Cadillac ATS confirmed for production. To take on 3-series, A4, C-Class, IS, TL, etc.

[Exorace]

Saw some announcement at Atsforums that GM just announced that the ATS small to mid-sized car will be produced and it'll come in coupe, sedan, wagon, and vert. And also an ATS-V version

Anyone think this has a shot at taking on the 3-series, A4, C class and that whole competitive bunch of cars? It's such a popular segment I'd love to see Cadillac actually be competitive. It's a segment GM really has no good solid car in IMO.

I personally would love to get into an ATS-V coupe after seeing what a monster the CTS-V. Anyone think the ATS-V coupe might be about same price as a Camaro SS and any idea when it might come out? I'm close to ordering my 2011 Camaro but might weight to see the ATS-V coupe if it's close.

Here's a recent photos of the ATS testing, but can really only see the smaller wheelbase.

http://www.atsforums.com/forums/show...-Mule-Spy-Pics

[FenwickHockey65]

It's been referred to internally at GM as "the BMW killer."

Based on the new Alpha platform which will underpin the 6th gen Camaro.

ATS-V probably won't be available until 2015ish.

[Exorace]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

It's been referred to internally at GM as "the BMW killer."

Based on the new Alpha platform which will underpin the 6th gen Camaro.

ATS-V probably won't be available until 2015ish.

2015?

Is the "BMW Killer" nickname just because they hope it'll be one or based on actual tested performance results already?

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by Exorace

2015?

Is the "BMW Killer" nickname just because they hope it'll be one or based on actual tested performance results already?

I would assume it's because it's being developed specifically to beat the 3-series. As you can see from the test mule, they're currently doing chassis/suspension tweaking right now, probably some powertrain work as well.

[lil_red_v6]

theres a cts i thought with taillights exactly like that running around here its red ill snap a pic of it nextime i see it. they live down the street. ( knowin this is a test mule in these pics i dont know what the one i seen is.) just reconize the tail lights.

[Brokinarrow]

Originally Posted by lil_red_v6

theres a cts i thought with taillights exactly like that running around here its red ill snap a pic of it nextime i see it. they live down the street. ( knowin this is a test mule in these pics i dont know what the one i seen is.) just reconize the tail lights.

Well, the pics included in that link are showing a CTS body on the ATS frame... kinda funny lookin. Are there any concept drawings or anything out there for the ATS?

[Jay_LHD3]

Originally Posted by Brokinarrow

Well, the pics included in that link are showing a CTS body on the ATS frame... kinda funny lookin. Are there any concept drawings or anything out there for the ATS?

Thanks for clarifying. I too did not grasp what the OP was saying about noticing the smaller wheel base (ie being under a CTS body)!

Didn’t Cadillac make a car a few years ago to fit in the 3 series market? But, it didn’t sell.

[cab2g]

so what's Cadillac going to make to compete with the 1-series? Well, you won't have to try hard to beat its looks, that's for sure. the 1-series must've been made purposely ugly so people would want to step up to the 3-series...

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by Brokinarrow

Well, the pics included in that link are showing a CTS body on the ATS frame... kinda funny lookin. Are there any concept drawings or anything out there for the ATS?

This is a rendering done by a GMI member. It's more or less what it should be.



Engine lineup should be an all-new 2.5L I-4, 2.0T I-4, a V6, and a V8 for the V-series model.

[v6sonoma]

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Exorace

Saw some announcement at Atsforums that GM just announced that the ATS small to mid-sized car will be produced and it'll come in coupe, sedan, wagon, and vert. And also an ATS-V version

Anyone think this has a shot at taking on the 3-series, A4, C class and that whole competitive bunch of cars? It's such a popular segment I'd love to see Cadillac actually be competitive. It's a segment GM really has no good solid car in IMO.

I personally would love to get into an ATS-V coupe after seeing what a monster the CTS-V. Anyone think the ATS-V coupe might be about same price as a Camaro SS and any idea when it might come out? I'm close to ordering my 2011 Camaro but might weight to see the ATS-V coupe if it's close.

Here's a recent photos of the ATS testing, but can really only see the smaller wheelbase.

http://www.atsforums.com/forums/show...-Mule-Spy-Pics

Well, the ATS is going to be a step below the CTS, so I'd expect pricing for the V6 models to be right around where the SS is. My guess for the ATS-V, if they build one, is that it will be above 50k for a car that should perform very similarly to the Camaro SS, much like the original CTS-V and the LS2 GTO's.

[toesuf94]

I hope GM is looking forward and not just at the current model year 3-series...by the time the ATS comes out, BMW will more than likely have already leapt ahead with a new 3-series and GM will look like an also ran before they even start one up.

For instance: GM's CTS-V barely beats the current BMW M5 on the track and in a straight line...however, BMW is launching the NEW M5 already and it will most definately leave the CTS-V looking like it is stuck in park. Twin Turbo V8 with a projected 578 HP, 530 lb-ft of torque, 0-to-60 in 4.4 seconds and 188 MPH top speed. (the V-10 in the current car is 507 Horse and 390 ft lbs) .

GM USED to lead the world...now it follows. And it drives me nuts.

[HeatherR]

I can not wait to get my hands on this car!

[TheCaptain]

It looks awesome! I'll take one!