Small Scratches in paint - Turtle Wax ICE etc

[thedak]

Originally Posted by efpardo

I think saying TW Ice is substandard is a bit strong.

Yeah,

I woulda said it is piss in a bottle.

[skuttduck]

Originally Posted by BrianGriffin78

They aren;t bad from Autozone. But I got some from Mothers, and now Adams I just ordered which came with a kit. so will have those to last me. I'll use the Autozone ones for my wheels and windows.

I ordered some more adams towels. I used to think "meh, it's hype" then I got two of the blue towels and I definately did notice the difference.

The blue towels were so nice not to feel the bits of microfiber stick on your skin. Not to mention the drying towel I have really does a phenominal job on the car. It gets soaking wet and can still pick up water. The cheap Armor all microfiber/waffle weave towel stops working when I dry half a wheel.

I use it on the wheels, and the chrome tips on the exhaust.

Originally Posted by thedak

Yeah,

I woulda said it is piss in a bottle.

Erick's car looks pretty good with his "piss in a bottle" and his using cheap microfiber towels.

I read someplace that sailors used to collect the urine on ships, it would break down to ammonia then be used for cleaning.

[Iron Lung Jimmy]

I use the bulk Wal Mart microfibers and, quite frankly, they work fine for me.

My car lives outside under a tree so it gets pretty dirty. It gets washed once a week, usually on Sunday, and is dried and spray detailed using Wal Mart microfibers.

I drive it to work and park in a darkish garage with a light directly overhead... perfect for examining paint. There are some random scratches visible only in a dark place under a light, but nothing remotely resembling swirls from using bad towels.

[svrds10]

Originally Posted by skuttduck

I ordered some more adams towels. I used to think "meh, it's hype" then I got two of the blue towels and I definately did notice the difference.

I completely agree. I was the same way. I said it for years that how much different could a microfiber towel really be.

I FINALLY pulled the trigger and purchased ALL of Adam's products including a couple towels of each that they carry and all I can say is WOOOW. I feel bad now for my past cars that got the Costco MF treatment.. I will NEVER use another one of those again after using a high quality MF towel. This is not an over exaggeration either. Ask ANYONE who has purchase some high quality MF towels and they will agree.

You don't have to go with Adam's towels however why wouldnt you when they are proven to work and they offer a 110% money back guarantee if your not happy. Let me put it this way... After I purchased my 1st batch of towels from them I went and ordered a bunch more. Look at it as an investment.

[efpardo]

Originally Posted by skuttduck

Erick's car looks pretty good with his "piss in a bottle" and his using cheap microfiber towels.

I read someplace that sailors used to collect the urine on ships, it would break down to ammonia then be used for cleaning.

Thank you very much - It Does look good doesn't it. I had the Junkman take a look at Camarofest and he was actually surprised that I had driven through the winter.

As an ex sailor, I can neither confirm or deny the urine collection on ships.

Thedak's car looks a bit yellow, maybe he's a closet piss bottle user.
Just Kidding - a little.

[Junkman2008]

A lot of the opinions in this thread are pretty normal as they show the various levels of expertise within the post. It also shows the varying level of acceptance as to what is acceptable when talking "perfect paint".

Perfect paint on a daily driver is hard to maintain but it is every bit of possible. Once you get it perfect, it may only stay that way until you drive it again, however, fixing it is usually a very easy thing to do. It should never take a repeated effort of the amount of work that you had to do to get your paint scratch free. Once should be all it takes, and from that point you should use quality equipment and products (these things are NOT found at Costco, Auto Zone, Pep Boys and the like).

The one thing that I always advise people to do is to take a spotlight look at the paint of someone who is giving you advice. A lot of the pictures that I see from folks who claim that their paint is perfect (although they use stuff like Turtle Wax and Costco towels), are always long shots from 10' or better. I can hid all kinds of damage in a shot like that. Here's a perfect example.

The paint on this car looks flawless:




But look what shows up when you put some light on the subject...




Here's another. This Camaro looks sweet.




Add some light and UGH!




So if I want to convince someone that some paint is flawless, I do a before shot...




... and then come back with an extreme close up of the repair (ignore the rain drops in the picture...).




If I was a noob at this and wanted to takes someone's advice on paint care, this is what I would look for in their paint. It must pass my super up close, all up in your "grill" look. If it looks flawless after all the light I put on it, then I would definitely want to hear what they had to say. Most of the time, I get guys with paint like this who claim it is flawless:




Imagine what he thought of this once I actually made it flawless:




One man's flawless can be another man's... where's the BARF smiley?

[JB @ C and L Machine]

Originally Posted by Junkman2008

A lot of the opinions in this thread are pretty normal as they show the various levels of expertise within the post. It also shows the varying level of acceptance as to what is acceptable when talking "perfect paint".

Perfect paint on a daily driver is hard to maintain but it is every bit of possible. Once you get it perfect, it may only stay that way until you drive it again, however, fixing it is usually a very easy thing to do. It should never take a repeated effort of the amount of work that you had to do to get your paint scratch free. Once should be all it takes, and from that point you should use quality equipment and products (these things are NOT found at Costco, Auto Zone, Pep Boys and the like).

The one thing that I always advise people to do is to take a spotlight look at the paint of someone who is giving you advice. A lot of the pictures that I see from folks who claim that their paint is perfect (although they use stuff like Turtle Wax and Costco towels), are always long shots from 10' or better. I can hid all kinds of damage in a shot like that. Here's a perfect example.

The paint on this car looks flawless:




But look what shows up when you put some light on the subject...




Here's another. This Camaro looks sweet.




Add some light and UGH!




So if I want to convince someone that some paint is flawless, I do a before shot...




... and then come back with an extreme close up of the repair (ignore the rain drops in the picture...).




If I was a noob at this and wanted to takes someone's advice on paint care, this is what I would look for in their paint. It must pass my super up close, all up in your "grill" look. If it looks flawless after all the light I put on it, then I would definitely want to hear what they had to say. Most of the time, I get guys with paint like this who claim it is flawless:




Imagine what he thought of this once I actually made it flawless:




One man's flawless can be another man's... where's the BARF smiley?

JM..I can tell that truck was taking care up by the piece of garbage stuck in the upper part of the door handle

[Junkman2008]

Originally Posted by JB @ C and L Machine

JM..I can tell that truck was taking care up by the piece of garbage stuck in the upper part of the door handle

You noticed that too?! I saw that after I got home and was looking at the pictures. I was like WTF?

[thedak]

I only use a couple products.

Jax Wax Liquid Carnuba
Adams Super Machine Wax
Adams Americana
Pro Car W-41 Yellow Wax

Everything else is piss in a bottle.

[mojojojo7176]

I know this is old but...JunkMan....that is an awesome job on bringing the life back into the paint. What do I need to accomplish something like that ?

[garcmol]

This...



Find his videos throughout the forum and at Adamspolishes.com. You won't be sorry!

[Junkman2008]

Originally Posted by garcmol

This...



Find his videos throughout the forum and at Adamspolishes.com. You won't be sorry!

Dude! I am so stealing this picture! That is classic! Good one!

Mojo, that post may not make sense now but after my videos, you will get the chuckle. I will do this. There are 4 video series that you need to watch in order to not only learn how to do this, but also learn how to keep this from happening to your paint in the first place. The first thing you need to learn is how to properly wash you car. Then you can learn how to fix your paint. After that, properly touching your paint is your next video series. From that point, you need to just look at some of my threads in my area at Adam's Forums. That should keep you busy for a few days.

[garcmol]

I thought you'd get a kick out of that!

[St33lsinger]

I read someplace that sailors used to collect the urine on ships, it would break down to ammonia then be used for cleaning.

ex-Navy here..we NEVER NEVER did that LOL. However we used kool-aid...no sugar added. Cleans stainless steel really good though.

I used TW Ice as well and it does just fine for me.