivals the v8 model.
Not too many v6 cars are putting down this kind of power, and definitely not for such a reasonable price. I think the after market companies would be foolish to ignore the v6 crowd. I know that I am going for a v6 asap, and then, if I dislike it or for whatever reason am dissatisfied with it, I'll go for the SS convertible a year or two later.
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Old 08-02-2008, 02:20 AM   #41
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I believe I haven't looked at that thread in a long time. The only people who believe in turbo lag are ones who've never actually ridden in a modded turbo'd car before.
I've had multiple turbo cars and turbo lag is a domestic fan's excuse for being closed minded.
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Old 08-02-2008, 03:00 AM   #42
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I plan on just swapping the cats with magnaflow OEM style high-flow replacements - if I have to buy four instead of two, so be it. Then after the flowmaster mufflers, it'll just be a matter of deciding whether I want to leave the stock resonators in place, replace them with glass packs, or just delete them entirely.
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Thats exactly what I was thinking, why spend over 1k on a cat-back when you can buy the parts yourself and install them, saving more then half the price. Plus if flowmasters make this V6 sound anything like previous GM V6's on flowmasters, I'm all over it, my little 3.1 sounds like a v8 at idle with my delta 40.
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