Vararam installed!!!

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by Jason7

except for a Cold Air Inductions CAI. These vararams are so ugly....

Jason

That is all subjective, and I personally LOVE the look of the Vararam and the performance is outstanding.

[B Mccue]

Originally Posted by Jason7

except for a Cold Air Inductions CAI. These vararams are so ugly....

Jason

If I was after looks I wouldn't have sold my cai inc for the vararam. I was after performance and I can tell you after owning both that there is no comparing the two. If I can't get the vr issues worked out i'll go back to cai and this time add the scoop. Hope it doesn't come to that.

[swisscheese]

Originally Posted by Jason7

except for a Cold Air Inductions CAI. These vararams are so ugly....

Jason

I think its sooooo sexy!!!

[Jason7]

Maybe before I make up my mind I should see one in person... you are all talking about how much power over the cold air inductions your making but is there any links someone can post to prove this?

Jason

[IndeedSS1]

Originally Posted by Jason7

Maybe before I make up my mind I should see one in person... you are all talking about how much power over the cold air inductions your making but is there any links someone can post to prove this?

Jason

I owned a CAI first and then a Vararam and now a Halltech/ADM/Roto-Fab hybrid. While the CAI is of top notch material, build, and looks (looks imo) I really didn't "feel" anything different. I knew Ted's dyno testing showed HP gains so I assumed it was the same for me. Top notch customer service. btw.

Next I tried the Vararam. While I thought the quality was less than stellar, the "feel" was what was impressive. Despite my disappointing dyno numbers, you couldn't take away the fact that the VR gave a SOTP difference that was undeniable. As far a I was able to decypher, that feel was an initial burst of torque when hitting the throttle. That shot of torque gets you moving and you can feel it. Again, my interpetation, was that there was a torque gain right at the beginning and although it may not carry though you can't tell once you are moving. Customer service was great with the guys at VR as well. Just to note, I've not given up on them yet.

Next I tried the Halltech Yellow-Jacket. This intake did really well, next to the CAI, in Ted's testing. It turned out to be on par with my impressions of the CAI as far as performance. But it have the kick of the VR. I added the ADM scoop and imo it helped ALOT. But I needed a washer bottle, so now enter Roto-Fab. I now have the Halltech tube and filter, Roto-Fab box and washer bottle kit and the box is line with the same insulating material that CAI uses on the CAI box. The feel of this setup got me close to the VR but the dyno numbers were way better. Customer service of Halltech and Roto-Fab were great. I special Kudos to Roto-Fab for the quality of their cai box, washerbottle kit, and as odd as it may seem, their packaging of parts.

Now back to the Vararam. You really should at least try one. If you don't like it or it doesn't perform to your expectaions, they will give your money back. I don't think anyone else has that type of guarantee.

[IndeedSS1]

Adding a note about the pivoting of the two halves and potential for dirt in the intake. Last night I had a chance to look at a new VR. While small dust could get in around the slip fit, if the filter and its housing is installed properly and sealed against what VR calls the tail section, dirt should not be able to bypass the filter.

[B Mccue]

Originally Posted by IndeedSS1

Adding a note about the pivoting of the two halves and potential for dirt in the intake. Last night I had a chance to look at a new VR. While small dust could get in around the slip fit, if the filter and its housing is installed properly and sealed against what VR calls the tail section, dirt should not be able to bypass the filter.

I did the same thing. I think I got the dirt in there during removal. I bought a pack of rubber grommets for the vacuum hose and no leaks now. Ran a 13.2@109 last night in very poor conditions (91% humidity). I think it will do 12's easily with a good driver and better conditions.

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by B Mccue

I did the same thing. I think I got the dirt in there during removal. I bought a pack of rubber grommets for the vacuum hose and no leaks now. Ran a 13.2@109 last night in very poor conditions (91% humidity). I think it will do 12's easily with a good driver and better conditions.

Nice job!!!

[2010_BumbleBee]

Jason,

I have the CAI system and love it. Talked for several days with Ted Jannetty and have not one ounce of doubt I was correct in believing Ted. He knows these camaros. Ask him about RAM AIR and you'll laugh at what he tells you and why!

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by 2010_BumbleBee

Jason,

I have the CAI system and love it. Talked for several days with Ted Jannetty and have not one ounce of doubt I was correct in believing Ted. He knows these camaros. Ask him about RAM AIR and you'll laugh at what he tells you and why!

Say what you want, but people have had both CAI and VARARAM. Without the ADM scoop the CAI just does not match up on performance. I know the Vararam is not a ram air system, but the way in which it gets it's air gives it a very nice advantage. Proof is in the pudding, driving. With the Vararam in, the low end torque is unmistakenly much better than stock. Bottom line, there are a lot of nice systems out there. This is a thread for Vararam discussion. If you want to take a shot at Vararam, then you should have done it in a PM to that member.

[IndeedSS1]

Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

Say what you want, but people have had both CAI and VARARAM. Without the ADM scoop the CAI just does not match up on performance. I know the Vararam is not a ram air system, but the way in which it gets it's air gives it a very nice advantage. Proof is in the pudding, driving. With the Vararam in, the low end torque is unmistakenly much better than stock. Bottom line, there are a lot of nice systems out there. This is a thread for Vararam discussion. If you want to take a shot at Vararam, then you should have done it in a PM to that member.

You know I wasn't going to let the cat out of the bag, but now seems to be a good time. I am back to running a Vararam and can confirm what those that actually test stuff will. There is something about the Vararam that is different but in a good way. Quick and updated history. Started with C.A.I., went to Vararam, then back to stock, next Halltech Yellow-Jacket, then Yellow-Jacket with ADM scoop, and now a new Vararam.

What is different about the VR is the torque response to throttling even from low rpm high load conditions. I know it's not so much ram effect, but the extremely short path from ambient air to the engine. This time around I plan on doing scanning of FTs to see what is going on during daily driving. However, I can say without a doubt there is more fun factor with the VR. Although the Halltech, once the scoop was added, got what I thought was pretty close to VR. But after going directly from the YJ with scoop to VR I'm not sure that it was as close as I initially thought. Even though my VR is a no-tune, there is so much to be gain with proper fueling that a tune may be in my future.

[BackinBlackSS/RS]

Originally Posted by IndeedSS1

You know I wasn't going to let the cat out of the bag, but now seems to be a good time. I am back to running a Vararam and can confirm what those that actually test stuff will. There is something about the Vararam that is different but in a good way. Quick and updated history. Started with C.A.I., went to Vararam, then back to stock, next Halltech Yellow-Jacket, then Yellow-Jacket with ADM scoop, and now a new Vararam.

What is different about the VR is the torque response to throttling even from low rpm high load conditions. I know it's not so much ram effect, but the extremely short path from ambient air to the engine. This time around I plan on doing scanning of FTs to see what is going on during daily driving. However, I can say without a doubt there is more fun factor with the VR. Although the Halltech, once the scoop was added, got what I thought was pretty close to VR. But after going directly from the YJ with scoop to VR I'm not sure that it was as close as I initially thought. Even though my VR is a no-tune, there is so much to be gain with proper fueling that a tune may be in my future.

[Jason7]

Originally Posted by IndeedSS1

I owned a CAI first and then a Vararam and now a Halltech/ADM/Roto-Fab hybrid. While the CAI is of top notch material, build, and looks (looks imo) I really didn't "feel" anything different. I knew Ted's dyno testing showed HP gains so I assumed it was the same for me. Top notch customer service. btw.

Next I tried the Vararam. While I thought the quality was less than stellar, the "feel" was what was impressive. Despite my disappointing dyno numbers, you couldn't take away the fact that the VR gave a SOTP difference that was undeniable. As far a I was able to decypher, that feel was an initial burst of torque when hitting the throttle. That shot of torque gets you moving and you can feel it. Again, my interpetation, was that there was a torque gain right at the beginning and although it may not carry though you can't tell once you are moving. Customer service was great with the guys at VR as well. Just to note, I've not given up on them yet.

Next I tried the Halltech Yellow-Jacket. This intake did really well, next to the CAI, in Ted's testing. It turned out to be on par with my impressions of the CAI as far as performance. But it have the kick of the VR. I added the ADM scoop and imo it helped ALOT. But I needed a washer bottle, so now enter Roto-Fab. I now have the Halltech tube and filter, Roto-Fab box and washer bottle kit and the box is line with the same insulating material that CAI uses on the CAI box. The feel of this setup got me close to the VR but the dyno numbers were way better. Customer service of Halltech and Roto-Fab were great. I special Kudos to Roto-Fab for the quality of their cai box, washerbottle kit, and as odd as it may seem, their packaging of parts.

Now back to the Vararam. You really should at least try one. If you don't like it or it doesn't perform to your expectaions, they will give your money back. I don't think anyone else has that type of guarantee.

I know im late on this reply but thanks for the information, awesome write up, im going to try one!

JASON

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by IndeedSS1

You know I wasn't going to let the cat out of the bag, but now seems to be a good time. I am back to running a Vararam and can confirm what those that actually test stuff will. There is something about the Vararam that is different but in a good way. Quick and updated history. Started with C.A.I., went to Vararam, then back to stock, next Halltech Yellow-Jacket, then Yellow-Jacket with ADM scoop, and now a new Vararam.

What is different about the VR is the torque response to throttling even from low rpm high load conditions. I know it's not so much ram effect, but the extremely short path from ambient air to the engine. This time around I plan on doing scanning of FTs to see what is going on during daily driving. However, I can say without a doubt there is more fun factor with the VR. Although the Halltech, once the scoop was added, got what I thought was pretty close to VR. But after going directly from the YJ with scoop to VR I'm not sure that it was as close as I initially thought. Even though my VR is a no-tune, there is so much to be gain with proper fueling that a tune may be in my future.

Nice to have you back, although, kinda saw this coming, what with you hanging around in the Vararam threads. I will be really interested in finding out your FT's. You are getting a new unit, correct?