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gatorlover · 08-01-2011, 06:36 PM

Ok guys and gals, I just received a quote for a cam and wanted to get some opinions on the specs and such.

First let me level set by sharing the current mods on my car.
2010 2ss L99
K&N cold air intake
1 7/8 XSpower long tubes with cat delete connection pipes
Borla "s" type catback 2.5"
Jannetty Tune

As for the quote, this is what it includes:
3 bolt cam 225/230 .617 / .612 112 LSA
Remove and
Replace Camshaft, Requires
DOD/VVT Delete Lit and
Installation-Remove and Replace
Lifters,Valley Cover, Head Gaskets
Naturally Aspirated Electronic Fuel
Injection Tuning
GM VVT Delete kit-Engine Front
Cover Gasket

DOD Delete Kit-LS7 Lifters,
Valley Cover, Lifter Trays, Head Bolts
Camshaft, Pushrods, Double Valve
Springs, Valve Seats, Valve Seals,
Water Pump Gaskets, Timing Cover
Gasket, Front Cover Seal, ARP
Crank Bolt
GM MLS Cylinder Head Gasket
8 Quarts Oil, Oil Filter, Coolant

Curious if anyone else has a cam like this and what are your thoughts on how it will behave as a daily driver.

gatorlover · 08-02-2011, 06:35 AM

anyone?

steeleshark2 · 08-02-2011, 08:16 AM

Ever thought about getting your heads done since they will already be off?

Parapdrapa · 08-02-2011, 08:33 AM

That cam will be very streetable. Good manners and good power below 230/230 .620/.620 u still need a good tune so make it so

gatorlover · 08-02-2011, 08:36 AM

Well, biggest challenge right now is funds to do what I was quoted. I'm really early in my research so we shall see.

Quote:

Originally Posted by steeleshark2

Ever thought about getting your heads done since they will already be off?

*mlee* · 08-02-2011, 08:55 AM

Looks like everything is covered... might want to think about a Torque Converter too but if funds are a concern why not just leave the heads on for now and put in a VVT cam. You can still get the nice lope and keep it very streetable.

That would save a few $$$ and get you the same results...

gatorlover · 08-02-2011, 09:25 AM

Interesting thought. I will need to do some research on those. So that would negate having to do the ls3 conversion correct? I'm still learning so I apologize if thats a stupid question.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlee

Looks like everything is covered... might want to think about a Torque Converter too but if funds are a concern why not just leave the heads on for now and put in a VVT cam. You can still get the nice lope and keep it very streetable.

That would save a few $$$ and get you the same results...

*mlee* · 08-02-2011, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatorlover

Interesting thought. I will need to do some research on those. So that would negate having to do the ls3 conversion correct? I'm still learning so I apologize if thats a stupid question.

Yes it would. Since you are doing a smaller cam with no Torque Converter I would definitely look into just putting in a VVT cam. Lot's of good threads around here and there are some good power benefits to keeping VVT. There is only really one downside and it's keeping the stock lifters but they make VVT cams that are lifter fiendly.

Chris@SPMC · 08-02-2011, 12:03 PM

The problem with DOD lifters is that you are limited to .500" lift and can't really take advantage of how well the heads flow, being that the LS3 has .551" from the factory and much of it's power difference is because of that.

steeleshark2 · 08-02-2011, 12:36 PM

Torque Converter is the best bang for buck. You could also go with a bigger cam if you had one. Only my opinion, I would do the LS3 conversion.

Patrick G · 08-02-2011, 02:15 PM

You can get a VVT cam with high lift, but you'll need to replace the DOD/AFM lifters. Going phaser-only is a solid plan for broader power under the curve. VVT is a real performance advantage if your installer/tuner knows how to work the right combo.

08-01-2011, 06:36 PM	#1
gatorlover Drives: 2013 AGM 1SS/RS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: jacksonville Posts: 248	Another cam question Ok guys and gals, I just received a quote for a cam and wanted to get some opinions on the specs and such. First let me level set by sharing the current mods on my car. 2010 2ss L99 K&N cold air intake 1 7/8 XSpower long tubes with cat delete connection pipes Borla "s" type catback 2.5" Jannetty Tune As for the quote, this is what it includes: 3 bolt cam 225/230 .617 / .612 112 LSA Remove and Replace Camshaft, Requires DOD/VVT Delete Lit and Installation-Remove and Replace Lifters,Valley Cover, Head Gaskets Naturally Aspirated Electronic Fuel Injection Tuning GM VVT Delete kit-Engine Front Cover Gasket DOD Delete Kit-LS7 Lifters, Valley Cover, Lifter Trays, Head Bolts Camshaft, Pushrods, Double Valve Springs, Valve Seats, Valve Seals, Water Pump Gaskets, Timing Cover Gasket, Front Cover Seal, ARP Crank Bolt GM MLS Cylinder Head Gasket 8 Quarts Oil, Oil Filter, Coolant Curious if anyone else has a cam like this and what are your thoughts on how it will behave as a daily driver. __________________ 2013 Ashen Grey Metallic 1SS/1LE, NPP, Camera (1 of 43 produced) Last edited by gatorlover; 08-01-2011 at 06:48 PM.

08-02-2011, 06:35 AM	#2
gatorlover Drives: 2013 AGM 1SS/RS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: jacksonville Posts: 248	anyone? __________________ 2013 Ashen Grey Metallic 1SS/1LE, NPP, Camera (1 of 43 produced)

08-02-2011, 08:16 AM	#3
steeleshark2 Drives: 2010 Transformer 1SS Camaro Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Kingsland, Ga Posts: 2,553 View My Garage	Ever thought about getting your heads done since they will already be off? __________________ Build page:http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...77#post3083477

08-02-2011, 08:55 AM	#6
mlee CamaroFans.com Drives: ZLE & ZR2 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 37,958 View My Garage	Looks like everything is covered... might want to think about a Torque Converter too but if funds are a concern why not just leave the heads on for now and put in a VVT cam. You can still get the nice lope and keep it very streetable. That would save a few $$$ and get you the same results... __________________

08-02-2011, 12:36 PM	#10
steeleshark2 Drives: 2010 Transformer 1SS Camaro Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Kingsland, Ga Posts: 2,553 View My Garage	Torque Converter is the best bang for buck. You could also go with a bigger cam if you had one. Only my opinion, I would do the LS3 conversion. __________________ Build page:http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...77#post3083477

08-02-2011, 08:33 AM	#4
Parapdrapa Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: NC Posts: 174	That cam will be very streetable. Good manners and good power below 230/230 .620/.620 u still need a good tune so make it so

08-02-2011, 12:03 PM	#9
Chris@SPMC Account Suspended Drives: '99 H/C FRC Corvette and '07 TBSS Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 175	The problem with DOD lifters is that you are limited to .500" lift and can't really take advantage of how well the heads flow, being that the LS3 has .551" from the factory and much of it's power difference is because of that.

08-02-2011, 02:15 PM	#11
Patrick G Drives: 2009 Pontiac G8 GT Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Victoria, TX Posts: 52	You can get a VVT cam with high lift, but you'll need to replace the DOD/AFM lifters. Going phaser-only is a solid plan for broader power under the curve. VVT is a real performance advantage if your installer/tuner knows how to work the right combo. __________________ 2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 Forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, ECS NOVI 1500 blower, 222/242 .629/.604 121LSA EPS cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, NPP exhaust, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, no meth, w/stock street manners. 2014 GMC Yukon XL Denali, Air Raid MIT, tuned. 2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph Texas Mile 2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 Texas Mile LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7 Custom Camshaft Specialist

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