Help on Narrowing down Subs and Few Install Questions

[jeepguy_1980]

My hesitations with the MS-8 are that it only takes a 2-channel input. Which means you lose fade control on your HU.

The other is that you need that touch screen controller in your car.

[darkrider01]

Originally Posted by jeepguy_1980

My hesitations with the MS-8 are that it only takes a 2-channel input. Which means you lose fade control on your HU.

The other is that you need that touch screen controller in your car.

I had similar reservations before I installed it. I could care less about the fade control now. Before the MS-8 I needed the fade control badly. With the MS-8 in now though, my stage is so good that I don't want to touch the fader. You can always use the fade control of the MS-8 if you need.

I'm not sure what you mean about a touch screen. The screen for the MS-8 is not a touch screen, nor does it need to remain connected to the MS-8 after tuning is complete. I have my screen disconnected. It is with the MS-8 remote in a pouch in my glove box (for any tweaking I may decide upon in the future). As a comparison, the Bit One has a remote screen as well.

[jeepguy_1980]

Originally Posted by darkrider01

I had similar reservations before I installed it. I could care less about the fade control now. Before the MS-8 I needed the fade control badly. With the MS-8 in now though, my stage is so good that I don't want to touch the fader. You can always use the fade control of the MS-8 if you need.

I'm not sure what you mean about a touch screen. The screen for the MS-8 is not a touch screen, nor does it need to remain connected to the MS-8 after tuning is complete. I have my screen disconnected. It is with the MS-8 remote in a pouch in my glove box (for any tweaking I may decide upon in the future). As a comparison, the Bit One has a remote screen as well.

So the only control you lost was fade? Do your tone controls work? Do you still have your factory HU?

[Agent WD-40]

Originally Posted by darkrider01

As far as processor goes, it's really up to you. I can only speak for myself, but I put a Scosche kit, Pioneer AVH-P8400BH, and a JBL MS-8 into my car this weekend. I listened to it briefly before hooking the MS-8 up and it sounded great. After connecting the MS-8 and running the setup, it went from great to heavenly. The front stage now is incredible. If I close my eyes, it sounds like the sound is coming from inside my head. It kinda messes with my mind. I only suggested the processor because I figured that if you're dropping $1k in speakers, you may want some time alignment and more than 3 EQ bands. I might would have been fine without the MS-8 (my Pioneer has 8-band adjustable EQ, Auto EQ, and some time alignment) but I wanted to be sure. I read a lot of good information about the unit, and it's a lot easier to install when you have everything else apart. I ran my MS-8 display cable into my glove box - couldn't find anywhere acceptable to mount the display.

You are making me want to get a processor now... Does it work with all of your factory controls or do you need to control it from the interface that came with the MS-8? I wouldn't want to give up the look and easy of the factory interface.

**EDIT** I should have read further down the thread. Looks like jeepguy_1980 and I have the similar concerns.

Originally Posted by darkrider01

I actually got my Dynamat from Amazon. Bulk pack (36 sq.ft.) for $140 shipped. Love me some Amazon

+1 - Amazon is the way to go for Dyanmat. Can beat the price and the free shipping doesn't hurt.

[darkrider01]

Originally Posted by jeepguy_1980

So the only control you lost was fade? Do your tone controls work? Do you still have your factory HU?

I still have fade control, I just use the MS-8 for fade control now. The MS-8 has adjustable fade.

I have removed my factory radio now and am using a Pioneer AVH-P8400BH as a head unit. I had reservations about changing the head as I thought the factory unit was pretty good. I am soo glad I have my Pioneer now. The bluetooth is 1000% better, among other things. In the end, I chose sound over aesthetics.

Originally Posted by Agent WD-40

You are making me want to get a processor now... Does it work with all of your factory controls or do you need to control it from the interface that came with the MS-8? I wouldn't want to give up the look and easy of the factory interface.

**EDIT** I should have read further down the thread. Looks like jeepguy_1980 and I have the similar concerns.

+1 - Amazon is the way to go for Dyanmat. Can beat the price and the free shipping doesn't hurt.

You must use the MS-8 display to control the MS-8. After you have the MS-8 set up, you can remove the display and store it away. You then use your head unit for volume. The MS-8 has tone controls, but I have a PEQ knob for my sub which is all I ever adjust now.

Maybe I'm just thick, but what is the big deal with the fade control? I understand it was needed before I put in the MS-8. My rears were either absent (before my old Clarion EQ) or overpowering (when I added a Clarion EQ). With the MS-8, they seem to stay just right (Clarion EQ gone). I haven't felt the need to change fade control at all since I put in the MS-8. Is fade something you guys are constantly changing? If so, what is causing you to need to adjust it so often?

[Agent WD-40]

Originally Posted by darkrider01

I still have fade control, I just use the MS-8 for fade control now. The MS-8 has adjustable fade.

I have removed my factory radio now and am using a Pioneer AVH-P8400BH as a head unit. I had reservations about changing the head as I thought the factory unit was pretty good. I am soo glad I have my Pioneer now. The bluetooth is 1000% better, among other things. In the end, I chose sound over aesthetics.



You must use the MS-8 display to control the MS-8. After you have the MS-8 set up, you can remove the display and store it away. You then use your head unit for volume. The MS-8 has tone controls, but I have a PEQ knob for my sub which is all I ever adjust now.

Maybe I'm just thick, but what is the big deal with the fade control? I understand it was needed before I put in the MS-8. My rears were either absent (before my old Clarion EQ) or overpowering (when I added a Clarion EQ). With the MS-8, they seem to stay just right (Clarion EQ gone). I haven't felt the need to change fade control at all since I put in the MS-8. Is fade something you guys are constantly changing? If so, what is causing you to need to adjust it so often?

Personally I don't care about the fader. I only run front components right now anyhow. If I used the MS8 I wanted to be able to hide it out of the way and have the volume function like stock. I didn't want to be stuck using a separate control panel to control the volume. This sounds like it isn't the case though so I probably need to start saving my pennies so I can get one.

[darkrider01]

Originally Posted by Agent WD-40

Personally I don't care about the fader. I only run front components right now anyhow. If I used the MS8 I wanted to be able to hide it out of the way and have the volume function like stock. I didn't want to be stuck using a separate control panel to control the volume. This sounds like it isn't the case though so I probably need to start saving my pennies so I can get one.

Yeah, I just set my MS-8 volume to max and use my head unit to control volume. I kinda want to rewire my fronts to two-way active, but I think my wife would kill me. She helped me install most everything, and she would scream if I told her I want to take it apart again.

I love my MS-8. I haven't done anything to mine except turn it off (defeat) to see how much difference it makes. I think that if I had bought it first instead of last, I might would have kept the factory speakers. Or maybe not.....lol.

[CamaroFTW]

Hey thanks for all the input on the signal processor. I have been studying this the last few days and have decided on the newly released Rockford Fosgate 3SIXTY.3
This thing looks really nice and easy to configure via laptop and it can be adjusted via iphone or android. I will probably switch to Rockford amps too since it has the intelligent control. I am really excited to try this out!

http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/News/....aspx?id=12836

[darkrider01]

Originally Posted by CamaroFTW

Hey thanks for all the input on the signal processor. I have been studying this the last few days and have decided on the newly released Rockford Fosgate 3SIXTY.3
This thing looks really nice and easy to configure via laptop and it can be adjusted via iphone or android. I will probably switch to Rockford amps too since it has the intelligent control. I am really excited to try this out!

http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/News/....aspx?id=12836

I was going to go with a 3Sixty.3 myself, but I think it will be a while before you see one anywhere for sale. Since Rockford introduced the 3Sixty.3 in January of 2011, and there have been very few demo units out to just a few shops, I think that it is doubtful we will see the actual units until late this year. I may sell my MS-8 when it comes out, but I really don't think that the 3Sixty.3 will be available for retail any time soon.

[CamaroFTW]

There are a few out there and more are supposed to be available starting tomorrow from what I read at a few places. Sonic has them SKU'd up and there is someone selling them on eBay already:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ROCKFORD...item43b1495233

[darkrider01]

Originally Posted by CamaroFTW

There are a few out there and more are supposed to be available starting tomorrow from what I read at a few places. Sonic has them SKU'd up and there is someone selling them on eBay already:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ROCKFORD...item43b1495233

Sonic has had it on their website for a couple of months, but the ebay link is very promising. I hope you're right about them becoming more available.

[darkrider01]

Originally Posted by darkrider01

Sonic has had it on their website for a couple of months, but the ebay link is very promising. I hope you're right about them becoming more available.

I couldn't resist. I just bought the one for sale on eBay. If I like it more than the MS-8, I'll keep it and sell the MS-8. If I end up liking the MS-8 better, I'll sell off the 3Sixty.3.

My wife seriously asked me "What is wrong with you? I thought you loved the MS-8 and it was perfect.."

[CamaroFTW]

Originally Posted by darkrider01

I couldn't resist. I just bought the one for sale on eBay. If I like it more than the MS-8, I'll keep it and sell the MS-8. If I end up liking the MS-8 better, I'll sell off the 3Sixty.3.

My wife seriously asked me "What is wrong with you? I thought you loved the MS-8 and it was perfect.."

LMFAO! cool, lets compare notes! I think it will be fun to play with. Thanks for having me look into this!

[CamaroFTW]

Originally Posted by darkrider01

I couldn't resist. I just bought the one for sale on eBay. If I like it more than the MS-8, I'll keep it and sell the MS-8. If I end up liking the MS-8 better, I'll sell off the 3Sixty.3.

My wife seriously asked me "What is wrong with you? I thought you loved the MS-8 and it was perfect.."

Should have waited a day and saved $50

http://pacificstereo.com/rockford-fo...FQgEnQodJg6QVA