2011/2012 Camaro Z28 LSA Engine and Hood Design Revealed!

[steddy2112]

Originally Posted by Qdiesel

I have to disagree with this because the new C7's are coming in 2013 and along with that ,Z06 and ZR1, so I wouldn't bet on that theory. Just my two cents.

The Z06 will not come right away, and don't expect the ZR1 to make the jump.

They won't make a Camaro that out performs a Z06...unless you're talking about seating performance LMAO

[John Shields]

Some one post the VIN number so we can see if it's really a Z-28. The pictures once again say nothing other than it's a Camaro with a different engine. Could be a new up model from the SS and not even a 28 at all.

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

The local Ford dealer had a 2011 GT500 with the SVT pack for 55,450 out the door with TTL. They had it about two weeks and sure enough, it was out the door and I've seen it rolling around town.

Amazing car. My salesman buddy took me for a drive in it the morning it came in, and let me tell you..it was a shock. It was like the bottled God's fury, put it into a car and said "go at it". After we went for the drive they put it on the local performance shops dyno and it produced 489 RWHP, scary.

489 isn't scary at all... that's easily obtained in an SS right now with some mods. I want to see the Z around 650 or so at the wheels. THAT would be scary.

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Handling is something I know a bit about.

Some of those 3rd gear maneuvers at such high RPM's makes my body hurt. Shift man, SHIFT!

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by John Shields

Some one post the VIN number so we can see if it's really a Z-28. The pictures once again say nothing other than it's a Camaro with a different engine. Could be a new up model from the SS and not even a 28 at all.



489 isn't scary at all... that's easily obtained in an SS right now with some mods. I want to see the Z around 650 or so at the wheels. THAT would be scary.

why would the vin be different if it's a test mule? and how would you even know? a random designation for the engine difference? hmmmmmmmmmmm I highly doubt that.



I don't see GM selling a Z28 with 650 at the wheels. . .now modifying one to do that. . .I could see that.

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

I forget what FbodFather said, but hideaways are a no-go these days.

safety reasons prohibit them from using them.

Originally Posted by radz28

Maybe they had to relocate it; OR - electric? I gotta' look at some pics'...

hmmmm.... free hp anyone?

Originally Posted by radz28

I don't see one on the CTS-V LSA...

Edit - there it is... next to the TB :(

Originally Posted by radz28

Well - there's a tensioner for the V in that image, and I can see one from Z28, so I believe so. I'm certainly no expert though

Originally Posted by GM4lyfe

The powersteering pump is almost allways on the left side or driverside of the engine. The belt for the S/C is going to have an tensioner on it and yes its spring loaded. I don't think I've ever seen a non-springloaded tensioner on a OEM setup. In the "Z/28" picture its next to the fuse box and ECM. The S/C pulley is right next to the TB follow the belt to the left.

almost always doesnt mean always. with the LS series architecture, it is most often found on the drivers side. LT series had the pump on the pass side and the resevoir on the drivers.

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

I don't see GM selling a Z28 with 650 at the wheels. . .now modifying one to do that. . .I could see that.

maybe not at the wheels, but they never market the RWHP of vehicles. too many variables in play. but 650 reliably at the crank.... still a potent performer.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by John Shields

Some one post the VIN number so we can see if it's really a Z-28. The pictures once again say nothing other than it's a Camaro with a different engine. Could be a new up model from the SS and not even a 28 at all.

The reason why we believe its a Z28 is because it dovetails perfectly with all that we've heard about the Z28 so far.

489 isn't scary at all... that's easily obtained in an SS right now with some mods. I want to see the Z around 650 or so at the wheels. THAT would be scary.

GM won't be selling a $100,000 Z28 any time soon.

Some of those 3rd gear maneuvers at such high RPM's makes my body hurt. Shift man, SHIFT!
When I got a ride around in that car, shifting was the last thing on my mind. I was more concerned with when he was going to hit the brakes. And the next day, my body did hurt ... my neck was sore. Not sure if it was from the car or the motel pillows though.

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[BLUESMOKE69]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

why would the vin be different if it's a test mule? and how would you even know? a random designation for the engine difference? hmmmmmmmmmmm I highly doubt that.



I don't see GM selling a Z28 with 650 at the wheels. . .now modifying one to do that. . .I could see that.

I totally agree....I hope GM will give us a great starting point for future mods. 500 hp bone stock would be perfect with plenty of room to mod if someone so desires. I believe GM will do the right thing.

Personally, this HP thing is really getting out of hand!! Folks we're talking super car status for what 50Gs. As some of you mentioned, no Camaro will get more HP than a Corvette.

On one of the test mules, the plate says.......029 m 465 MICHIGAN. This is just a pure out of this world guess..."code Z/29 with 465hp". PURE 100% SPECULATION!!!!

I also noticed two other mules....028m564 plate and 028m899 plate. Imagine for all you hp junkies......"899 hp"........ I would love it GM would have let's say more than one engine choice.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by BLUESMOKE69

Personally, this HP thing is really getting out of hand!! Folks we're talking super car status for what 50Gs. As some of you mentioned, no Camaro will get more HP than a Corvette.

Well then GM had better ditch the supercharge then. Its gonna be hard to not break 430 hp

Originally Posted by BLUESMOKE69

On one of the test mules, the plate says.......029 m 465 MICHIGAN. This is just a pure out of this world
[guess..."code Z/29 with 465hp". PURE 100% SPECULATION!!!!

If they're only getting 465 hp out of a 6.2L supercharged engine, they're doing something wrong.

Its likely just a coincidence. I bet that plate has been used on other test cars (Buicks, Caddies, Pontiacs, etc) before it was affixed to that particular Camaro.

[Wvallediego]

I don't think I can afford this one........damn!

[JohnnyrSS]

I have had my 2011 for a month and a half and I am dying to mod it but I don't see a point if I will be able to put a deposit on a Z28 in 6 months. When they release the specs on the car how do you find out what date dealers will be able to take an order for build? I want to order on day 1 and then sit in agony waiting for the car to arrive

[OldJedi]

Originally Posted by JohnnyrSS

I have had my 2011 for a month and a half and I am dying to mod it but I don't see a point if I will be able to put a deposit on a Z28 in 6 months. When they release the specs on the car how do you find out what date dealers will be able to take an order for build? I want to order on day 1 and then sit in agony waiting for the car to arrive

Try to find the dealer in your area that sells the most Camaros, they should have the best chance of an allocation of a Z28. Also check with Camaro Scotty and Becky D on this site, I believe they have already started taking deposits for the Z28. Good Luck.

[FxsX24]

Originally Posted by OldJedi

Try to find the dealer in your area that sells the most Camaros, they should have the best chance of an allocation of a Z28. Also check with Camaro Scotty and Becky D on this site, I believe they have already started taking deposits for the Z28. Good Luck.

can they legally take a deposit on a non existent, non officially announced car?

[fastkevman]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

I have no idea what GM will do, but my GUESS is we are looking at a Z28 that will sticker about 50K and be close in weight to the current car. The performance will be on par with anything Ford has to offer -- until Ford responds to the new Camaro...

Chevy hasn't shown that they can play Ford's game yet.
Let's not forget Ford has never left the game and continues to lead it, they are not reactive, they are proactive.
On par doesn't cut it anymore, you either kill the GT500 or it's just a ho-hum grab at some customers $$$.

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by fastkevman

Chevy hasn't shown that they can play Ford's game yet.
Let's not forget Ford has never left the game and continues to lead it, they are not reactive, they are proactive.
On par doesn't cut it anymore, you either kill the GT500 or it's just a ho-hum grab at some customers $$$.

please explain how they continue to lead? seeing how the sales are below the camaros. . .granted not by much but still below the camaro. . .also explain how they aren't reactive. seeing how the 2010 gt and is a shame and came out after the 2010 camaro. but the 2011 gt is a clear reaction to the camaro.

camaro fanatics know that performance doesn't mean the car is leading the way. look at the 4th gens. whooped the mustang gt's rearend all the way up until recently. . .it took ford going to the 03-04 cobras (forced induction) to beat the 4th gens. and even then the regular GT was a shame. but sales showed people loved the GT more.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Deep10

Z28 still looks exactly like any other camaros...

I never knew that all other Camaros had 4 exhaust tips and holes in the hood