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Blade · 03-14-2011, 02:18 PM

The article mentions it beat the Audi R8's lap time at Laguna Seca.......umm.......HOLY S&*#!!!

el ess A · 03-14-2011, 02:32 PM

As long as GM believes this, then it's all good. Because then they'll go build something even more bad azz. Which means we win once again. Car wars are great for all of us and I'm so glad they made a comeback!

SirMike · 03-14-2011, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

Opinion and a$$hole... everyone has one.

They may be right, but saying that now just shows their bias.

EXACTLY.

snizzle · 03-14-2011, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade

The article mentions it beat the Audi R8's lap time at Laguna Seca.......umm.......HOLY S&*#!!!

Wow..... maybe there's something to their claim about track performance. I know the article cites Motor Trend and Ford claims but still....

Quote:

How fast is that? Well, we compared those times against a few vehicles from our MRLS lap-time database and were astonished. With a professional racing driver behind the wheel, the 2009 BMW M3 that competed in our 2008 Best Handling competition clocked a 1:42.9. In our 2009 Best Driver's Car competition the 2010 Shelby GT500 lapped in 1:44.3 while a 2010 Audi R8 did it in 1:40.8. This puts the Boss 302 in a very elite field, and it's not the fastest Boss. According to Ford, Bomarito lapped the Boss Laguna Seca under 1 minute and 40 seconds.

Dave Coyle · 03-14-2011, 03:03 PM

Not really sure just how they are thinking, the ZL1 has A LOT MORE horsepower and torque than the BOSS, yes it does weigh a little more and the ZL1 has not even been out for them to test so for them to say what did is just plan stupid!!! Maybe they think that the ZL1 will not be able to make all that power work on the "track" course but again, they have not seen or tested on so they should not be making any statements like they did!!!!

HtownSS · 03-14-2011, 03:05 PM

Well guys you know who we are dealing with "Motortrend". I have one of the first issues that Motortrend did on the release of the Camaro, and it was mention that they were partial to the Mustang.

Of course I call and canceled my subscription, if I wanted a bias opinion I would go out and buy a Mustang magazine.

motorhead · 03-14-2011, 03:15 PM

Power is not everything on a road course. Look at the GT500. It makes 550HP, and the Boss smoked it. Did you ever think that maybe Motortrend threw out that last sentence as a challenge for Chevy. Magazines like Motortrend love the pony car wars going on right now. It helps to sell magazines.

Crowley · 03-14-2011, 03:17 PM

I would guess that they would be right ... it will be hard to compete with the BOSS in the ZL1 configuration. I doubt the 2011 GT500 would either ... ZL1 was meant to compete with the GT500 .. currently the boss has no competition in the Camaro world ...

Now straight line performance .. by by BOSS.

Crowley

*radz28* · 03-14-2011, 03:17 PM

You expect less from MustangTrend?...

2cnd chance · 03-14-2011, 03:20 PM

they're just baiting. I'm glad, it's just more motivation for GM.

*radz28* · 03-14-2011, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

they're just baiting. I'm glad, it's just more motivation for GM.

I'm not saying I don't disagree with them, but I still have problems with comparisons. Compare a factory racecar to a factory racecar; the ACR comes to mind, but that's not exactly fair either, lol.

lexlueger · 03-14-2011, 03:29 PM

The more viable comparison would be SSX or Z/28 vs boss 302. Then they can talk sh!t. Track car vs track car.

ZL1 vs GT500

Z/28 vs boss

Anything less would uncivilized

AZCamaroFan · 03-14-2011, 03:31 PM

that's a stupid thing to say.
Especially since we know the Camaro will overpower it to begin with.

*radz28* · 03-14-2011, 03:36 PM

While it will be uber-tough to overcome the mass of ZL1 (well - what I think it's going to be), I think it will at least be close. I'm not talking tenths, but I think it can get there. As long as GM can get the power down, I think ZL1 will do well. I hope they can compromise more on the NHV, and get us some really good bushings and tighten-up the suspension. I don't think many ZL1 buyers would mind a little more NVH for a lot better performance. I think the exhaust will distract them enough

03-14-2011, 02:18 PM	#85
Blade Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS BVM Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Charlotte Posts: 4,689 View My Garage	The article mentions it beat the Audi R8's lap time at Laguna Seca.......umm.......HOLY S&*#!!! __________________ Formerly owner of: 2012 2SS/RS Build Thread - Totaled by red light runner 2010 LT/RS Build Thread - Traded in for 2012 2SS 2007 Acura TSX 1992 Oldsmobile Achieva V6 1992 Mercury Sable

03-14-2011, 02:32 PM	#86
el ess A Older Than Dirt Drives: 2010 & 2013 Camaros Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Aiken, SC Posts: 4,686	As long as GM believes this, then it's all good. Because then they'll go build something even more bad azz. Which means we win once again. Car wars are great for all of us and I'm so glad they made a comeback! __________________ 2010 2SS TE, 1 of 822/2013 Camaro ZL1 vert, 1 of 54

03-14-2011, 03:03 PM	#89
Dave Coyle Drives: 2010 SS , 1970 Z-28, 2002 Avalanche Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,524 View My Garage	Not really sure just how they are thinking, the ZL1 has A LOT MORE horsepower and torque than the BOSS, yes it does weigh a little more and the ZL1 has not even been out for them to test so for them to say what did is just plan stupid!!! Maybe they think that the ZL1 will not be able to make all that power work on the "track" course but again, they have not seen or tested on so they should not be making any statements like they did!!!! __________________ IF IT'S WORTH HAVING, IT'S WORTH WAITING FOR!!!! (AND IT WAS) 434RWHP/403RWTQ Livernois Motorsports 2C Cam kit Kooks 1 7/8 LT Headers/Hi-Flo Cats/Corsa Exhaust Roto-Fab CAI / Port Intake Precission 2400/2800 Converter/3.73 AAM gears Livernois Motorsports Tune Best time: 11.97 @ 117 MPH

03-14-2011, 03:17 PM	#92
Crowley Okie doke Drives: 2012 GT500 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: McKinney Texas Posts: 3,567 View My Garage	I would guess that they would be right ... it will be hard to compete with the BOSS in the ZL1 configuration. I doubt the 2011 GT500 would either ... ZL1 was meant to compete with the GT500 .. currently the boss has no competition in the Camaro world ... Now straight line performance .. by by BOSS. Crowley __________________

03-14-2011, 03:17 PM	#93
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,795 View My Garage	You expect less from MustangTrend?... __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

03-14-2011, 03:05 PM	#90
HtownSS Drives: Silver 2SS, 68 Firebird 400,70 vett Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: clear lake Posts: 240	Well guys you know who we are dealing with "Motortrend". I have one of the first issues that Motortrend did on the release of the Camaro, and it was mention that they were partial to the Mustang. Of course I call and canceled my subscription, if I wanted a bias opinion I would go out and buy a Mustang magazine.

03-14-2011, 03:15 PM	#91
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,849	Power is not everything on a road course. Look at the GT500. It makes 550HP, and the Boss smoked it. Did you ever think that maybe Motortrend threw out that last sentence as a challenge for Chevy. Magazines like Motortrend love the pony car wars going on right now. It helps to sell magazines.

03-14-2011, 03:20 PM	#94
2cnd chance Too Many Great Choices Drives: Grand Sport/Z07 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: A Mountain Road Posts: 7,454	they're just baiting. I'm glad, it's just more motivation for GM.

03-14-2011, 03:29 PM	#96
lexlueger Drives: V10 BMW M5, Supercharged 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Charlotte NC /Brooklyn NY Posts: 2,305	The more viable comparison would be SSX or Z/28 vs boss 302. Then they can talk sh!t. Track car vs track car. ZL1 vs GT500 Z/28 vs boss Anything less would uncivilized __________________ MAST 416 STROKER: STAGE 3 TVS 2300 CUSTOM CAM TPIS 102 TB IW 8 RIB PULLEY W/ OD COG REARS NX EXPRESS/NANO KIT KDI HEAT EXCHANGER/ROTOFAB RESERVOIR CIRCLE D 2800 TC/FLEX PLATE/ADM TRANS COOLER DSS DRIVESHAFT/1400 HP AXLES EATON TRUETRAC -LPE 3.27 GEARS DYNATECH HEADERS/MAGNAFLOW EXHAUST SQUASH RETURN STYLE FS ID 850's E85/ FLEXFUEL BMR/EIBACH SUSPENSION KILL MODE, ON.

03-14-2011, 03:31 PM	#97
AZCamaroFan Camaro6 2016-2018 Drives: sometimes Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 18,468	that's a stupid thing to say. Especially since we know the Camaro will overpower it to begin with. __________________

03-14-2011, 03:36 PM	#98
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,795 View My Garage	While it will be uber-tough to overcome the mass of ZL1 (well - what I think it's going to be), I think it will at least be close. I'm not talking tenths, but I think it can get there. As long as GM can get the power down, I think ZL1 will do well. I hope they can compromise more on the NHV, and get us some really good bushings and tighten-up the suspension. I don't think many ZL1 buyers would mind a little more NVH for a lot better performance. I think the exhaust will distract them enough __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

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