Camaro VS Mustang Mega Thread

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

No man I have never even been to a drag strip (to race that is). I have done plenty of other types of racing though...a lot of stuff I am not proud of either. I am lucky to be alive at this point in my life honestly. I am a lot smarter in this car though...

I almost went this year but the fear of breaking something stopped me.

If you can go 11's you will get me for sure. I would have to have some slicks and at least an 18 inch rim (would lie the 17 inch bogarts but WILL NOT pay that price, and no way im removing th brembos) to do that if im lucky...and I dont feel like risking a breakage at the moment.

It would still be fun to meet up etc with some people (mike and his friend or whatever) and do something...Im up for it either way. If I run ill probably just do street tires and try to get some twelves. I think I am a rather good driver...but I could be humbled at the strip...I have never done it and it could be embarrassing lol.

10's could be hard with IRS. Orange chevy was cam only when he went 11.3 at 121.5 and I am rather sure he was full weight and didnt spend a whole lot of time with that set up until he moved on. With the addition of some heads (another 30-40 hp) and some testing and tuning...tens might happen with an IRS...but it could be a costly endeavor if things start to break. Just 4.10 gears might have got him close while still cam only...you never know.He was also running a g6x3 and making about 500rwhp. This is about what ill be making with heads...im not going to run a cam that size in a daily driver.

Hopefully companies will keep on working on larger carriers for the IRS and the price will come down. Axles at this point are just a band aid and too risky for me...

In all honestly I dont track my car (well not yet anyway) so it is mostly just bragging rights at this point.

you keep quoting orange chevies time but the other two cam only camaros are trapping 115.5 so the 121mph seems more like an anomaly. With that being said the average cam only car (including the anomaly 121 run) is running 12.26@117.5, im not sure how possible 10's will be cam only @ full weight and IRS

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

I'm not sure...another member here has the same type of mods and trap speed and was laying down mid to high 11s with drag radials.

This is the thread ==> http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114730

Going from a 2.5 to 1.6 60' can be HUGE. All the trap speed calculators on the net all indicate the car should pull 11.8 as well.

Keep an eye out in the spring....I'm slapping in a set of axles and some 18" drag radials..hopefully I'll be able to post up Finally in the 11s as well

of course going from a 2.5 to a 1.6 will be huge. If your friends cobra does the same and gets a 1.6 60' also, you will be 4-6tenths faster is all i said.

p.s the guy in that thread also has aftermarket toe arms,trailing arms,bushings,pulley, PORTED INTAKE,and 160*thermostat (and most likely no catalyctic converters) on top of the mods you have. Thats probably why hes trapping 2more mph than you.

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

I tried everyway I could think of to launch the car....every single one resulted in violent wheel hop. The ultimate kicker was the wicked hop after the 1-2 shift...car needs a drag radial for sure.

I don't know how in the hell these other guys did it..

track prep plays A HUGE role on all these fast runs you see on the net.

[danhr]

i trapped 118 with cam only dyno numbers? lol

[Huggerorange73]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

of course going from a 2.5 to a 1.6 will be huge. If your friends cobra does the same and gets a 1.6 60' also, you will be 4-6tenths faster is all i said.

Got ya.....he seemed to have no issues launching....but heck yeah, if he gets himself some sticky tires he'll be able to knock his 2.0 60' down as well.

Our cars are pretty close to one another....and I'm pretty happy that a 4000 pound tank is right there with the Cobra!

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by danhr

i trapped 118 with cam only dyno numbers? lol

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[camaro guy]

only fair to blow your SS. NA camaro vs. SC cobra not fair...

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Hey MikeSS, I think you need to come get some of this. I know you have so much love for the V6's.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117591

[Huggerorange73]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

of course going from a 2.5 to a 1.6 will be huge. If your friends cobra does the same and gets a 1.6 60' also, you will be 4-6tenths faster is all i said.

p.s the guy in that thread also has aftermarket toe arms,trailing arms,bushings,pulley, PORTED INTAKE,and 160*thermostat (and most likely no catalyctic converters) on top of the mods you have. Thats probably why hes trapping 2more mph than you.



track prep plays A HUGE role on all these fast runs you see on the net.

I've got some minor plans over the winter....ported TB & intake, an axle upgrade and some nice sticky MT 18" drag radials. I've already got the trailing arms, I'm holding off on the other suspension stuff till I see how much the sticky tire helps me out.

Wish the car was lighter, but all told I'm pretty happy with what I have now! It's not the fastest car out there, but it's FUN as hell to drive on the street!

[danhr]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

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i trapped 118 mph with 464 rwhp and 425 rwtq... sae on a dynojet

not taking any sides.... just adding fuel to the flame.....

[GQ4Life]

I started reading thread and it said 2000 Cobra I was like you guys r on crack thinking it will beat a 2010 camaro SS.. then noticed title says 2003 Cobra. LS3 stock for stock I believe it is a drivers race. Highway roll if he has no mods you should be able to edge him. Keep in mind though 2003-04 cobras react incredible to mods. Doesn't take much money to up that cars power a lot.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by danhr

i trapped 118 mph with 464 rwhp and 425 rwtq... sae on a dynojet

not taking any sides.... just adding fuel to the flame.....

i dont fully understand, so you made 464rwhp WITH a cam???

just wondering, why dont you submit your time to the fast list?? more entries would only help these kinds of discussions

[danhr]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

i dont fully understand, so you made 464rwhp WITH a cam???

just wondering, why dont you submit your time to the fast list?? more entries would only help these kinds of discussions

and heads....

464/425 are easily cam only numbers though... lots of peopl have put down that and more than that cam only

figured out later that my pushrods were a little too long and i'm fairly certain I was running on the low octane table... haven't ran it since after i fixed those two issues because it blew up the 4.10's and it's been sitting since.

i never posted anything because i never got a clean run and i never got all the bugs worked out in time. that and I suck with radial tires and a manual.... i've been spoiled and need bias plys..... the best run ended up being 12.1 @ 118 with a 2.6 60'.... bogging the crap out of it, and bogging usually kills your mph... so it could of trapped higher, if my ass could drive on street tires. haha.... and thats with the wrong size pushrods and the strong possibility of me being on the low-octane table. i learned my lesson and just copied the high to the low now...

next year, provided i finally get some bogarts, you will see my times up there. If I can't afford the ips twin turbo kit, I have a cam sitting in my garage that i'm going to swap in, which is bigger than my current one and the g6x3, and am going to mill the heads more, run a .040 headgasket, and flycut the pistons.

[danhr]

to take a side though, as I don't think i know the whole arguement here (nor do i feel like reading all 8 pages of ridiculous arguing)

but I would say high 10's IS attainable n/a on a stock short block. It would just take a very aggressive cam, very nice heads that have been milled a good bit (as in stock form they leave too much compression and quench on the table), gears, and very good air/da and track prep.

should i decide to stay n/a next year... maybe that will be a goal I can shoot for....

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by danhr

to take a side though, as I don't think i know the whole arguement here (nor do i feel like reading all 8 pages of ridiculous arguing)

but I would say high 10's IS attainable n/a on a stock short block. It would just take a very aggressive cam, very nice heads that have been milled a good bit (as in stock form they leave too much compression and quench on the table), gears, and very good air/da and track prep.

should i decide to stay n/a next year... maybe that will be a goal I can shoot for....

i think its attainable on the stock shortblock. But the argument turned into the possibility of 10's at full weight with "cam only" which i think might be a bit too tall of an order,but who knows??.

is your 464rwhp with an auto or m6?