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Old 03-19-2012, 04:47 PM   #15
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......and probably increased timing based on lower IATs from the meth.
Mainly increased Octane but yeah you get the drift.
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Old 03-19-2012, 05:34 PM   #16
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Just to be clear for some that may be confused....you can't just install Meth and your power go up.....the car was tuned for the increased octane.
lol you should tell that to people down here. All the 4cyl turbo guys think putting in water meth on stock turbos is an immediate 100hp bump.

They've invented nos water meth
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Old 03-19-2012, 10:30 PM   #17
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On my personal camaro i went from 637 to 745rwhp with meth and retune
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:03 PM   #18
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its all fun and games until the meth system malfuntions.
race gas on the street rules
True...but if your car is tuned right, it will run without it just fine.
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:08 PM   #19
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Safe advice: I ran meth on my 05 cummins and "saved" $50 by not getting the electronic isolation check valve from Snow Performance. I parked on a steep driveway and the meth gravity drained into the intake causing the cummins to hydro lock and bent a valve, cracked a piston, and then cracked the block. $13,000 later I had a new cummins crate engine.

By the isolation valve and wire it in! Crap happens.

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Old 03-20-2012, 08:35 AM   #20
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I just retuned for my meth system yesterday and got 30 rwhp and 30 lbs of torque extra. I added meth more for the IAT cooling factor than more power. The temps are 35 degrees lower and stay that way after multiple dyno pulls. I think it is a choice between max power and safety and I don't feel like doing a motor right now so I chose the safe route. There is no question that we could have gotten another 30-40 hp out of it if I wasnt concerned about keeping it safe. I would rather enjoy my car than visit my engine rebuilder.
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Old 03-21-2012, 01:09 AM   #21
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I just retuned for my meth system yesterday and got 30 rwhp and 30 lbs of torque extra. I added meth more for the IAT cooling factor than more power. The temps are 35 degrees lower and stay that way after multiple dyno pulls. I think it is a choice between max power and safety and I don't feel like doing a motor right now so I chose the safe route. There is no question that we could have gotten another 30-40 hp out of it if I wasnt concerned about keeping it safe. I would rather enjoy my car than visit my engine rebuilder.
And thats exactly my approach,But to each his own and if anybody would like to see pics of carnage from detonation just ask cause I've got'em
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:33 AM   #22
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Ok, guys i don't know what to go with nitrous or a meth system, I have heard bad stories on nitro system blowing up engines, how bought the meth system, I am kind of new to this. I would prefer to go with a meth system, also does it works like the nitro system where u activated only when you are going to race or is it on all the time for street driving, and does some thing bad happens if you ran out of meth?
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Old 04-02-2012, 03:27 AM   #23
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:50 AM   #24
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I have meth on my FI car, meth starts flowing at 3psi an is full out flowing at 5psi, not sure about NA rides


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Old 04-02-2012, 12:03 PM   #25
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Just got Mad Tunes Racing to install a meth kit on my 2010 L99 with an eforce and picked up 70 rear wheel horse power.
Congrats, I assure you I am not attacking you, but this thread is a bit misleading.

My question is how was your baseline so Low to begin with?

How much Gain was from the Tune, and How Much was From the Meth addition?

Did you also change a Pulley?

I just don't want guys to get the wrong Idea about meth systems, I have been using them for over 30 years and they do have they're Problems.

Gains like that are usually attributed to Other Factors.

On a Perfectly Tuned Car on Pump Gas, You can turn the Meth on and Lose Power back to back, it usually takes a smaller pulley and additional tuning to take advantage of the Meth system.

The Meth system alone can Not achieve these results.

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Congrats, I assure you I am not attacking you, but this thread is a bit misleading.

My question is how was your baseline so Low to begin with?

How much Gain was from the Tune, and How Much was From the Meth addition?

Did you also change a Pulley?

I just don't want guys to get the wrong Idea about meth systems, I have been using them for over 30 years and they do have they're Problems.

Gains like that are usually attributed to Other Factors.

On a Perfectly Tuned Car on Pump Gas, You can turn the Meth on and Lose Power back to back, it usually takes a smaller pulley and additional tuning to take advantage of the Meth system.

The Meth system alone can Not achieve these results.

Ted.

Good points, I am a bit confused though. I can see the water in the injection cooling the iats producing more power but how come everyone keeps saying that they dont believe meth should be used to produce more power as far as increasing boost and timing? If you didn't want to produce more power by making your car rely on the meth than wouldn't you just run water to decrease iats and produce slightly more power this way?
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Congrats, I assure you I am not attacking you, but this thread is a bit misleading.

My question is how was your baseline so Low to begin with?

Ted.
i agree, why was the baseline so low? it should have made atleast 480-490 on an L99 with that sc and headers
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Good points, I am a bit confused though. I can see the water in the injection cooling the iats producing more power but how come everyone keeps saying that they dont believe meth should be used to produce more power as far as increasing boost and timing? If you didn't want to produce more power by making your car rely on the meth than wouldn't you just run water to decrease iats and produce slightly more power this way?
Think of it this way if you pee on the fire you need to make a hotter fire to burn the pee.
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