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Modern07 · 11-26-2011, 12:10 AM

There will be some improvements but not necessarily hp.

Take the SS, hp has not increased, yet, but 2011s got HUD, 2012s got suspension upgrade and Reverse Camera etc..

There will always be some improvements with each new model year, no manufacturer should ever just sit back and make no changes in case they upset the people who jumped in first

2012ZL1 · 11-26-2011, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Modern07

There will be some improvements but not necessarily hp.

Take the SS, hp has not increased, yet, but 2011s got HUD, 2012s got suspension upgrade and Reverse Camera etc..

There will always be some improvements with each new model year, no manufacturer should ever just sit back and make no changes in case they upset the people who jumped in first

True, there is always improvements year by year.

GM4lyfe · 11-26-2011, 12:27 AM

I wouldn't get your hopes up on GM increasing the hp on the ZL1. The ZL1 may have got more R&D than any other american car after the ZR1. GM knew what they was doing. The GT500 power has been going up every since it came out. There is allways be someone faster it just depends on how deep the pockets are.

leviticus88 · 11-26-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chemical

In my opinion you will see a similar change as we've seen for the v6 Camaros that went from 304 HP to 312. Nothing was changed except the car was certified at 312. So in reality they both have the same HP, one was just certified higher to compete on paper with the mustang..

ZL1 will go from 580 to 604 or something like that. But have no actual change, just certification.

Just my opinion of course.

I thought the LLT v6 was first and replaced with the LFX v6. They are different engines and especially with the casting of the heads and exhaust manifolds.

tooslow · 11-26-2011, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 2012ZL1

Its not all about HP, as others have made clear.
Throwing more HP at something is not a balanced program.

I agree with this completely and is why I don't think you'll see a bump in power for the ZL1 for the 2013 model year. Throwing more horsepower at the ZL1 would not make sense any more than it does for Ford to throw it at the GT500.

2011RS/SS · 11-26-2011, 04:28 PM

There is one simple solution to fix the issue without even modifying the lsa. GM can simply use the LS9 with a factory rating of 638hp to fix the issue.

Not everybody cares about having more factory hp than the rustang, but some people do. If I was GM, i would keep the LSA standard but for the HP junkies like myself, have a option that would put a LS9 in your ride. That would be badass

*DGthe3* · 11-26-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011RS/SS

There is one simple solution to fix the issue without even modifying the lsa. GM can simply use the LS9 with a factory rating of 638hp to fix the issue.

Not everybody cares about having more factory hp than the rustang, but some people do. If I was GM, i would keep the LSA standard but for the HP junkies like myself, have a option that would put a LS9 in your ride. That would be badass

One problem ... 650>638. It still won't have more power than the GT500

b4z · 11-26-2011, 06:07 PM

If Chevy gives the zl1 more power they will probably have to change the engine designation and specs because the ls9 has forged everything and the lsa does not. And at some hp point the engine internals are going to go and gm will have warranty claims.

HDRDTD · 11-26-2011, 06:14 PM

Do you really think GM had no idea Ford was going to announce a major HP increase for the GT500?
I would also believe that GM would not come out with a LSA for the ZL1 that was already maxed out on it's HP and Torque knowing the horsepower wars were in progress.

Have faith. I'm willing to bet that GM has something ready in their back pocket to counter anything Ford is ready to announce.

HEMI DAVE · 11-26-2011, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Wondering

There are no more diehard fans than Camaro or Mustang guys. I bet less than 1% of sales will be lost to whomever you consider the "other side" just because of track/strip numbers.

I agree, but some are gonna hold out for the inevitable power bump thats coming for the ZL1.....

HDRDTD · 11-26-2011, 06:18 PM

There will ALWAYS be a HP bump coming along. Which one do you wait for??

HEMI DAVE · 11-26-2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HDRDTD

There will ALWAYS be a HP bump coming along. Which one do you wait for??

I agree.......but if it comes in 2013 I would wait for that one

HDRDTD · 11-26-2011, 06:29 PM

And what happens if you wait for the 2013 bump, then there are rumors about another bump for 2014 ?
Or rumors about a Z28?
You'll drive yourself crazy always worrying about what will be new 'next' year.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 11-26-2011, 06:36 PM

Corvette has existed for 4 years, now with no HP bump...Camaro for 3. Why is it assumed there will be a HP increase on the ZL1, which remains-to-be-dethroned?

With all due respect to all....I think we are making something out of nothing...use caution with how far you take speculation...

11-26-2011, 12:27 AM	#87
GM4lyfe A GM nut-swinger! Drives: A Car Join Date: May 2009 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 262	I wouldn't get your hopes up on GM increasing the hp on the ZL1. The ZL1 may have got more R&D than any other american car after the ZR1. GM knew what they was doing. The GT500 power has been going up every since it came out. There is allways be someone faster it just depends on how deep the pockets are. __________________ 2004 GTO Quicksilver 2009 G8 Liquid Red 2005 CTS-V Black Raven

11-26-2011, 04:28 PM	#90
2011RS/SS Drives: 2016 corvette Z06 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 236	There is one simple solution to fix the issue without even modifying the lsa. GM can simply use the LS9 with a factory rating of 638hp to fix the issue. Not everybody cares about having more factory hp than the rustang, but some people do. If I was GM, i would keep the LSA standard but for the HP junkies like myself, have a option that would put a LS9 in your ride. That would be badass __________________ 2016 A8 Z06 CAI,E85,lower pulley 650rwhp/720tq

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Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,873 View My Garage	Corvette has existed for 4 years, now with no HP bump...Camaro for 3. Why is it assumed there will be a HP increase on the ZL1, which remains-to-be-dethroned? With all due respect to all....I think we are making something out of nothing...use caution with how far you take speculation... __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

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11-26-2011, 12:10 AM	#85
Modern07 Mid-Florida Camaro Club Drives: 2019 ZL1 on Order Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Heathrow, FL Posts: 3,136	There will be some improvements but not necessarily hp. Take the SS, hp has not increased, yet, but 2011s got HUD, 2012s got suspension upgrade and Reverse Camera etc.. There will always be some improvements with each new model year, no manufacturer should ever just sit back and make no changes in case they upset the people who jumped in first

11-26-2011, 06:07 PM	#92
b4z Drives: '06 Pontiac GTO M6, '19 F150 2.7TT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 1,424	If Chevy gives the zl1 more power they will probably have to change the engine designation and specs because the ls9 has forged everything and the lsa does not. And at some hp point the engine internals are going to go and gm will have warranty claims.

11-26-2011, 06:14 PM	#93
HDRDTD Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 Vert M6 ECF Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trenton, Michigan Posts: 7,046	Do you really think GM had no idea Ford was going to announce a major HP increase for the GT500? I would also believe that GM would not come out with a LSA for the ZL1 that was already maxed out on it's HP and Torque knowing the horsepower wars were in progress. Have faith. I'm willing to bet that GM has something ready in their back pocket to counter anything Ford is ready to announce.

11-26-2011, 06:18 PM	#95
HDRDTD Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 Vert M6 ECF Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trenton, Michigan Posts: 7,046	There will ALWAYS be a HP bump coming along. Which one do you wait for??

11-26-2011, 06:29 PM	#97
HDRDTD Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 Vert M6 ECF Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trenton, Michigan Posts: 7,046	And what happens if you wait for the 2013 bump, then there are rumors about another bump for 2014 ? Or rumors about a Z28? You'll drive yourself crazy always worrying about what will be new 'next' year.