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Old 08-14-2007, 05:56 PM   #15
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Didn't I hear that the full-scale zeta revolution has been put on hold because of possible new economy and emissions laws? The camaro is safe I know that much, along with a couple of other cars. But other projects like the new impalla are sitting in limbo. Thats what I have heard, but I can't prove any of it. But if its true then there will be only like 1/3 the sales of zetas as originally envisioned meaning camaro buyers will bear much of the cost
Dude, i dont know if you didnt hear or what, but those laws did not pass. They got Vetod by the House.

Good news for us.
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:50 PM   #16
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Dude, i dont know if you didnt hear or what, but those laws did not pass. They got Vetod by the House.

Good news for us.
Really? thats great to hear. Thanks!
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:53 PM   #17
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I thought the Laws passed, but Lutz said basically; "too bad, it's not stopped."
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:05 PM   #18
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I thought the Laws passed, but Lutz said basically; "too bad, it's not stopped."
I heard they got the Veto...hmmm, i think some investigating is in need here.

Its hard finding news about this.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:16 PM   #19
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no shit...Hell, I've been searching the web for the past hour...
You'd think it would be a bigger topic.
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:35 AM   #20
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From what I recall, it passed. BUT, there was a clause in the bill that stated the bill could be supposedly (don't remember the exact wording from CNN guy) changed or something over time if the automakers couldn't get it done. Basically, the law was..."you will have all cars manufactured by the year 2014 or whatever, getting 35 mpg's + on the road....but if you can't....that's okay."

I know...doesn't make sense. If anyone wants to do some digging, it was on CNN's headline news a while back. We also have a thread about it which is prolly in the off topic area a few pages back.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=800
my old thread and...
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1120
Dragons old thread...

Hope these help. Maybe we can find a final or recent solution?
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:23 AM   #21
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That first one helped. But...wait a minute...:eek: Nobody responded to that thread?!?!? :eek: ....Well, I shouldn't complain - I forgot I even created it.
There was an article on the Fastlane GM blog that They Scrapped Zeta completely?!? It was dated 2005, but...well, here:

This is the one I found: Again, I know it's dated March, 2005 (about the time I started really looking into cars...So, Have I missed something - Big?

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March 21, 2005

Zeta Not the End of RWD Performance

By Bob Lutz
GM Vice Chairman
Some news broke today about a reshuffling of our product plan, and I just want to clear one thing up before people get carried away.

Yes, we have canceled our plans to build rear-wheel-drive vehicles off the Zeta architecture. But that does not mean we've canceled plans to build rear-drive vehicles altogether.
We did not cancel the Zeta plans to save money, or to divert funds elsewhere that would've been used for product development.

We are simply reallocating resources (human and financial) to pull some other programs ahead and get other vehicles to market sooner. The press speculates this means we're doing it to get our next-generation large SUVs and pickups out sooner. You could see how one might reasonably come to such a conclusion.
Rest assured, we remain committed to developing RWD, premium, high-performance, affordable vehicles, perhaps even a few with a trace of nostalgia baked in.
Posted by Lutz at 4:25 PM
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Old 08-15-2007, 09:20 AM   #22
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That first one helped. But...wait a minute...:eek: Nobody responded to that thread?!?!? :eek: ....Well, I shouldn't complain - I forgot I even created it.
There was an article on the Fastlane GM blog that They Scrapped Zeta completely?!? It was dated 2005, but...well, here:

This is the one I found: Again, I know it's dated March, 2005 (about the time I started really looking into cars...So, Have I missed something - Big?
Wow, they sure changed their minds on Zeta...haha, not to worry, RWD Global Architecture is still alive and well.
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So Zeta...As of today...is still on?

I thought I knew this stuff, but apparently not.
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Old 08-15-2007, 03:27 PM   #25
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Okay, then I can sleep tonight. thanks guys!
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