catch can research shows it's worthless

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Here is a picture of the LLT V6 intake manifold. Look just inside of the snout where the engineers built in a dip to collect and trap oil:

[CC Performance]

Originally Posted by PQ

I"m no expert obviously. But my gut tells me there isn't enough oil getting through to the pistons to detonate.

How many times per minute does each cylinder fire?

I put my blower on with 20k+ miles on my car. Yes, I had a lot of oil in it. I took pics and posted them up. I bought a catch can because of it, and I am NOT speaking as if I am an expert. But if you figure a cup of oil every 5k miles or so I'm not so sure that's goint to hurt anything. I can't see that the cilynders allow so much oil per stroke in as to cause a detonation condition.

I bought mine mainly because of my supercharger. Tracy's supercharger info was enough for me to play it safe when I did my blower. I got the catch can and so I'm ok. But also because I have been wrong plenty of times before and it is an inexpensive measure. I"m just thinking out loud.

Build-up of oil can't be good. But that's what seafoam is for.

And as far as the big car companies not making them......... why the hell would they make one? It's preventative for WAY after your warranty expires. (jk)

I think during testing we trapped 1.4 oz in 3200 miles or something like that on an unmodded Camaro.. no its not like its a quart.....LOL but in the long run it does buildup and so if your keeping your car and looking to do everything you can to keep it pristine its a good idea...imo.. it certainly isnt hurting anything and people waste $120-$180 in a couple good nights of food and spirits ( or at least I do..hahahaha) so in the big realm of money spent its cheap insurance.

Its the buildup in the chamber that causes the detonation I think.. ?
Tracy that picture is nasty..LOL hope you washed your hands after

[PQ]

Originally Posted by CC Performance

I think during testing we trapped 1.4 oz in 3200 miles or something like that on an unmodded Camaro.. no its not like its a quart.....LOL but in the long run it does buildup and so if your keeping your car and looking to do everything you can to keep it pristine its a good idea...imo.. it certainly isnt hurting anything and people waste $120-$180 in a couple good nights of food and spirits ( or at least I do..hahahaha) so in the big realm of money spent its cheap insurance.

Agreed. I'd buy another one if this one got lost somehow. I just like the idea of having it clean in there. Kinda like cleaning anything, it can't hurt and can only help. Plus, it just makes you feel better.

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It spreads like poision ivey Chris!

[PQ]

Why wouldn't that oil help to keep that intercooler ..... cooler?

Just curious. I am NOT advocating oil in a supercharger.

[mikepage0007]

why do you put synthetic oil in your car , because the maunufacturer tells you to?? probably most do it for that reason..but the real reason to run synthetic is because of the tight bearing clearances in these hp cars...try and run some 20/50 castrol in here and yopu would be lucky to get the car to the next oil change...these ls motors are not built to throw in any weight or type of oil...what happens to the oil that goes thru my sc -rotors-intercooler-then gets into my cylnder if it makes it that far, i,m running meth to cover my ass to make sure my octane doesen,t drop below 93...i don,t think throwing in some motor oil is gonna help me maintain that 93 octane...if that was the case, i would dump my meth and shoot oil into the snout...if you don,t want to spend 100.00 on a catch can don,t..those of us that are runnign higher then average hp feel this a necessary issue..also if you run autocross, i seen gary,s custom intake after a couple laps...that was ridiculous, the g,s involved and the rpm,s that were needed to run 100mph plus, forced a ounce of oil down his snout in just 1 day..that was the last day, he got a catch can, these are my opinions, like them or not..

[Rhino79]

Why would you be ok with oil in your intake? Carbon deposits create hot spots and preignition issues. Sure seafoam is good stuff and will help clean it, but if you can prevent on the front end, why not?

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Originally Posted by PQ

Why wouldn't that oil help to keep that intercooler ..... cooler?

Just curious. I am NOT advocating oil in a supercharger.

As you can see the varnish/deposits from the oil ingestion have already coated that intercooler rendering it less able to transfer heat and is on its way to clogging up the fins reducing the amount of airflow. After time it will work at app 50% of its original ability to cool the air moving past it. You want an intercooler/heat exchanger as clean and bare as possible to aid in the cooling ability.

[Pentatonic]

Does the LSA engine on the ZL1 have a catch can?

[JDP Motorsports]

Originally Posted by Pentatonic

Does the LSA engine on the ZL1 have a catch can?

No it does not; neither does the ZR1. I laugh sometimes when people say " if GM Engineers didn't do something or design one then it is junk or not needed". This is a NO BRAINIER to me and I paid for and installed one on my Camaro the 2nd day I owned it. I also do a lot of road course driving and I've dumped a lot of oil out. For the price it is cheap insurance and I put one on just about every car we work on. Is it going to make me rich, no!

There are reasons why the manufactures don't install them and it is spelled out throughout this thread... Everyone can make their own educated assessment but I'll stick with mine.

Kind regards,

Jordan Priestley
888.308.6007

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by SC2150

Lets address Super Chargers and oil in the intake air charge.

There are even large respected installers that claim oil in the intake charge is somehow "good".

Here is a picture of a Maggie intercooler after not that many miles running w/out a oil separating system:



Notice how in a short time the oil residue has coated the intercooler reducing its ability to properly cool as efficient as it was designed to. Now picture the rotors of the TVS blower that are persicsion designed with extrememly close tolerances for peak performance. This same residue builds up throwing the balance of and eventually causing interference between the rotors that result in shorter life and eventual damage.

This is just the BEFORE the combustion chamber carbon & gunk build up addressed in the above posts.

Now can anyone give an educated reason why this is good for any part of the blower system or engine?

Bring up anything you have been told or heard so it can be disscussed and the facts separated from fiction. This is your car and your investment.....knowing all you can is for your benifit.

Oh good lord....the optimist inside of me wants to assume that's Mustang stuck in the teeth of a supercharged Camaro....but I know better...Gross!!!

catch-can, immediate mod. *check*

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I just went back and read the OP's post, and no where is there any "research" listed to support the threads title, only the GM's opinion in the link......still waiting for someone to post how oil ingestion is "good" in any way...

[JDP Motorsports]

Originally Posted by SC2150

I just went back and read the OP's post, and no where is there any "research" listed to support the threads title, only the GM's opinion in the link......still waiting for someone to post how oil ingestion is "good" in any way...

It helps airflow better through the manifold, lubricates the valves and plugs!

[SSGUNNER]

Originally Posted by SC2150

I just went back and read the OP's post, and no where is there any "research" listed to support the threads title, only the GM's opinion in the link......still waiting for someone to post how oil ingestion is "good" in any way...

Sorry to but i just received my can and im eondering where i can get some step by step guide on installation? For example clear hose on bottom of can, where does thay go?.