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Old 05-20-2011, 01:22 PM   #1247
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I find the complaining on here annoying as well. The frustration is understandable since everybody is so excited, but it seems to me like most of the people complaining don't have experience with engineering or creating anything technical that hasn't been done before.

I see this kind of thing happen all the time with programming projects, etc. People bug the crap out of you to provide dates so much that you end up folding and throwing a best guess out there. Then, they get upset when you can't meet the date you predicted. Unfortunately when you are doing something that is really new, it's very hard to predict how long it will take. Things always come up and designs need to change, even if you've built in some slack time. Trust me, it's better to get a quality product then to get one that is half-assed (Windows Vista anybody?).

Just try to remember, if it wasn't hard then everyone would be doing it and they could tell you exactly when it would ship. But nobody would be excited then.
The problem is on THEY WERE TAKING PEOPLE'S MONEY! Ok, so it wasn't Vararam that was taking the money but one of their distributors... but it still reflect poorly on the Vararam... should have policies in place with their distributors...

Don't buy the cave in and throw a date out there... all you do is end up with a bunch of pissed off customers when you miss your dates...
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Old 05-20-2011, 02:40 PM   #1248
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The problem is on THEY WERE TAKING PEOPLE'S MONEY! Ok, so it wasn't Vararam that was taking the money but one of their distributors... but it still reflect poorly on the Vararam... should have policies in place with their distributors...

Don't buy the cave in and throw a date out there... all you do is end up with a bunch of pissed off customers when you miss your dates...


but regardless,

What is the situation?

Next week, next year, next month??? I guess we have no choice but to wait, but can we at least get a new window of timeframe??
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Old 05-20-2011, 02:44 PM   #1249
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This is where they stirred the pot on the v6 Camaro intake. You want to go down and hug on them fine. Maybe you'll "win" their intake in your drawing.
Now keep working the shakeweight, I'm sure they enjoy it.

lol I suggest you stay inside till you learn something about real life. It has nothing to do with reality TV.

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Rolnslo - I think that you have done a great job in the work with VR.

I think we also need to understand usa1. Remember what happened with the airaid issue with me and then trying to get them to admit there was an issue. Another example was BBK saying they had a finished product but that didn't release for another 3 months after promised date. During that time alot of vendors were accepting money for the BBK headers.

So yes it's great for VR wanting to make a great finished product; and awesome rolnslo has put all this time into it. Bad that VR gave vendors a timeframe, and now the vendors are stuck in the middle. So yes bad that the vendor took the money; but bad on VR for even "HINTING" at a release date, without 100% percent assurance of that date.
Vendors stick themselves in the middle by accepting money before a product is released. It is a vendor issure. If someone else down the line is accepting money for something they don't have... shame on them. How you think something a downstream vendor does affects Vararam I have no idea. Vararam seems dedicated to providing a product that will back up whatever they say it is capable of.

On the flip side, we in business have to never cave in to folks begging for a time frame. Even an estimated one as they will almost always take it as a deadline written in blood before it is over with.

USA1... Vararam will undoubtedly be moving forward with new products in the future. I suggest not paying anyone for them untill they are actually released. That goes for anything in life from anyone or any company.
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Old 05-20-2011, 03:06 PM   #1250
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This thread's teetering on being locked, guys. Come on
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Old 05-20-2011, 03:21 PM   #1251
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Why would it be locked. I've seen nothing that would require it being locked.

Just a discussion going on while folks wait on more updates.
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Old 05-20-2011, 05:49 PM   #1252
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lol I suggest you stay inside till you learn something about real life. It has nothing to do with reality TV.
Coming from the hero that still believes our ECM hasn't been cracked and there is no real tune I take it for what it's worth.
I don't watch reality TV. I don't have the time.

I saw what Steve put up saying they'd be shipped by the end of April as the intake was ready. Then I saw where the Houston folks started chiming in here about the upcoming show and how one would be donated as a prize and didn't get much out of the back and forth.

Let me give you a little insight about business. Goals are set all the time. Sometimes they are met and sometimes they aren't. Sometimes when they aren't penalties are involved, whether it be monetary or future contracts or whatever. If a goal isn't met usually it is analyzed as to why not and what it will take to complete the project and a new goal/plan is made. In any case the customer is given an update. That doesn't have to be a date, but something more than we are making it better is usually required.

I still believe this intake will outperform the others due to the design idea. That is why I have my money towards this even when I already have a "tube with a cone filter".

I was finally given an update from Maryland Speed and right now from what I was told I feel confident they are on the right track from what they were told.
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:00 PM   #1253
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IM EXTREMELY PISSED!
At who? ROLNSLO!!
Why?! WHERE ARE THE DAMN VIDEOS!!!


Just kidding man lol but seriously, can we get a video?


Dude, c'mon....I haven't even driven or seen my car in nearly two weeks because I left it with Vararam to help them move this intake along. I would have gotten you a video of the Corvette but, um, something happened to it...:(...really really sorry Patrick about that water pump seal going bad and the ensuing coolant bath for the engine compartment. )

But, hey, I've got a nice blue rental Impala LT for the weekend. It's kind of on the extremely quiet side but it's got a six in it, will that work?
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:29 PM   #1254
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As for an update on the intake progress...I stopped by Vararam this morning to see how things were going.

First off, it looks like the changes that were made to add performance gains at higher rpms has required changes to the looks of the intake. There is only so much room between the throttle body and the radiator core support and the intake spacing in this area is critical to MAF sensor behavior. So changes were needed to ensure that enough air was getting to the filter. The upper filter cover piece was changed and is now larger than it was before but provides a larger volume of air for the intake to pull from. The scoop that extends down is now wider (and shorter). I'll try to get some pictures of the new setup next time I see my car.

I still don't have an updated timeline to pass along but I got the feeling that things are coming together.
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Old 05-21-2011, 12:29 AM   #1255
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Is the intake going to be covered??? Thought I saw a pic without a cover, filter exposed!
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Old 05-21-2011, 12:37 AM   #1256
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The filter will still be exposed.
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Old 05-21-2011, 03:09 AM   #1257
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Dude, c'mon....I haven't even driven or seen my car in nearly two weeks because I left it with Vararam to help them move this intake along. I would have gotten you a video of the Corvette but, um, something happened to it...:(...really really sorry Patrick about that water pump seal going bad and the ensuing coolant bath for the engine compartment. )

But, hey, I've got a nice blue rental Impala LT for the weekend. It's kind of on the extremely quiet side but it's got a six in it, will that work?
Lmao that would work man
And yeah man just pulling your leg, I cant imagine two weeks without my baby. I know shes stored for winter and thats rough, but when the weather is beautiful, its 10x harder :(
But in all seriousness, when you do get your baby back, VIDS. Your vids are the best and I actually still listen to them, love the outside point of view or audio
does the vararam sound like a normal aftermarket intake? is it loud? Sound a bit different?
May sound like stupid questions but I would really like to know lol and couldnt find any vids of SSs with them on youtube
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Old 05-21-2011, 03:17 AM   #1258
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Old 05-21-2011, 09:58 AM   #1259
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Lmao that would work man
And yeah man just pulling your leg, I cant imagine two weeks without my baby. I know shes stored for winter and thats rough, but when the weather is beautiful, its 10x harder :(
But in all seriousness, when you do get your baby back, VIDS. Your vids are the best and I actually still listen to them, love the outside point of view or audio
does the vararam sound like a normal aftermarket intake? is it loud? Sound a bit different?
May sound like stupid questions but I would really like to know lol and couldnt find any vids of SSs with them on youtube
I'll put the camera by the front door so I remember this time.

As for sound, the intake itself is quiet. Vararam works hard to ensure the airflow is as smooth as possible, which leads to less noise caused by air turbulence/disturbance. They also focus on the design inside the intake to ensure that sound wave pulses coming out of the engine through the throttle body get cancelled out rather than allowing them to escape out the front of the intake.

My exhaust sound has changed a bit though. It's a bit louder and cleaner (less muted) sounding. I'll make sure I get both the intake and exhaust sounds when I do the video.
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ronslo, is VR paying you for all the work you are putting in? I think your work here deserve more than just a free intake. Serously!! lol
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