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Old 01-05-2011, 11:47 PM   #2507
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hands down daddy's money doesn't know what he's talking about, again.
I see this thread going downhill awfully fast.
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Old 01-05-2011, 11:52 PM   #2508
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it shouldn't have been posted in the first place. there's plenty of mustang vs camaro already posted up in this section. he could have read up a little.

at least now the threads entertaining.
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Old 01-05-2011, 11:53 PM   #2509
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Oh, I know what the GT500 is capable of, but it i was referring to what Motortrend said and how they made it sound like it was just a complete blow away. The Camaro suffers the same wheel spin issue, maybe not as bad as the 5.0, but you gotta know how get off the line without spinning or letting the tq managment take over and cut out to stop wheel spin.

My interest is seeing a SS modded to the same level as the GT500 and then run em through the paces and see what the differences are..... Alot ppl say thats not stock to stock, but running em before the 5.0 came back was far from fair. I say modding the Camaro with a SC and maybe some minor suspension would be equivalent to the GT500 stock.... so say its modded vs stock, but its all equivalent HP... not really any advantage one way or the either.
After reading your previous post it didn't seem like you knew what the GT500 was capable of. Do you know the GT500's engine is hand built fully forged and can handle 22 psi of boost stock vs the Camaro's engine and hypereutectic pistons that was never intended to see boost and would blow up if you ran even half the boost of what the GT500 can handle.

The Camaro will still loose because of its IRS and rear tire selection. The SRA in the Mustangs are good for 1.3 60 foots and 28x10.5's slicks right out of the box. Even if you put a 9 inch under a SS then its still at a major disadvantage because of its weight. This has already been discussed before in length in this same thread. The Camaro simply isnt built to go drag racing and will always be at a disadvantage vs the SRA Mustang.

P.S I'm guessing MT said "blown away" because of the 10mph separating the two at the end of the 1/4.

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Old 01-05-2011, 11:58 PM   #2510
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The Camaro will still loose because of its IRS and rear tire selection. The SRA in the Mustangs are good for 1.3 60 foots and 28x10.5's slicks right out of the box. Even if you put a 9 inch under a SS then its still at a major disadvantage because of its weight. This has already been discussed before in length in this same thread. The Camaro simply isnt built to go drag racing and will always be at a disadvantage vs the SRA Mustang.
Somebody better go tell them Lingenfelter boys this info...they're in the 8s.

Come on man, don't be stupid...with enough cash and effort ANY car can drag race. I know the Mustang crowd has their chest puffed out and think they all are running 11 second rides....but let's not make foolish statement.
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:17 AM   #2511
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I didn't say it couldn't drag race.

I'm serious it was not designed for racing at all, it was designed to give it a good comfy ride on the streets. I bet the Lingenfilter guys would also agree with my statement, the IRS in the Camaro was not designed for running 8's. Sure it can if you throw enough money at it but to say it was built for racing is ridiculous.

So according to you IRS is better for drag racing the SRA? I though we were past all of this, since its already been discussed and proven that the Mustang is a better drag racing platform then the Camaro due to its IRS, rear tire selection, gearing and weight. Am I missing something here?
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:11 AM   #2512
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I didn't say it couldn't drag race.

I'm serious it was not designed for racing at all, it was designed to give it a good comfy ride on the streets. I bet the Lingenfilter guys would also agree with my statement, the IRS in the Camaro was not designed for running 8's. Sure it can if you throw enough money at it but to say it was built for racing is ridiculous.

So according to you IRS is better for drag racing the SRA? I though we were past all of this, since its already been discussed and proven that the Mustang is a better drag racing platform then the Camaro due to its IRS, rear tire selection, gearing and weight. Am I missing something here?
If it wasn't "designed for racing at all," then IMO it's kinda embarrassing that it can keep up with a 5.0L! But yes, stock for stock or minimal modding the 5.0L is the better drag car. However, all of those "disadvantages" you've mentioned can/have been dealt with by the ones who want to race them.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:41 AM   #2513
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Ok then lets compare apples to apples. How about we throw the GT500 in the ring with other similarly priced stock cars... say the corvette?

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Wow you are missing the point by a mile.
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Old 01-06-2011, 03:39 AM   #2514
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Ok, once more.... the C6 vette is nothing more than a lighwight Camaro with 10 more HP.... so if we can't compare those to a GT500, what else is there.... But, there is a video on youtube of a 2010 Grand Sport vs 2010 GT500 and its not even close..... and there weren't that many changes from 2010 to 2011 on the GT500, so I'm not sure what you're watching.... The vette was almost 4 seconds faster, shorter braking distance, and better handling... sooooooooo what else?
I would call moving from an iron block to an aluminum block a pretty significant change, considering it shaved (a number that I don't feel like googling right now) off the whole car, and made it much less nose heavy.

Granted, not many changes, but you made it sound like the changes that were made are insignificant.
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^ The 2011 w/ SVT performance pack is a completely different animal then the 2010, just google it, there's 10+ improvements.
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Old 01-06-2011, 05:58 AM   #2516
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Can't wait for the z28. =)
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Old 01-06-2011, 08:13 AM   #2517
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Its all our passions!!... we drive these machines and support our brand, so its gonna be a conflict of interest!!. As long as it doesn't get personal, i say its all good!!

Soooo..... i think the 5.0 just sucks

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Old 01-06-2011, 08:22 AM   #2518
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Can't wait for the z28. =)
Me. either. After 6 years of silence, it will be nice to see GM finally roll out a direct competitor to the GT500.
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I didn't say it couldn't drag race.

I'm serious it was not designed for racing at all, it was designed to give it a good comfy ride on the streets. I bet the Lingenfilter guys would also agree with my statement, the IRS in the Camaro was not designed for running 8's. Sure it can if you throw enough money at it but to say it was built for racing is ridiculous.

So according to you IRS is better for drag racing the SRA? I though we were past all of this, since its already been discussed and proven that the Mustang is a better drag racing platform then the Camaro due to its IRS, rear tire selection, gearing and weight. Am I missing something here?
Let me be clear up what I see....If I'm in the market for a drag car, without question I'm headed to Ford to purchase a 2011 Mustang GT with an automatic. Done deal, hands down it's the CLEAR CUT best choice out of anything built currently.

There is no way in hell that IRS is better than a SRA...I never said that, so you missed nothing.

With all that being said....I spend 95% of my time driving my car on the street...that being the case, you can't go wrong with the Camaro. All the bickering is pretty pointless....buy what you like. Drive what you like, in whatever manner you intend to use it. Enjoy forums, but don't come to a Chevy one and stir shit...it's counter productive.

I'm as hard core a Chevy guy as there is, and I flat out admitted the better car for the strip is the stang. How many Ford guys have done the same during the LS1 domination period? Or even the ass whipping the 10 GT took when the Camaro hit the streets again?
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Old 01-06-2011, 08:59 AM   #2520
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Wow you are missing the point by a mile.

I think you missed out on pretty much every single post of mine before I posted this

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