More Challenger Information (drivetrain)

[stovt001]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Are you sure?

5.7 LS6 => 7.0 LS7
6.0 LS2 => 6.2 LS3

just picking on you

Yes, but LS7 will be replaced by S/C 6.2s. As fuel standards tighten making more power with more displacement just isn't going to cut it. Look how the Mustang's huge V6 makes less power than most modern 3.5s or 3.6s

[2010_5thgen]

so the new challanger is only goign to have 245 as the widest tire width???? even with a 400+ hp 6.1??? i like the fact they are putting 20's on. which lees me to think the camaro will, but i recomend chevy doing a little more wide of a tire than a 245.

[SilverTurtle]

I'd put money on the 18"f, 19"r tire wheel combo on the Camaro... GM already has the that wheel size in production on the C6, so it is a natural crossover for the 5th gen


Chrysler is probably putting that size tire on the Challenger because its cheaper... and they know the aftermarket will be going nuts with it after the car comes out... remember when the 4th gen Z28 had, as the biggest tire you could get, a 16" wheel with 245/50-16s? you had to go to the SS to get a bigger wheel/tire... GM knew that they could achieve a good balance of stability and mpg with the 16" wheels, so why go any farther? I'm betting Chrysler is doing the same with the Challenger

[LSxcellent]

Anyone else find it surprising that they are going to make a V6 'volume' version of this car??? Isn't it supposed to be extra-special-rare? I thought this was going to be a collectors item? I don't see ANYTHING collectable about it now.?

AND it looks wicked heavy.

~LSx

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by LSxcellent

Anyone else find it surprising that they are going to make a V6 'volume' version of this car??? Isn't it supposed to be extra-special-rare? I thought this was going to be a collectors item? I don't see ANYTHING collectable about it now.?

AND it looks wicked heavy.

~LSx

Yes

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Wow, the V6 is a surprise. I thought it was only going to be a low volume V8. I guess they can expand the line if they are killing the Magnum

[Mr. Wyndham]

I think initially it was supposed to be a low-volume car. But then I thought I read somewhere that plans changed, and didn't Cerebus kinda over-ride the limited-run thing when they came in?

Personally, I don't think Cerebus is gonna keep the Challenger around for very long. Unfortunately, I don't believe it's a big loss, because it's just another rendition of the Charger/300 chassis.

[Rock36]

Ha! That confirms my suspicions too.

The normal V8 is only the 5.7L with 340hp, I posted that somewhere else.

The performance of this thing won't be too far off from the Charger....from V6 all the way to SRT-8. They will be very similar. Well they gave the challenger some very steep rear end gears for the the 6 speeds....that will help with the accel over the Chargers.

That rumored 6.4L will be saved for later I think.

These companies aren't going to lay all their cards on the table at once.

[2010_5thgen]

Originally Posted by SilverTurtle

I'd put money on the 18"f, 19"r tire wheel combo on the Camaro... GM already has the that wheel size in production on the C6, so it is a natural crossover for the 5th gen


Chrysler is probably putting that size tire on the Challenger because its cheaper... and they know the aftermarket will be going nuts with it after the car comes out... remember when the 4th gen Z28 had, as the biggest tire you could get, a 16" wheel with 245/50-16s? you had to go to the SS to get a bigger wheel/tire... GM knew that they could achieve a good balance of stability and mpg with the 16" wheels, so why go any farther? I'm betting Chrysler is doing the same with the Challenger

actually ig you look at the camoflauge camaro pic, the rear wheels actually look like 20's.the size of the rim to the size of the side wall makes it look very large. and it fills the gap in the fenders very well.

[The_Stache]

Updating.. following is the most comlete list of items for the challenger currently available. Interesting items in Italics

Enjoy!

2008.75 Dodge Challenger SRT8 Special Edition

MSRP Including Destination: $37,995 (plus $2,100 GG tax) Total= $40,095

Interior: Dark Slate Gray

Exterior colors:

BRIGHT SILVER METALLIC CLEAR COAT
BRILLIANT BLACK CRYSTAL PEARL COAT
HEMI ORANGE PEARL COAT

Optional Features:

245/45ZR20 255/45ZR20 PERFORMANCE TIRES $50
MYGIG MULTIMEDIA INFOTAINMENT SYSTEM W/NAVIGATION $890
POWER SUNROOF $950


Standard Features

Drivetrain:

6.1L SRT HEMI V8 ENGINE
5-SPEED W5A580 AUTO TRANSMISSION W/AUTOSTICK
ANTI-SPIN DIFFERENTIAL REAR AXLE (DSA)
3.06 AXLE RATIO (DMP)
160 AMP ALTERNATOR (BAB)
20X9.0 ALUMINUM SRT DESIGN WHEELS (WP3)
245/45ZR20 AS PERFORMANCE TIRES GOODYEAR (TR9)
625 AMP MAINTENANCE FREE BATTERY (BC6)
DUAL REAR EXHAUST (NER)
DUAL BRIGHT EXHAUST TIPS (NEL)
PERFORMANCE TUNED STEERING (SBX)
SEVERE DUTY II ENGINE COOLING (XDL)
SRT TRACK EXPERIENCE (XPY)

Interior:

12V CENTER CONSOLE POWER OUTLET (JKW)
180 MPH PRIMARY SPEEDOMETER (JCG)
AIR CONDITIONING (HAC)
BASE HEADLINER MODULE (CHK)
CARGO COMPARTMENT DRESS-UP (CKM)
CELL PHONE STORAGE (CVK)
FLR CONSOLE W/FORE/AFT SLIDE ARMREST (CM6)
FRONT READING/MAP LAMPS (LBG)
FRONT/REAR CLIMATE CONTROL OUTLETS (XGA)
HEATED FRONT SEATS (JPM)
ILLUMINATED ENTRY (LAC)
INSTRUMENT CLUSTER W/DISPLAY SCREEN (JAT)
INSTRUMENT CLUSTER WHITE FACE W/TACH (JA9)
KEYLESS ENTRY (GXR)
KEYLESS GO (GX4)
LEATHER WRAPPED SHIFT KNOB (CVB)
LEATHER WRAPPED STEERING WHEEL (SCC)
LUXURY FRONT & REAR FLOOR MATS (CLZ)
MANUAL DRIVER & PASS LUMBAR ADJUST (CDU)
NON ADJUSTABLE PEDALS (XA8)
PASSENGER ASSIST HANDLE (CSP)
POWER 6-WAY DRIVER SEAT (JPS)
POWER ACCESSORY DELAY (JKY)
POWER TRUNKLID RELEASE (JPC)
PREM LEATHER TRIMMED BUCKET SEATS (*UL)
PWR WINDOWS, FRONT 1-TOUCH DOWN (JPY)
REAR 60/40 FOLDING SEAT (CFN)
REAR COURTESY LAMPS (LBW)
RR ARMREST W/CUPHOLDER SEAT (CSN)
RR VIEW AUTO DIM MIRROR W/MICROPHONE (GN5)
SATIN SILVER LOCK KNOBS (GXL)
SECURITY ALARM (LSA)
SENTRY KEY THEFT DETERRENT SYSTEM (GXX)
SPEED CONTROL (NHM)
SPEED SENSITIVE POWER LOCKS (JPH)
SUN VISORS W/ILLUM VANITY MIRRORS (GNC)
TEMPERATURE & COMPASS GAUGE (JFJ)
TILT/TELESCOPE STEERING COLUMN (SUD)
TIP START (XBN)
TRAVELER/MINI TRIP COMPUTER (LET)
TRUNK LAMP (LDC)
UNIVERSAL GARAGE DOOR OPENER (XGD)
VAR INTERMITTENT WINDSHIELD WIPERS (JHA)
VEHICLE INFORMATION CENTER (LAZ)

Exterior:

19 GALLON FUEL TANK (NFK)
6.1L BADGE (MGE)
AUTOMATIC HEADLAMPS (LMG)
BODY COLOR DOOR HANDLES (MNK)
BODY COLOR EXTERIOR MIRRORS (LEP)
BODY COLOR FASCIAS (MLA)
BRIGHT FUEL FILLER DOOR (XJE)
CHALLENGER BADGE (MGH)
DELETE SPARE TIRE (TBF)
DODGE I.D. BADGE (MUD)
DUAL NOTE ELECTRIC HORNS (JJB)
FOG LAMPS (LNJ)
FRONT & REAR SOLAR CONTROL GLASS (GBC)
FRONT LICENSE PLATE BRACKET (MDA)
FUNCTIONAL HOOD SCOOP (MGB)
HIGH INTENSITY DISCHARGE HEADLAMPS (LMP)
HIGH PERFORM SUSPENSION (SDX)
HOOD STRIPE (MMB)
INTEGRATED IN REAR WINDOW ANTENNA (RDL)
POWER HEATED MIRRORS, FOLD-AWAY (GUK)
RAM'S HEAD BADGE (MGA)
REAR SPOILER (MXR)
SATIN CHROME GRILLE (MFH)
SOLAR CONTROL GLASS (GAM)
SPECIAL EDITION BADGE (MZ7)
SRT8 BADGE (MTV)
TIRE SERVICE KIT (XFP)

Safety:

ADVANCED MULTISTAGE FRONT AIR BAGS (CG3)
ALL SPEED TRACTION CONTROL (BNP)
ANTI-LOCK 4-WHEEL DISC PERF BRAKES (BR4)
BRAKE ASSIST (BGE)
BRAKE/PARK INTERLOCK (XSL)
CENTER REAR 3-POINT SEAT BELT (CG6)
CHILD SEAT UPPER TETHER ANCHORAGES (CF4)
CHMSL LAMP (LPS)
ELECTRONIC STABILITY PROGRAM (BNB)
REAR WINDOW DEFROSTER (GFA)
SUPP. SIDE CURTAIN FRT/RR AIR BAGS (CJ2)
SUPPLEMENTAL SIDE AIR BAGS (CGS)
TIRE PRESSURE MONITORING DISPLAY (XGM)

Audio/Telematics:

AM/FM 6 DISC DVD MP3 RADIO (REQ)
13 SPKRS KICKER SRT HIGH PERF AUDIO (RC5)
200 WATT KICKER SRT SUBWOOFER (RFF)
322 WATT KICKER SRT AMPLIFIER (RFC)
STEERING WHEEL MOUNTED AUDIO CTRLS (RDZ)
SIRIUS SATELLITE RADIO WITH ONE YEAR SUB (RSC)
UCONNECT HANDS-FREE COMMUNICATION (RSP)

[Mr. Wyndham]

"HIGH INTENSITY DISCHARGE HEADLAMPS (LMP)"
So...we could potentially see the concepts headlights...

[TAG UR IT]

Oh, man that list is good. Reason being, GM will undoubtedly read what Dodge is offering to compare for the Camaro. If GM wants to be one step above everyone else, it'll look like I'm finally going to be getting some of the up to date options for my regular every day driver.

I'm talking about simple things that could be added which would give it that little extra: universal garage door openers, compass, heated seats, hands free phone, folding rear seat??? This list is really good for the Challenger. Hell, even though it's going to be heavier than crud, I'd buy one if I had the cash. That gets me excited!

[The_Stache]

And yet another update - teaser shots of the production model...





Source


Bah more info... already pre-sold over 6k cars.. some will get 2009 models without the numbered plaque!! Overpaid for a production car again!!

Apparently people really want to buy the Dodge Challenger. So much so that 4,300 people put down deposits when Dodge opened ordering on Monday. A total of 6,000 orders have come in since then. If Dodge sticks to its claim of only producing 5,000 Challengers for 2008, then several of those orders will have to wait a year before taking delivery. All of the Challengers ordered will come in the SRT8 variant sporting a 6.1-liter Hemi V8 and a five-speed automatic transmission. Three colors are available - black, silver, and HEMI orange, the latter of which was the color of choice for more than half the orders. Deliveries will start in the Spring of 2008.

While the production version will be officially introduced at the Chicago Auto Show in February, it was also hinted that we will see some real "eye candy" later this week.

Source

[Mr. Wyndham]

This is probably the best news I've heard in a while. Over 10,000 people have already put orders in within months. And these are only the people with "large quantities" of money (presumably). Ready to shell it all out for the overpriced, sure-to-be gouged Challenger - that really isn't going to be all that 'fun' to drive, when compared to the Camaro.....10,000 people!!! At least we know that this market is still alive, yes?

Imagine a cheaper, better-looking, and more 'fun' Camaro!

[Dan]

LOL I guess they figured that had to specifically tell mopar fans that fuel goes in that door.