Ed Peper confirms New Camaro engine to have 400+ HP V8 w. AFM and 300+ HP V6

[DGthe3]

I guess I didn't make myself particularly clear. Innovation is required, and if new methods of doing things aren't tried then things will never get better. When I talk about new ideas being more prone to failure, its in referance to tried and true methods vs new cutting edge methods. Im not saying we should move backwards.

The lighbulb was mentioned as an example, however it took countless attempts to get a bulb to burn more than a few hours, that is what Edison invented, a long lasting light. Someone else invented the actual electric light. Until Edison came along new technology was less reliable than the existing tech, oil lamps. Over time thorugh refinement we have bulbs lasting thousands upon thousands of hours.

I'm going to school for engineering and so I am all for innovation and change. But I am against using technology simply for technologys sake, it needs to clearly be better for me to like it. As I said, so long as an engine gives me what I want I'm happy and I don't care what the engine does to give me those things. Is that better?

[The_Stache]

You know, I keep reading that "400HP isn't all that much"... and I think to myself... What cars can I get brand new production for under 30k that have 400HP at the crank...

Hmmm thats right.. NONE.

That right there ends any arguements over the HP thing.

This thing is going to be a monster for the price, and LOOK good doing it!

[camarocrazy28]

Yes! V-6 Camaros will be spanking Mustangs! Maybe even GTs. And the SRT-8 better get outta the way of my V-8 Camaro!!

[smokn']

good point diarmadhi, but i sympathize with the other side to. it's all about getting ahead of the game. EVERYTHING anymore seems to be getting more and more ponies. and on top of that, it's great to have more ponies than the challenger, even if we could beat it with 400.

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by fastball

Yeah, I know what you mean...... Remember that Edison guy? That whole light bulb thing was a complete disaster. Should have just stuck with the good old reliable oil lamps.

.....

Hilarious All in good fun im sure. too funny

[91t/a]

i am a bit torn...400 +hp is plenty, dont get me wrong, but i was kinda hoping for the LS3. and the G8 should def NOT be getting a bigger and better engine than the Camaro!!!

[asrapid]

maybe is ls3 with 400 hp..i mean pontiac G8 GXp has 6.2l V8 and packs 402 Hp.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/15/n...-402-hp-and-a/

[91t/a]

[QUOTE

(and pay no attention when people start spouting off 'liters' -- )

Some of us are used to saying "327" and "350" and "427" and "396" - and when you ask us liters -- we tend to mix 'em up. (me included, of course....)[/QUOTE]

so this means there is still hope for the LS3...maybe he just mixed up the engine size!?

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by diarmadhi

You know, I keep reading that "400HP isn't all that much"... and I think to myself... What cars can I get brand new production for under 30k that have 400HP at the crank...

Hmmm thats right.. NONE.

That right there ends any arguements over the HP thing.

This thing is going to be a monster for the price, and LOOK good doing it!

You guys should all take note of this. He's right on the money.

I know some of you are used to cars that have been taken past the 400 mark, but out of the factory, none of you got that. This is a new muscle car age, and these numbers are just insane! 400 horsepower is going to be overwhelming to those of us who haven't rolled around in cars with that kind of power. Think about the first time you guys hopped into a performance machine long before you knew the difference between a clutch and a torque converter. When we open the door and seat ourselves behind the wheel, it won't matter that it isn't 500 horses. We'll be swatting the bitter competition on the street and on the track; at shows and in parking lots; on the block, at work, and when we invite our neighbors to our garages. Don't look at 400 and think you need more. You do need more. I need more, too. For now, just remember that there are some very powerful people who look back at Chevrolet history and know that it isn't about selling Uplanders to soccer moms and Cavaliers to 16-year-olds. They know that these machines are works of science and art, and they want to produce a masterpiece that challenges the laws of physics and the limitations of last year's machine. 400 horsepower for $30,000 is a freaking steal. Now bow down and thank that bowtie on whatever you drive now that something even better is coming because we're lucky to have a company that's paying so close attention to us that they won't settle for less than bruising the pride of every other performance brand in America.

[CamaroSpike23]

i still like my $200.00 car that i only spent about $45.00 to get it to 400 hp.






i filled the gas tank if ur wondering...lol

[stovt001]

Originally Posted by 91t/a

i am a bit torn...400 +hp is plenty, dont get me wrong, but i was kinda hoping for the LS3. and the G8 should def NOT be getting a bigger and better engine than the Camaro!!!

Why shouldn't the G8 get a bigger engine? It is a full size sedan, so it needs more power for the weight. The Camaro is going to be a relatively small coupe. Unlike the Challenger, it will not be a land yacht. Plus Pontiac is the excitement division. So why not give them more power? And who's to say the G8 will have more power or bigger and better engines? It has a 3.6L V6 making 250+ hp, a 6.0L V8 making 362, and a 6.2L V8 making 400 hp. We now know the Camaro will be getting a 300 hp V6 (better than the G8) and some V8 making 400 hp. We don't know if there will be another V8 above or below that, but right now you know you have two Camaros, one making more power than the base G8 and one matching the power of the top G8. Given that the Camaro is much smaller, I hardly see how you can complain, even if they G8 gets a "bigger" engine.

[2010_5thgen]

Originally Posted by diarmadhi

You know, I keep reading that "400HP isn't all that much"... and I think to myself... What cars can I get brand new production for under 30k that have 400HP at the crank...

Hmmm thats right.. NONE.

That right there ends any arguements over the HP thing.

This thing is going to be a monster for the price, and LOOK good doing it!

who said its under 30k? i know its going to be close to the mustang but we have no prices and no REAL info.

ok let me clear myself up. i am not one to keep a car stock and i try to get every bit of power out of my cars. my last 99 trans am had 450hp AT THE WHEELS. much different than 400 at the crank. the crank was easily putting over 500hp. my dads 05 vette doesnt even really impress me that much. i just feel that,for all this displacement,that we should be getting better numbers out of the cars. granted other mfg's are worse than gm (whats the viper a 8.0 v10 putting out ONLY500hp?) the zr1 is where its at and im glad chevy really got that car right. they need to pass on some power to the camaro. forget the old days and being scared of the camaro beating the vette. just do what feels GOOD!

[2010_5thgen]

Originally Posted by 91t/a

i am a bit torn...400 +hp is plenty, dont get me wrong, but i was kinda hoping for the LS3. and the G8 should def NOT be getting a bigger and better engine than the Camaro!!!

+1

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by 2010_5thgen

who said its under 30k? i know its going to be close to the mustang but we have no prices and no REAL info.

ok let me clear myself up. i am not one to keep a car stock and i try to get every bit of power out of my cars. my last 99 trans am had 450hp AT THE WHEELS. much different than 400 at the crank. the crank was easily putting over 500hp. my dads 05 vette doesnt even really impress me that much. i just feel that,for all this displacement,that we should be getting better numbers out of the cars. granted other mfg's are worse than gm (whats the viper a 8.0 v10 putting out ONLY500hp?) the zr1 is where its at and im glad chevy really got that car right. they need to pass on some power to the camaro. forget the old days and being scared of the camaro beating the vette. just do what feels GOOD!

Why bother following tradition if we're going to forget about the old days? Let's make the Camaro a 4x4 SUV and drop a 2.2 ECOTEC in the Corvette.

I'm sorry. I just think that the Corvette needs to be faster because it is Chevy's flagship. If we're going to have symbols around, we need them to mean something. We can't have Chevrolet's second tier muscle car passing the Corvette on the right. The Corvette is there for a reason. Besides, most of the car we buy as enthusiasts is the engine. The Corvette has a special place in Chevy's lineup, so it needs the top horsepower rating out of the factory. I promise you that the Camaro will be both underrated and easy to improve on the dyno. I expect a couple of companies to quickly release tuning that will get us another 15-25 horses out of whatever detuned motor we get. Plus, Magnaflow and Flowmaster will immediately release complete exhausts, K&N and AEM will hand us CAIs quickly, and we'll all be dying to see all the other stuff that comes out over time. I want 500 hp, too, but I refuse to pay for it out of the factory. The way GM is going to sell this Camaro in the 100,000 range is by beating the competition and fitting the competition's budget. If they beat the competition by 100 hp, they'll lose the budget part of the equation.