Torque Gauge in the pod?

[radz28]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

If you don't like it, don't tick that option box when you order yours. And the oil and battery gauge is gone in the G8. And the point is heritage, it was in classic Camaros and many think its a cool retro touch that helps to set the Camaro (further) apart for anything else on the road.

X2

Although I agee with the posts that it isn't necessarily useful, I think it's nice tough. Sure, there could be more useful stuff there, however, if you don't like it, look for something to replace it, IMHO.

Originally Posted by littlecammi

A car with forced induction (like the supercharged Shelby GT500) has a boost gauge, which is kind of cool. Seems like Dodge and Chevy each wanted their own cool gauge, but obviously a boost gauge didn't apply. Dodge came up with a g-meter to read g-forces during acceleration, braking, and turning. Chevrolet came up with the torque gauge (much more useful than a possible horsepower gauge, which would pretty much just have its needle mimmick the tachometer needle) but has apparently thought better of the idea and instead gone for function over what would just be a gimmick. Or perhaps testing showed that teenage drivers with dads who buy them 422hp SS Camaros would stare in awe at the boost gauge on the console in front of the shifter instead of watching the road in front of them.

Isn't there going to be a sort of multi-function gauge between the tach' and speedo'?

Originally Posted by gtahvit

Mine will need Boost and EGT guages....


forced induction.... mmmmmmmm

LMFAO!!! I totally was doing the Homer "mmm" as I was reading that. And, X2. Boost will have to top out around 15-20 psi

Originally Posted by The_Blur

The torque gauge isn't useful, but it's pretty cool. If you trust the center module, then you really won't need the other gauges.

Without performance gauges, I'm not really sold on the gauge 4-pack. They look nice, but I could get a multi-function gauge or navigation system and install it there.

What you can't do at the factory, you can do in the aftermarket.

Originally Posted by Txturbo

I would trade it all for the GM reconfigurable performance display.

That thing is pretty friggin' cool from what I've seen. It may be too distracting for me though because I'd always be staring at it instead of the road...

Originally Posted by Shifty 6

Maybe I'm not that smart, but I didn't think a trans temp gauge in a manual would be that useful. I can't imagine someone looking down long enough to do an indepth study of the gauge while driving. It should just be a glance, then process where the needles are.

Well, if you race a lot, perhaps this wouldn't be a bad idea, afterall, Z06s and ZR1s have tranny coolers, so maybe it wouldn't hurt to have that information

[The_Stache]

Heat is the #1 killer of transmissions (autos AND manuals).

Id rather have a guage that tells me when something is wrong than one that gives me information from a predetermined set table on the ECM.

Knowing how much torque you have at any given time is useless, more so when the value isn't read from a sensor reporting actual conditions.

[Grape Ape]

Originally Posted by Vash

I think it's too late to move them up. They need to make sure, and probably already have done it. To put a "check gauge" idiot light on the main center panel. The tranny temp is much more imporant after warranty and the vehicle get's older. I am not sure but if they do it like Corvette they will run (for the auto) a tranny fluid line into the radiator for some cooling. Correct me if wrong on that.

I've never seen a car with an auto that didn't do this.

Originally Posted by MLL67RSSS

Well they may have had to do away with it due to possible patent infringment. A teen and his dad came up with a torque guage for his Mustang because he was tired of the inconvenience and cost to dyno his car every time he changed something. They have been awarded a provisional patent.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/e...gue/index.html

As for the console gauges and those that think they are unusable while driving I must disagree. My '67 has them and it takes me no more time to avert my eyes down for a quick scan of them than it does to glance at the speedometer or tach.

I’m pretty sure that GM was going to pull the data that the ECM uses to calculate the injector cycle and use that to drive the gauge so they could probably get around the patent that way.

They would also have a pretty strong “prior art” defense , since the SSR had one.

[Robert91RS]

I did some browsing in the catalog and it looks like the vette and the cts both get transmission coolers on the manual. I guess we may get the same on the Camaro. Just thought that was interesting.

[Vash]

Depends on the generation and model I should of clarified that on my C4 LT1 the auto tranny cooler is integrated into the radiator, I just put a new one in recently. Also I expect GM to program it to run hot. This helps the cats operate. I'll probably look for a way to either reprogram it cooler or put a manual fan switch.

[stovt001]

Originally Posted by Robert91RS

I did some browsing in the catalog and it looks like the vette and the cts both get transmission coolers on the manual. I guess we may get the same on the Camaro. Just thought that was interesting.

I believe the SS gets coolers on both manual and auto models. So I guess the gauge is a cool way of showing that they work...

[Txturbo]

Originally Posted by Vash

I think it's too late to move them up. They need to make sure, and probably already have done it. To put a "check gauge" idiot light on the main center panel. The tranny temp is much more imporant after warranty and the vehicle get's older. I am not sure but if they do it like Corvette they will run (for the auto) a tranny fluid line into the radiator for some cooling. Correct me if wrong on that.

I've never seen an automatic car that DIDN'T have the cooler lines routed through the radiator. its pretty much a standard practice since automatics came out in the late 40s.

[fastball]

Originally Posted by diarmadhi

Heat is the #1 killer of transmissions (autos AND manuals).

In automatics, the fluid is pressurized, so there is the possibility of cooking the trans fluid. But in a stick, there's not much to get hot for the majority of production cars.

If you are racing that might be true, but I've seen and driven cars with over 200,000 miles on a manual transmission, and the fluid has never been changed, and they still shift and operate fine. All that's in the majority of manuals is old fashioned 30 weight oil just to keep things lubricated.

[nonsensez9]

Originally Posted by stovt001

Think about it this way: As they are positioned now, you clearly can't look at the gauges while the car is moving.

maybe. but it would be useful information for datalogging. Without the gauge they probably won't bother to put in the sensors.

[Shifty 6]

Originally Posted by fastball

If you are racing that might be true, but I've seen and driven cars with over 200,000 miles on a manual transmission, and the fluid has never been changed, and they still shift and operate fine. All that's in the majority of manuals is old fashioned 30 weight oil just to keep things lubricated.

I have a 225K VW and it has the same trans oil in it. I have even asked the shop a few times, they say don't worry about it.

I just didn't know you could heat up the oil in a manual that much, no one really talks about a manual trans oil issue.

[The_Stache]

Originally Posted by Shifty 6

I have a 225K VW and it has the same trans oil in it. I have even asked the shop a few times, they say don't worry about it.

I just didn't know you could heat up the oil in a manual that much, no one really talks about a manual trans oil issue.

I have "burned" one transmission myself, and know others that have. Mostly its due to the fluid itself getting to hot (running for long periods of time, or climate change), varninshing the interior of the trans, and then the gears themselves failing.

Back on topic though.. even my above "rare" case of failure.. its due to heat.. and having a sensor that tells you when something is right or wrong is better than having a guage that just feeds you info off a predetermined table.

[Shifty 6]

I agree, like I said just new information to me.