modded camaro vs stock 2010 mustang gt

[SIXJAK]

Sorry that vintage of Mustang is not insurmountable for an LLT.

CAI intake =14.9 HP increase
SOLO catback exhaust = 29 HP increase
SW LT headers with high flow cats = 20 HP increase
Vince's 13 HP tune
TB upgrade = 3 HP increase
(These are my planned upgrades BTW. Have CAI intake installed and SW headers are going on as soon as my gaskets get here.)

Obviously this doesn't equate to a 79.9 HP increase up to 391.9 at the crank but I think it's reasonable to assume you could see a 30 HP (15 -20 lb feet of torque) gain with these mods and be up over 340 HP - 280 lb feet of TQ at the crank not to mention benefit from a 50-60 pound loss with just these mods. Throw in some lightweight wheels and a 3.73 rear end and the prospect of taking down a stock 2010 GT is certainly more than doable.

And yes I have been to the track more than a couple of times and have watched plenty of Mustangs GT's get down the track cuz there's a ton of them where I live. And no that doesn't make me experienced either.

Most of the Mustangs around here if they're anywhere near stock run in the 14's. I just don't see consistent 13's like the rest of you seem to out of these cars.

But as someone else said in this thread, race him already and post the results.....

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by 20Camaro11

Mustang FTW....more HP, more tq, less weight, case closed.

Not correct....LESS HP (probably 20 - 25 less HP, more TQ, less weight....

Originally Posted by jamie

I hit consistant 13.5's with my 2011 V-6 all the time (And its a MT). Beating him on the tree is where you need to concentrate... It will be close for sure, but there is no reason why you couldn't take the Mustang. Practice up or you won't be able to beat him...

What mods are you running?

and Yes we need timeslips from you jamie! Otherwise we can't just take your word for it!

[20Camaro11]

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by SIXJAK

Sorry that vintage of Mustang is not insurmountable for an LLT.

CAI intake =14.9 HP increase
SOLO catback exhaust = 29 HP increase (more like maybe a 9 increase...IF that)
SW LT headers with high flow cats = 20 HP increase
Vince's 13 HP tune
TB upgrade = 3 HP increase
(These are my planned upgrades BTW. Have CAI intake installed and SW headers are going on as soon as my gaskets get here.)

Obviously this doesn't equate to a 79.9 HP increase up to 391.9 at the crank but I think it's reasonable to assume you could see a 30 HP (15 -20 lb feet of torque) gain with these mods and be up over 340 HP - 280 lb (I say right around 300 lb) feet of TQ at the crank not to mention benefit from a 50-60 pound loss with just these mods. Throw in some lightweight wheels and a 3.73 rear end and the prospect of taking down a stock 2010 GT is certainly more than doable.

And yes I have been to the track more than a couple of times and have watched plenty of Mustangs GT's get down the track cuz there's a ton of them where I live. And no that doesn't make me experienced either.

Most of the Mustangs around here if they're anywhere near stock run in the 14's. I just don't see consistent 13's like the rest of you seem to out of these cars.

But as someone else said in this thread, race him already and post the results.....

Hrm...let me correct that just a tad lol (see above)...but overall I certainly agree with your statement!

[SIXJAK]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Hrm...let me correct that just a tad lol (see above)...but overall I certainly agree with your statement!

Just going with SOLO's claims and dyno sheets off their website but yeah you're probably right LOL.

[bowtie628]

my dad has a 05 mustang gt manual with a intake and tune.. im curious if my stock automatic LS has a chance at all.. haha

[SWAT 79]

Originally Posted by formare

Clearly you have not yet tried first hand a race between a 10 and older stang against the 6 else you would say it would be close if the mustang driver is an expert, otherwise a win For the camaro by at least a car length.

If it were an 11 or newer - then all the camaro driver would see is tail lights.

A 10 gt mustang manual can run 13.3's bone stock, with a competent driver, and have trapped upwards of 106 mph. To bring that to camaro terms, that would be a above average run for an l99.

While you guys have "enlightened me" that it would be closer then I originally thought, the mustang WILL NOT see said camaro's tailights, unless he's not actually racing. stock the camaro v-6 is a mid 14 second car, so lets say 14.4 to be on the nicer side of things. Is it going to be up 1 full second (essentially 100 hp, for the sake of the conversation for every 10 hp=1 car length) in it's quarter mile time from the above mods? I don't think so.

[TheClassicCarKid]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

An auto GT maybe, but no shot on a stick. but at the same time, with the BUS lengths you'd put on both cars, it would be difficult to tell a 3 or 4 car lengths, especially when you're that far ahead, which would be around what the gt has over this modded v-6.




Accept? This isn't something I'm in denial over. The mustang will put down similar power and more torque at the tires, with equal gears and 300 lbs lighter. Mustang by at least 3 cars, if both cars are driven close equally. Worth noting that a manual 2010 gt is very close time wise to an l99 camaro, in some cases trapping similar (2010 gt's have run numerous 13.3s and trapped upwards of 106 mph, same trap and slightly slower time to the l99, stock for stock of course)

I haven't seen anything about what gears the stang has, how do you know they aren't the 3.31's?

[DarkneSS]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

A 10 gt mustang manual can run 13.3's bone stock, with a competent driver, and have trapped upwards of 106 mph. To bring that to camaro terms, that would be a above average run for an l99.

While you guys have "enlightened me" that it would be closer then I originally thought, the mustang WILL NOT see said camaro's tailights, unless he's not actually racing. stock the camaro v-6 is a mid 14 second car, so lets say 14.4 to be on the nicer side of things. Is it going to be up 1 full second (essentially 100 hp, for the sake of the conversation for every 10 hp=1 car length) in it's quarter mile time from the above mods? I don't think so.

AVG 1/4 is about 13.5. Camaro V6 with the nice list of mods the OP has can certainly run mid to low 13s. This will be a driver's race.

If you cant admit that, then you're just being hard headed.

Bets are off however if the GT is modded in any way, even intake and catback will be enough to make it an almost sure win for the GT.

[usa1camaro1969]

Take 'em to the track already.

[SGOS252382]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

A 10 gt mustang manual can run 13.3's bone stock, with a competent driver, and have trapped upwards of 106 mph. To bring that to camaro terms, that would be a above average run for an l99.

While you guys have "enlightened me" that it would be closer then I originally thought, the mustang WILL NOT see said camaro's tailights, unless he's not actually racing. stock the camaro v-6 is a mid 14 second car, so lets say 14.4 to be on the nicer side of things. Is it going to be up 1 full second (essentially 100 hp, for the sake of the conversation for every 10 hp=1 car length) in it's quarter mile time from the above mods? I don't think so.

I will agree a 10 GT is on average a faster car than a 10 V6 Camaro. But to claim the 10 GT is a 13.3 sec car (bone stock) with a competent driver is a big stretch.
You could even start a thread over in Stangnet and they'll tell you the same. 13.3 (bone stock) in a 10 GT would be a glory pass (like a mid 12 sec run in an LS3 Camaro).

[jamie]

List of mods is very short. DOT Drag tires on a set of dedicated wheels (Yes they are light and smaller than stock 19's) CAI. Custom exhausts. and a Healthy shot of N02. However there are others on here that are posting 13.8's etc. without the spray. My Dad says the 13.5 is lazy and feels he can do better. I agree since he did it for a living for many years. We will see when he gets here from down south this year. I will keep my slips next time. I didn't think a 13.5 was something to brag about. I was just simply stating that its possible to get a completely stock 10 Mustang GT in a Drag race... Anyone who disagree's hasn't raced one.

[formare]

Originally Posted by jamie

List of mods is very short. DOT Drag tires on a set of dedicated wheels (Yes they are light and smaller than stock 19's) CAI. Custom exhausts. and a Healthy shot of N02. However there are others on here that are posting 13.8's etc. without the spray. My Dad says the 13.5 is lazy and feels he can do better. I agree since he did it for a living for many years. We will see when he gets here from down south this year. I will keep my slips next time. I didn't think a 13.5 was something to brag about. I was just simply stating that its possible to get a completely stock 10 Mustang GT in a Drag race... Anyone who disagree's hasn't raced one.

those that have done the race know the real answer. If you doubt the answer then prove it to yourself. It's all good.

The BBC version of top gear shows us time and time again the driver is the most important factor in winning, even if the cars aren't exactly close. I do like that show.....

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by bowtie628

my dad has a 05 mustang gt manual with a intake and tune.. im curious if my stock automatic LS has a chance at all.. haha

Sorry no chance lol...but you should run em just to see what happens! It would be fun. Maybe your dad will mess up the launch or something and then you never know what will happen lol.

Originally Posted by jamie

List of mods is very short. DOT Drag tires on a set of dedicated wheels (Yes they are light and smaller than stock 19's) CAI. Custom exhausts. and a Healthy shot of N02. However there are others on here that are posting 13.8's etc. without the spray. My Dad says the 13.5 is lazy and feels he can do better. I agree since he did it for a living for many years. We will see when he gets here from down south this year. I will keep my slips next time. I didn't think a 13.5 was something to brag about. I was just simply stating that its possible to get a completely stock 10 Mustang GT in a Drag race... Anyone who disagree's hasn't raced one.

Hrm...I'd think you would be able to get into the 13s with just those drag tires and a good launch. But your also running spray which changes the picture drastically.

Heck, we've already had two different V6s here that ran nitrous get a 12.01 and an 11.9 quarter mile. A camaro V6 with tires and anything over a 50 to 75 shot is really not even a fair fight anymore versus a stock auto '10 GT.