Camaro VS Mustang Mega Thread

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by 28.

Yhttp://www.motortrend.com/av/roadtests/coupes/112_0910_hennessey_camaro_ford_shelby_gt500_dodge_ challenger_srt8_comparison_video/index.htmlou can't be serious.. This is what you're bringing to this discussion?

Here's that Hennessey/GT500 vid from Motortrnd.. What the f**k is wrong with the way it launched?

And I bet the Z will be closer to performance to the GT500 than to the Hennessey. just saying. The power that Hennessey is making is insane. I just dont see the Z being that powerful.. It could be, just don't see it..

Agreed. The Hennessey is making around 620+ at the crank, IIRC. BTW, wish I had the $11K on hand for the HPE550 kit lmao.

[66olds442]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

You watched that launch and thought it was a DR?

I never saw the vid he was referingn to. I was saying the only GT500 I've seen go under 12 "stock" was with DR's @ Sacramento

[BigDan]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

The 11.1 wasn't with the help of DR's. The set up used in that 11.1 vid is far more effective than what someone could do on the stock rims all around and a simple DR on the back in 19 inch.

In that 11.1 pass he is running front skinnies and a full 26 inch hoosier racing slick. Not even road legal. Tires are almost a full inch shorter than the stockers for better gearing and the wheel and tire combo probably shaved a decent amount of weight also. Rims are also a smaller diameter which further helps performance.
You watched that launch and thought it was a DR?

He ran a 11.27 @ 122mph 100% Stock on slicks 11/13/10. That run he had the stock 19" forged front's and older 17" take offs with a slick's in the rear. His Racestar's skinny 17's and rear 15's only gave him a tenth in the 1/4.

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Your telling me a supercharged SS at ~550whp could not pull it off with 26 inch hoosier slicks and skinnies?

No, it should be able to but I haven't seen anybody with enough stones to do it.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by BigDan

He ran a 11.27 @ 122mph 100% Stock on slicks 11/13/10. That run he had the stock 19" forged front's and older 17" take offs with a slick's in the rear. His Racestar's with skinnies up front only gave him a tenth in the 1/4.

Cool...I figured a lighter rim and tire combo would be worth a tenth or two. I am guessing he may get in the 10's on the current set up with some more practice from looking at all his vids.

What is the fastest time 100% stock with just a DR on the stock 19 inch rear rims?

Closest thing I could find to a stock SS with a supercharger is this....10.9 with only DR's. But this is an auto so its not really apples to apples.


GMRULZ
L99, A6
Supercharger/Whipple, LT, Exhaust, CAI, Tune, DRs
10.999 @ 125.40 MPH

Stock suspension, stock gears, stock converter, 275 nitto 555 DR's.

[porcupinekiller]

Originally Posted by 66olds442

I never saw the vid he was referingn to. I was saying the only GT500 I've seen go under 12 "stock" was with DR's @ Sacramento

2010 GT500 11.95 at 120 all stock on stock rubber.

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...est/index.html

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by porcupinekiller

2010 GT500 11.95 at 120 all stock on stock rubber.

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...est/index.html

By Evan Smith.
And from the sounds of the article it was damn near all they could do to manage it and aired the tires down to 15psi. His first attempt was a 12.6 @ 115

Chances are he has not not seen it in person or EVER will.

I thought it would have been faster than 11.95. The 5.0 has gone 12.3.....

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

By Evan Smith.
And from the sounds of the article it was damn near all they could do to manage it and aired the tires down to 15psi. His first attempt was a 12.6 @ 115

Chances are he has not not seen it in person or EVER will.

I thought it would have been faster than 11.95. The 5.0 has gone 12.3.....

Stock tires are definitely holding it back. I do hope the new Z/HP does actually have those 330s out back!

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by a_Username

Stock tires are definitely holding it back.

Definitely.

[porcupinekiller]

Originally Posted by a_Username

Stock tires are definitely holding it back. I do hope the new Z/HP does actually have those 330s out back!

I think the Z28/HP will definately be able to do a better job planting the power it has. It wouldn't suprize me if the first release test cars are automatics and so any magazine test guy should be able to rip off high 11's or better. It's gonna be a killer car!!

[BigDan]

A member on SVTP has gone 11.4 in his stock 2010.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by BigDan

A member on SVTP has gone 11.4 in his stock 2010.

Is using a racing slick and or any other drag strip oriented tire considered stock?

The 2010 has never went 11.4 on a stock tire from what I could find. I found rumors of a 11.6 but he had some suspension mods.

Evan Smith managed a 11.5 after multiple attempts and he was using ET streets.

From what I have gathered it is VERY hard to get the GT500 into the 11's with the tires they come with. Not going to happen unless you are a good driver who can power-shift on a good prep track etc.

[assasinator]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Is using a racing slick and or any other drag strip oriented tire considered stock?

The 2010 has never went 11.4 on a stock tire from what I could find. I found rumors of a 11.6 but he had some suspension mods.

Evan Smith managed a 11.5 after multiple attempts and he was using ET streets.

From what I have gathered it is VERY hard to get the GT500 into the 11's with the tires they come with. Not going to happen unless you are a good driver who can power-shift on a good prep track etc.

no its not stock, but everyone here is focusing on semantics.


the stock 2012 Z28 will be faster by a far margin over a stock 2012 GT500. when drag radials or slicks get boled on the two cars will likely be identical depending on the Z's final weight.

im not going to race mine at the strip with street tires anyway. hell im not going to race if called out with street tires. everyone is so worried about bone stock.

[wbt]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

From what I have gathered it is VERY hard to get the GT500 into the 11's with the tires they come with. Not going to happen unless you are a good driver who can power-shift on a good prep track etc.

Bingo. I guarantee Evan Smith is testing on fully prepped tracks with VHT slathered all over the starting line down to the 60' mark. I would give anything for that kind of traction/track prep.

[BigDan]

Originally Posted by wbt

Bingo. I guarantee Evan Smith is testing on fully prepped tracks with VHT slathered all over the starting line down to the 60' mark. I would give anything for that kind of traction/track prep.

He use to a few years ago and has since moved everything down to hot and humid Florida and is no longer setting record's. In fact some of his new times are so bad they don't even publish them due to the poor climate conditions.

Power shifting isn't hard, and 1.9 60 foot's arnt hard either. Most of the time DA and heat soak were the problem

Originally Posted by assasinator

the stock 2012 Z28 will be faster by a far margin over a stock 2012 GT500. when drag radials or slicks get boled on the two cars will likely be identical depending on the Z's final weight.

+1 But I think the Z will still be quicker especially if its an auto. Remember the z/28 has the better TVS supercharger vs the Shelby's old school roots. Once that happens SVT will most likely install the FRPP 650hp 2.3L TVS on all new model's.

Originally Posted by assasinator

im not going to race mine at the strip with street tires anyway. hell im not going to race if called out with street tires. everyone is so worried about bone stock.

+1 I never intended my drag set up to be used on street every day but Ive had them on since October for these same reasons + why spend hard earned money on hp mods that just go up in tire smoke.