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Old 07-26-2010, 03:39 PM   #43
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In my eye's you have no father. lol He's dead to you!
as for the above: Hold up, that is going way to far, even in jest. Family is too precious to even entertain such thoughts.

On the other hand, Heyomayo - you have a good attitude about all this. I agree with another comment that you should treat yourself & your car to something nice. Sorry it had to happen but glad it was not worse & you have a realistic outlook on the whole thing.
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Old 07-26-2010, 05:21 PM   #44
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Thats your Dad, these Camaros can be difficult to judge esp. when parking.
Dont let this ruin future breakfast together lifes to short.
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Old 07-29-2010, 02:09 AM   #45
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I'm reading lots of good and bad here, and I'm gonna say there's a lot I agree with! I was definitely mad at him, but he's still Dad. Whoever said "family...you can't choose them." had it spot on. All in all, it's sorted. Thanks again to everyone who shares my pain!! As a gift to cheer the both of us up, Evvy and I bought a new radar detector... That should definitely keep a big smile on my face!
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Old 07-29-2010, 02:18 AM   #46
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Thanks, guys! I just reckoned that me being angry at him wasn't gonna get my car fixed either so I just let it go. At least the car's okay now! And he owes me for sure!

You my friende now have a card to play quite a few times. You: "um, hey dad, remember when you damaged my car?"....... If you play this right, you can get your way for a while. (If you don't already, I'm the father of a 17 year old Daughter) Good luck and congrats on yours and Evvy's new radar detector!!
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Old 07-29-2010, 02:24 AM   #47
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You my friende now have a card to play quite a few times. You: "um, hey dad, remember when you damaged my car?"....... If you play this right, you can get your way for a while. (If you don't already, I'm the father of a 17 year old Daughter) Good luck and congrats on yours and Evvy's new radar detector!!
Oh, don't worry, I plan on keeping that card up my sleeve for a long while! And thank you very much. We have definitely been...enjoying it.
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Old 07-29-2010, 02:30 AM   #48
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It's a car, plain and simple. Have you ever made a mistake before?

IMO, cherish the moments you have with your dad, they don't last forever. Yea, he could have handled it a little different but in the end who cares? When he's gone, you will look at that spot and remember the times...
+1 While I don't agree with his opinion that it is your fault, let it go.
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Old 07-29-2010, 05:58 AM   #49
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Evvy, I'd be upset too, Dad or not, whether or not you love him and forgive him isn't the issue, nor the problem, neither is a few dents in your Camaro. Its the principal of the matter. Its a fine example of someone transferring responsibility and guilt to an innocent party ( Your Dad's pointing out to you, that picking the breakfast spot with high curbs, ie ) caused him to damage your ride. Whether it was careless driving, his thoughtless and arrogant actions or truly an oversight, his real problem is, that he truly believes your car meant more to you, than him to you.).

Mental Batterer's, physical abusers, molesters and wife beaters uses these mental and emotional degrading tactic's to keep their innocent victims at bay and feeling guilty.............and its further proof that history doesn't have to repeat itself.

Obviously your a reasoning person who care's deeply about your father, and thats all good. Victims of abuse are typically loyalist to the perpurtraitor. I've had the opportunity on more than one occassion as a parent these past thirty years to remind my children that their behavior and actions shouldn't be below their raising, (under the premise that their mother and I set good examples)........being accountable for their, mistakes, misdeeds and misnomers by doing the right thing, is always the right path. Having a ethical consquence isn't a bad thing.........society as a whole benefits.

I can only imagine, the embarrasing scene if your father had run over someone on the way for eats..............he'd have jumped out of your car and yelled to the victim, witnesses, bystanders, police, ie that it wasn't his fault, and that somehow the innocent victim was entirely responsible for their own death or injuries. Thank God that didn't or doesn't have to happen in your car now....................Please don't let him touch it again.

You should take great pride in knowing that you've broken the familiar cycle of traits of abusive behavior that could have been easily inherited and repeated, and one day put upon the emotional and financial shoulders of your own children or family members. Its a burden and (pains) they'll thankfully not have to live with. Your a hero worth idolizing already................ Bless You Good Daughter! ...................... Casper

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Old 07-29-2010, 06:21 AM   #50
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You would think so, right?? But no. He decided it was my fault because I picked a restaurant with a bad parking lot. I am so angry! He knows I'm in love with my car. Grrr.
It's your fault? Wow, that's a really good stretch of the situation. The only thing that would make it your fault is that you allowed him to drive it. I have three rules with my motorcycle that I also apply to my Camaro.
1. I NEVER operate anybody else'e motorcycle period.
2. I NEVER allow any body else to operate my motorcycle period.
3. Go back to rule one.
If anyone asks to drive my SS, one of us will get angry. It will either be the other person when I say NO!, or it will be me when they damage my vehicle. I would rather have the other person be the one with the anger than me.
Oh yeah, It is "NOT JUST A CAR", it is MY car! Sorry about your damage. I believe that your father should be the one who pays for what he did, not you.
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Old 07-29-2010, 07:32 AM   #51
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You should take her in to get fixed and send your dad the bill.

Not that I would ever let anyone drive my Camaro, but my dad would step up right away and make it right.

You do right by people.
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Old 07-29-2010, 06:08 PM   #52
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Interesting thread and happy your life is getting back to normal. First dent or chip on a new car seems personal, it happens to all of us at some point in time. Family and friends are more important then an auto dent.
Both my mom and dad loved cars and my brother was an auto designer who was a newbie working in the 2nd gen Camaro design studio.
At age 16 (early 1967) mom gave me her near mint 1963 Thunderbird and I loved that car as much as new Camaro owners love their cars. Early 1969, dad borrowed my 1963 and totaled it, he was OK, but it broke my heart. He gave me his near mint 1966 T-Bird. Mid 1970, dad borrowed my 1966 T-Bird, totaled it, but thankfully he was OK. So dad sent me to his golf buddy who was the sales manager at the Chevy dealer to pick out something as I was returning to college in 3 days. I was so pissed at dad I picked out new 1970 Nova SS fully optioned, only to raise his insurance rates. Loved my Nova SS until I traded for a new 1974 Buick convertible.
Decades later my dad and I would joke and laugh about these car transactions and how because of my young age rant I picked up the SS just out of anger to raise Dad’s insurance. Heck, I did not even know how to drive a floor shift and had only 3 days to learn (LOL). Drove that 1970 Nova SS home in first gear until dad taught me how to shift. Decades later my dad told me how much he enjoyed teaching me how to shift in that high powered Nova SS.
My parents would have loved the 2011 Camaro I have on order but they died many years ago. If I could only have 10 more minutes with my dad I would be happy to give him the keys to my new Camaro and let him do some body damage with a smile on my face.
It is just a car; cars get dented and wear out. Family and friends are more important. Over a life time we all make judgment mistakes, and hopefully many years from now you and your dad can joke about the first dent on your beautiful Camaro. Auto dents are like relationships…they can be repaired.
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Old 07-29-2010, 06:27 PM   #53
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:48 AM   #54
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Culpabilty & Responsibity.

Its true that dents can be repaired, cars replaced. Its as noticable that being made culpable at the hands of anothers actions and arrogant reactions as in her case (Dads), intended or not, be an entirely different matter. That sort of thoughtless uncaring response causes more permanent and emotional damage that isn't so easily over looked or forgiven for the person on the receiving end......... nor should it be. Family member or not......... Love and Respect by definition be expressed equally and be mutually benefical. Caspers .02
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:01 AM   #55
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I can't get my dad to drive mine. He doesn't want to damage it. I guess that's a good thing after reading this tread. Sounds like you were the bigger man in this case. Yes I know your a women ,but you know what I mean.
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:13 AM   #56
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While I agree that dad should own up to the mistake, it was just that, a mistake. Right now, GM is rolling a new Camaro off the line at about 1 a minute. I am pretty certain that the same cannot be said about your dad.

It's a car. Dad and you and both alive. Be happy about that.
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