catch can research shows it's worthless

[caverman]

Originally Posted by Ratt

Hold the phone here, are you saying I can put one on and forget about it? That’s the reason I haven’t pulled the trigger on one of these yet. The endless post’s I’ve read say that you have to clean them every time you change the oil. I can see cleaning it every 20,000 but if I don’t have to do it ever, I’ll take it.

Draining is different than cleaning. You drain them every time you change your oil....not clean them.

My RX can has a drain valve on the bottom of it. I use a coke can that is cut in half. Put it under there, unscrew, let it drain, then tighten the screw. Not much to it.

[VR Baron]

I have the RX can from my v6. Going on the SS. I intend to keep it along time and this will help in the long run.

[kiteman]

Originally Posted by SC2150

I just went back and read the OP's post, and no where is there any "research" listed to support the threads title, only the GM's opinion in the link......still waiting for someone to post how oil ingestion is "good" in any way...

that's because i posted GM's opinion for discussion only, period. one could say GM engineers post BS because they want your engine to eventually die so you buy a new car and/or pay them to fix your dead one. one could also make the argument that you support catch cans just to make another dollar. it goes both ways unfortunately.

Originally Posted by Never Satisfied

There have been multiple NON-VENDORS on here that have posted pics of the crap they remove from their cans between oil changes.

i've yet to see a picture in this thread of an intake that has a catch-can installed. where is the proof a catch-can stops all -or- stops just the toxic amount of oil build-up? you can post pictures of your catch-can all day with oil in it, but that doesn't mean other oil is not getting by the catch-can and having just as detrimental effects on your engine. again, this argument goes both ways.

i'm not here to prove anyone wrong, i posted so you guys prove me wrong. so far there is no physical evidence as i see it, it's just a bunch of hypotheses and pictures that for all i know could have come from engines that have already exploded for other reasons. i don't truly believe that, but let's see the insides of engines with catch-cans before we go off and tell the preacher jesus has returned.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by kiteman

that's because i posted GM's opinion for discussion only, period. one could say GM engineers post BS because they want your engine to eventually die so you buy a new car and/or pay them to fix your dead one. one could also make the argument that you support catch cans just to make another dollar. it goes both ways unfortunately.



i've yet to see a picture in this thread of an intake that has a catch-can installed. where is the proof a catch-can stops oil build-up? you can post pictures of your catch-can all day with oil in it, but that doesn't mean other oil is not getting by the catch-can and having just as detrimental effects on your engine. again, this argument goes both ways.

i'm not here to prove anyone wrong, i posted so you guys prove me wrong. so far there is no physical evidence as i see it, it's just a bunch of hypotheses and pictures that for all i know could have come from engines that have already exploded for other reasons. i don't truly believe that, but let's see the insides of engines with catch-cans before we go off and tell the preacher jesus has returned.

I've seen a few...but god knows where I'll find them, now....

You have to remember, too...it's going to depend on the catch-can...it has been proven they all vary in their effectiveness...

[McBeevee]

Originally Posted by kiteman

i've yet to see a picture in this thread of an intake that has a catch-can installed. where is the proof a catch-can stops oil build-up? you can post pictures of your catch-can all day with oil in it, but that doesn't mean other oil is not getting by the catch-can and having just as detrimental effects on your engine. again, this argument goes both ways.

i'm not here to prove anyone wrong, i posted so you guys prove me wrong. so far there is no physical evidence as i see it, it's just a bunch of hypotheses and pictures that for all i know could have come from engines that have already exploded for other reasons. i don't truly believe that, but let's see the insides of engines with catch-cans before we go off and tell the preacher jesus has returned.

So it's ok for you to come on here and make a bold statement such as yours with no evidence? The crap you posted from the so called expert is not proof either. I'm a "gm world class certified technician" too just look at my title

[MARINE1991]

Originally Posted by Never Satisfied

So it's ok for you to come on here and make a bold statement such as yours with no evidence? The crap you posted from the so called expert is not proof either. I'm a "gm world class certified technician" too just look at my title

I am also a world class..........

[MARINE1991]

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[EricSS]

Originally Posted by kiteman

that's because i posted GM's opinion for discussion only, period. one could say GM engineers post BS because they want your engine to eventually die so you buy a new car and/or pay them to fix your dead one. one could also make the argument that you support catch cans just to make another dollar. it goes both ways unfortunately.



i've yet to see a picture in this thread of an intake that has a catch-can installed. where is the proof a catch-can stops all -or- stops just the toxic amount of oil build-up? you can post pictures of your catch-can all day with oil in it, but that doesn't mean other oil is not getting by the catch-can and having just as detrimental effects on your engine. again, this argument goes both ways.

i'm not here to prove anyone wrong, i posted so you guys prove me wrong. so far there is no physical evidence as i see it, it's just a bunch of hypotheses and pictures that for all i know could have come from engines that have already exploded for other reasons. i don't truly believe that, but let's see the insides of engines with catch-cans before we go off and tell the preacher jesus has returned.

If you don't think catch cans work, don't buy one. It's that simple. I don't think anyone else here cares whether or not you decide to install one. Even if my catch can only caught 1/3 of the crap going into my intake, I'm still glad that 1/3 didn't make it in there and that's good enough for me. If it isn't for you, then you've good reason not to buy one. The horse is dead.

[Synner]

Obviously you guys didn't read his proof. Somewhere somebody who worked on a car has a computer and the hard drive in that computer has stuff on it. The research is air tight. Science be praised.

[EricSS]

Originally Posted by Synner

Obviously you guys didn't read his proof. Somewhere somebody who worked on a car has a computer and the hard drive in that computer has stuff on it. The research is air tight. Science be praised.

[SSGUNNER]

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[axis]

Originally Posted by kiteman

i'm not here to prove anyone wrong, i posted so you guys prove me wrong. so far there is no physical evidence as i see it, it's just a bunch of hypotheses and pictures that for all i know could have come from engines that have already exploded for other reasons. i don't truly believe that, but let's see the insides of engines with catch-cans before we go off and tell the preacher jesus has returned.

The problem is, you already have the idea that catchcans are worthless. What exactly are you looking for to change your mind? This car is only 2yrs old now so there's not many high mileage Camaro's compare to but CC's have been around for years and have caught more oil than you can imagine. You've shown absolutely no proof that they aren't any good, other than the word of a self proclaimed GM super tech. We've had at least one member is this thread show the oil that was trapped by his CC after just 1k miles. If you think they were all fabbing up pics just to get you to buy one, you are sadly mistaken. We could care less if you buy one or not. There's several dozen pics just like his scattered throughout this board. Did it catch 100% of the oil that was bound for his intake? Who really knows. I"ve seen pics of intakes with CC's installed and ones without. In all the cases that I can remember, the CC intake was significantly cleaner. Do you think oil doesn't build up in the intake? If you think any amount of oil in your intake isn't a problem, then a CC isn't for you. If you think, we think, we are getting HP from this, you're mistaken. This is PURELY a maintenance mod, just like changing your oil, oil filter, tranny fluid, rear end fluid, and air filter. I know guys that have never changed any of the previous fluids and guess what, their cars still run just fine, even after 100+k miles. Does that mean changing those fluids is just an attempt by the manufacturers to scam you out of $$?

[kiteman]

Originally Posted by EricSS

If you don't think catch cans work, don't buy one. It's that simple. I don't think anyone else here cares whether or not you decide to install one. Even if my catch can only caught 1/3 of the crap going into my intake, I'm still glad that 1/3 didn't make it in there and that's good enough for me. If it isn't for you, then you've good reason not to buy one. The horse is dead.

is it really that hard to show an LS1 engine with 100k miles on it that had a catch can installed for comparison? why am i a troll? that seems like a pretty fair question.

[PAUL SS]

I don't think they are worthless, as long as they collect this oil... http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182083