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*TAG UR IT* · 03-15-2008, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Emu the Foo

we do not get the LS3 tht we were promised.

First...no one from GM ever promised the LS3. We only speculated due to...agh...I could go on w/ tons of reasons. But, LS3 was most likely the engine to be used...priced same as LS1, is the (in a very respectalbe way) hand-me-down from the vette, etc, etc...

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Originally Posted by Beedlebrow

I would tend to agree with the performance aspect.
The looks leave something to be desired.
Looks like a grand am.

But yeah, I'm hoping no one takes me wrong.
I've owned a Camaro and a Nova.
I'm not anti chevy.
I am just hoping that the looks on this change a little more.
So, I never said I hated it, just that I wasn't diggin' it.
Hate is too strong a word for my opinion on it.

Never took you wrong and I hope no one else does either. Out of curiosity, have you seen the concept in person? It's

Emu the Foo · 03-15-2008, 03:34 AM

yeah good point. i was only the forums that would have "promised" the engine

JaysonAych · 03-15-2008, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 2KZ28_For_Now

PLEASE continue to pass along the profound, and heart-felt THANK YOU's to the team for all they have/are doing.

Yes, and let them know one of those heart-felt thank yous is coming from someone who once owned two complete garbage Oldsmobiles and swore he'd never buy another GM product again, and stood firmly by that for nearly a decade. A certain show car debut two years ago completely reversed all of that in an instant. So yes...keep up the excellent work

Kyle2k · 03-15-2008, 12:33 PM

I don't know if this has been stated, and I seriously doubt fbodfather would mislead us by telling us to forget about what we know about engines in suggesting an engine slated for production in the second or third model year run (Gen V). What I think he is telling is were getting something new the FIRST year. (please give me a yes or no on this fbod, no details necessary

) So, hopefully we can assume this is a revised 6L not just the L76, it could be the direct decendent of the LS1. I'm not good at naming GM engines so isnt the LS8 left over? lol. Anyways, its not like the L76 doesnt have potential if its retuned for performance anyways it is still a 6L after all.

rocketman 12 · 03-15-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tran

Here's another chop:

Attachment 4064

That's a beut, Tran. btw, those headlights look pretty sweet...

stovt001 · 03-15-2008, 04:24 PM

fbodfather, also remember what has been said by many people working on this car: it is impossible to please 100% of the people 100% of the time. Unfortunately, there are those people who think the world revolves around them, and if something doesn't fit the perfect picture they've created in their heads, they feel that they have been deeply wronged and that the producers are poo-poo heads who are just stupid jerks. There are also those who will never be pleased with anything. They exist to unconstructively criticize and complain 24/7. Nothing will ever be good enough, and they will let you know that in the harshest terms possible. These two types of people seem to make up the majority of most internet forum posters (not here though!) and they are loud about it too. Forget them. They're not the real buying public.

Beedlebrow, you seem to me to be one of those rare exceptions who can express dissatisfaction without sounding like one of those people I just mentioned. I can respect your opinion. Everyone has different taste, and what is beautiful to one person may just not do it for the next, and that is fine by me. Thank you for being the type of person who can respectfully disagree.

Beedlebrow · 03-15-2008, 05:05 PM

Thanks for the comment.
I am not one of those kneejerk responders with "Chevy sux" ,"Ford sux", etc.
I appreciate the cars for what they are.
I thought the first year Malibu was great, then quickly went downhill.
I was amazed when I compiled a list, just how many Chevy's I've owned.
The Camaro, Nova, Lumina, Tahoe, and my wife has the Colorado.
I was hesitent to immediately disclose that I drive a Mustang, as I figured there would be that faction that would immediately discount my opinion for that reason alone.
I am truly looking forward to this car being in production again.
I think the performance on these is going to be sick, but I was commenting on the looks.
There is a long time between now and it's actual release, and I'm sure we'll see some tweaks here and there.
And there is also the possibility that the more I look at it, the more I'll grow to like it.

I come in peace.

P.S. BTW, My wife sells Chevys. How could I be a hater?

COPO_Chevy · 03-16-2008, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by fbodfather

(esp. when you go to some of the sites where a lot of people say this car was the ugliest thing ever produced......of course, I won't comment on them -- or the fact that I'm PLEASED they'll buy a Challenger......)

wow how could anybody think such a beautiful car to be called ugly... still surprises me. :( but let them get there butts handed to them by our new and improved camaro

Beedlebrow · 03-16-2008, 02:13 PM

Looked over the pictures some more.
It's growing on me already.
I think I'm going to have to start saving for a SC so you guys don't hand me my ass so easily.

To answer an earlier question, no, I haven't seen it in person.
I would like to, but I don't expect to see one up here in podunk until after they are out there for the masses.

2010_5thgen · 03-16-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fbodfather

sorry -- but a lot of us are working long hours these days -- our passion is high -- and our tempers a bit short sometimes -- so we come off as a lil *strong* --

(esp. when you go to some of the sites where a lot of people say this car was the ugliest thing ever produced......of course, I won't comment on them -- or the fact that I'm PLEASED they'll buy a Challenger......)

their probably mustang guys.

Beedlebrow · 03-16-2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010_5thgen

their probably mustang guys.

Ouch.
That hurt.

2010_5thgen · 03-16-2008, 03:20 PM

mustang guys get a little jelious when they see that the camaro past and present are goingto put out more power and have better attributes than their beloved mustang. i know quite a few. by best friend is a mustang lover, and my girlfriends best friend and her husband a die hard mustang lovers but the only thing they have on the camaro and me, is " wheres your camaro at, oh yeah its not even made yet". gets kinda old but once i get it i know they arent going to say shit.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 03-16-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010_5thgen

gets kinda old but once i get it i know they arent going to say shit.

Sure they will!

They'll say: "Sh!t!"

Beedlebrow · 03-16-2008, 03:24 PM

I'm sure you hear that, I overhear it myself.
But it's a two way street.
Mustang owners get the same grief.
Fortunately not from everyone.
From what few posts I've read here, I haven't seen it as a typical response.
But it is the vocal minority that stands out, isn't it?

I own a Mustang, so I guess I'm a Mustang Guy.
But I don't believe I fall into the group you describe.
Heck, if my wife would let me, I'd own both.
It took a year to get her to agree I could get the Mustang, who knows how long (or what I'd have to do), before she'd allow me to get the Camaro.

As I've said before, I'm really looking forward to the Camaro being back in production.
So says the "Mustang Guy".

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03-15-2008, 12:33 PM	#284
Kyle2k LVL 50 Troll Stomper Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 3,463	I don't know if this has been stated, and I seriously doubt fbodfather would mislead us by telling us to forget about what we know about engines in suggesting an engine slated for production in the second or third model year run (Gen V). What I think he is telling is were getting something new the FIRST year. (please give me a yes or no on this fbod, no details necessary ) So, hopefully we can assume this is a revised 6L not just the L76, it could be the direct decendent of the LS1. I'm not good at naming GM engines so isnt the LS8 left over? lol. Anyways, its not like the L76 doesnt have potential if its retuned for performance anyways it is still a 6L after all.

03-15-2008, 04:24 PM	#286
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,810	fbodfather, also remember what has been said by many people working on this car: it is impossible to please 100% of the people 100% of the time. Unfortunately, there are those people who think the world revolves around them, and if something doesn't fit the perfect picture they've created in their heads, they feel that they have been deeply wronged and that the producers are poo-poo heads who are just stupid jerks. There are also those who will never be pleased with anything. They exist to unconstructively criticize and complain 24/7. Nothing will ever be good enough, and they will let you know that in the harshest terms possible. These two types of people seem to make up the majority of most internet forum posters (not here though!) and they are loud about it too. Forget them. They're not the real buying public. Beedlebrow, you seem to me to be one of those rare exceptions who can express dissatisfaction without sounding like one of those people I just mentioned. I can respect your opinion. Everyone has different taste, and what is beautiful to one person may just not do it for the next, and that is fine by me. Thank you for being the type of person who can respectfully disagree.

03-15-2008, 05:05 PM	#287
Beedlebrow Drives: '06 Mustang Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eureka Posts: 13	Thanks for the comment. I am not one of those kneejerk responders with "Chevy sux" ,"Ford sux", etc. I appreciate the cars for what they are. I thought the first year Malibu was great, then quickly went downhill. I was amazed when I compiled a list, just how many Chevy's I've owned. The Camaro, Nova, Lumina, Tahoe, and my wife has the Colorado. I was hesitent to immediately disclose that I drive a Mustang, as I figured there would be that faction that would immediately discount my opinion for that reason alone. I am truly looking forward to this car being in production again. I think the performance on these is going to be sick, but I was commenting on the looks. There is a long time between now and it's actual release, and I'm sure we'll see some tweaks here and there. And there is also the possibility that the more I look at it, the more I'll grow to like it. I come in peace. P.S. BTW, My wife sells Chevys. How could I be a hater?

03-16-2008, 02:13 PM	#289
Beedlebrow Drives: '06 Mustang Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eureka Posts: 13	Looked over the pictures some more. It's growing on me already. I think I'm going to have to start saving for a SC so you guys don't hand me my ass so easily. To answer an earlier question, no, I haven't seen it in person. I would like to, but I don't expect to see one up here in podunk until after they are out there for the masses.

03-16-2008, 03:24 PM	#294
Beedlebrow Drives: '06 Mustang Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eureka Posts: 13	I'm sure you hear that, I overhear it myself. But it's a two way street. Mustang owners get the same grief. Fortunately not from everyone. From what few posts I've read here, I haven't seen it as a typical response. But it is the vocal minority that stands out, isn't it? I own a Mustang, so I guess I'm a Mustang Guy. But I don't believe I fall into the group you describe. Heck, if my wife would let me, I'd own both. It took a year to get her to agree I could get the Mustang, who knows how long (or what I'd have to do), before she'd allow me to get the Camaro. As I've said before, I'm really looking forward to the Camaro being back in production. So says the "Mustang Guy".