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MrIcky · 11-07-2008, 01:54 PM

Well, supercharger whine does sound cool. However the popping and snorting as you drop off the boost of a turbocharger sounds like you're at Indy. Is it wrong to like them both?

I think I like TC's that are factory installed, but if I was going to install something aftermarket I'd go with an SC.

BowtieGuy · 11-07-2008, 02:14 PM

Twin screw roots type superchargers own the market in terms of power and efficiency. Until the aftermarket comes out with a new turbo design, superchargers have the upper hand.

andyrew · 11-07-2008, 02:35 PM

I beg to differ. A GT40R could push 600hp through the 3.6L EASY or running twin GT28R's could do it as well.

Guys running really big turbo's on the Audi 1.8L engine's are making 800+hp, many guys are in the 400-600hp range, and just about everyone is in the 300-400 range (including me). Tell me a supercharger could do that.

BowtieGuy · 11-07-2008, 02:38 PM

How long does it take that big mother to kick in?

*Camaro_Corvette* · 11-07-2008, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyrew

I beg to differ. A GT40R could push 600hp through the 3.6L EASY or running twin GT28R's could do it as well.

Guys running really big turbo's on the Audi 1.8L engine's are making 800+hp, many guys are in the 400-600hp range, and just about everyone is in the 300-400 range (including me). Tell me a supercharger could do that.

How reliable are thes 600-800 HP cars though, Cause i can see them getting worked on all the freakin time.. I'm looking more for reliability than any thing else. Don't get me wrong, i want HP, but not at the expense of my time. I'm still gonna be driving my car everyday.\

EDIT: Understand that I don't know jack about this subject.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 11-07-2008, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by andyrew

Tell me a supercharger could do that.

Boost is boost.

Funny cars use roots-style blowers that are pumping out 1000s of horsepower.
Where Turbos have the upper hand is in the insane power levels, because you can add two huge turbos as opposed to one large supercharger (centrifugals don't count

)

*DGthe3* · 11-07-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by andyrew

I beg to differ. A GT40R could push 600hp through the 3.6L EASY or running twin GT28R's could do it as well.

Guys running really big turbo's on the Audi 1.8L engine's are making 800+hp, many guys are in the 400-600hp range, and just about everyone is in the 300-400 range (including me). Tell me a supercharger could do that.

Its a function of boost, nothing more. To get really high power numbers use a big supercharger and spin the heck out of it. Same as with a turbo. But will anyone actually bother to do it? No, because its easier and a bit more reliable to get 3 atm of boost out of a turbo. But it is possible.

Wm Holden · 11-07-2008, 03:07 PM

Hi guys...what's going on in here???

*DGthe3* · 11-07-2008, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Boost is boost.

Funny cars use roots-style blowers that are pumping out 1000s of horsepower.
Where Turbos have the upper hand is in the insane power levels, because you can add two huge turbos as opposed to one large supercharger (centrifugals don't count

)

Why wouldn't they? A supercharger is a forced induction device, so centrifugals count and while I'm being technical, so should turbos.

And I should add, funny cars use nitromethane. That kinda helps when making power. But the fact remains that they produce ~8000 hp and ~7000 lbft of torque. If I've done my math correctly (I probably haven't), in 1 run down the dragstrip they produce enough power to run your house for about 3 hours.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 11-07-2008, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

Why wouldn't they? A supercharger is a forced induction device, so centrifugals count and while I'm being technical, so should turbos.

I meant that in regards to doubling them up. If they counted, then the advantage that turbos have over the generic "supercharger" isn't an advantage anymore...

....which...kinda would have helped my point wouldn't it...

...I've been running on 3 hours of sleep a night for the past week, so please excuse this latest excersize in stupidity of mine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGthe3

If I've done my math correctly (I probably haven't), in 1 run down the dragstrip they produce enough power to run your house for about 3 hours.

Dang!

*radz28* · 11-07-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gtahvit

more pssssssssshhhh.

Less whine.... Supercharger whine = cool

*Camaro_Corvette* · 11-07-2008, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wm Holden

Hi guys...what's going on in here???

Thats the best looking supercharger i have ever seen!

kdbolt70 · 11-07-2008, 03:49 PM

Blower whine + throaty V8 = pure sex.

Wm Holden · 11-07-2008, 04:07 PM

11-07-2008, 03:07 PM	#22
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11-07-2008, 03:49 PM	#27
kdbolt70 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Haslett, Mi Posts: 1,287 View My Garage	Blower whine + throaty V8 = pure sex. __________________ 2SS/RS Victory Red M6 w/ Black Rallys #3305 Muffler Delete, Lloyd "SS" Floormats, K&N Aircharger, Skip Shift Eliminator, Blacked Bowties

11-07-2008, 04:07 PM	#28
Wm Holden Yes, that's my real name. Drives: 2005 LS2 600hp GTO Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ventura, ca. Posts: 770	__________________ Magnuson 112HH supercharger at 7.5 psi (Virtual 9.0 liter) 600hp 1 of 2 torrid/red int /A4/05 555r 275/40/R17's Nitto Extreme Drags 1.7 60 ft Car runs high 11's No other mods. I got the first 112HH Magnuson blower ported for a GTO. Now it appears it was also one of the last.... http://www.ribbonprinting.com http://www.personalizedawarenessribbons.com

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11-07-2008, 01:54 PM	#15
MrIcky Drives: Dodge Ram Megacab & Cobalt SS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Boise Posts: 1,536	Well, supercharger whine does sound cool. However the popping and snorting as you drop off the boost of a turbocharger sounds like you're at Indy. Is it wrong to like them both? I think I like TC's that are factory installed, but if I was going to install something aftermarket I'd go with an SC.

11-07-2008, 02:14 PM	#16
BowtieGuy Enlightened Drives: Nothing Currently Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,285	Twin screw roots type superchargers own the market in terms of power and efficiency. Until the aftermarket comes out with a new turbo design, superchargers have the upper hand.

11-07-2008, 02:35 PM	#17
andyrew Drives: Audi A4 STG3, Porsche 914 v8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Modesto, ca Posts: 126 View My Garage	I beg to differ. A GT40R could push 600hp through the 3.6L EASY or running twin GT28R's could do it as well. Guys running really big turbo's on the Audi 1.8L engine's are making 800+hp, many guys are in the 400-600hp range, and just about everyone is in the 300-400 range (including me). Tell me a supercharger could do that.

11-07-2008, 02:38 PM	#18
BowtieGuy Enlightened Drives: Nothing Currently Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,285	How long does it take that big mother to kick in?