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Old 09-28-2012, 10:11 AM   #57
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I special ordered the V4 in my 2012 LS, only problem I have had so far is the CHICK ENGINE light keeps coming on.
HA! That's a good one! When you fire it up, does is it make sort of a, "GRRRRRRRL!" sound?!?!?
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Old 09-28-2012, 10:38 AM   #58
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If it's for CAFE reasons, why does the Camaro have to be the sacrificial lamb, down-sized and down-powered?....Just call it a different car with a 4-banger....The best existing platform for this new engine would be the Corvette!...I'm sure the Vette community would embrace this idea with open arms as well.....lol
It has to be the sacrificial lamb because GM succumbed to Government handouts.

GM is most likely being lead around by the ear.

I'd like to think thats why a Cadillac symbol landed on a premier for a pro-communist film in China.
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Old 09-28-2012, 10:52 AM   #59
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6 of the old cylinders is just fine for me!
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Old 09-28-2012, 10:55 AM   #60
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I special ordered the V4 in my 2012 LS, only problem I have had so far is the CHICK ENGINE light keeps coming on.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:15 AM   #61
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Awesome, when gen six comes out we'll be able to race hondas and put those sweet fart cans on. Can't wait.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:27 AM   #62
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Visions of this keep coming to me when I hear 4 cylinder... I guess this will be the new 4-cyl CME...?

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Old 09-28-2012, 11:31 AM   #63
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The 6th Gen Camaro will be sold with a V8, a 6 and most likely a 4. There is no drama here.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:34 AM   #64
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Awesome, when gen six comes out we'll be able to race hondas and put those sweet fart cans on. Can't wait.
Yes, and instead of dirty looks, expect a "thumbs up"...lol
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:43 AM   #65
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Just remember folks, it's not GM you should be placing the blame on completely.

Your elected officials who make up insipid rules, like CAFE, are the ones you need to blame. GM is just trying to comply with laws that would impose serious fines on the company if they did not increase their corporate average fuel economy.

If CAFE did not exist we'd see 500-550 hp V8s in Camaros come off the assembly line with a sticker under $30k.

I remain with Bob Lutz on this one: forcing car companies to shove high fuel economy down buyer's throats by forcing them to make cars with high efficiency is akin to forcing Americans to loose weight by making it illegal to produce pants with an inseam no larger than 32 inches and shirts no bigger than large.

On the OTHER hand, this is an opportunity for GM to make engines like many European and Japanese companies already do. High reving, small efficient motors that still provide lots of power and performance. In some cases driving a high reving turbo charged 4 cylinder can be even more engaging than driving a low reving torque monster of a V8.
100% this ^^

I always enjoy reading people saying it will fail, it is stuipd etc... When really it is just following CAFE restrictions.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:45 AM   #66
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I wouldn't have one unless I could get it with a 3 speed on the column.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:50 AM   #67
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Say what you want, I had a Cobalt SS with a 2 liter LNF bolted & tuned pushing 360 whp and 405 wtq. (Dynojet) The 60-100 mph time was 4.4 sec. (3000 lb car) so I expect it will not be too shabby at 270 hp stock in a 3700 lb car. The newer version Buick has is an LHU, same basic DI turbo 4 banger. Twin scroll turbos have almost no lag. It's a rush to spin the tires at 60 in 3rd gear. lol.

My LS3 runs 5.8 sec 60-100 mph by comparison logged with HP Tuners. Both cars running 3rd gear pulls.
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:18 PM   #68
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Your elected officials who make up insipid rules, like CAFE, are the ones you need to blame. GM is just trying to comply with laws that would impose serious fines on the company if they did not increase their corporate average fuel economy.
I need to correct you on this point. These rules are made by regulators, not legislators. We vote for legislators and can influence their rules because they represent the people.

Regulators, on the other hand are not elected, and therefore do not answer to the people. They do whatever they want, and as they are wont to do, they often impose their own personal views and biases into the rules they make.

One of their personal biases is to latch onto scare tactics and fear mongering to make their own jobs seem important, and to shield themselves from popular opinions contrary to their rules. They tend to protect their own jobs by blowing issues way out of proportion and convincing people that we would all be dead if not for their rules.

We have no way of stopping them, so I have coined the phrase:

"Regulation without Representation"

The only thing we can fault GM for in these cases is for being spineless and going along with this nonsense. There used to be a time when they would fight these regulations, and they would sometimes win. Nowadays, they fold like a cheap tent when confronted by regulators.
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:21 PM   #69
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Four cylinder engines can be found in:Mercedes Benz SLK 250, BMW Z4/ 328i/ 528i, Audi TT/ A3/ A4/ A5/ A6... and under the hoods of Ferrari, Porsche, Jaguar, Lexus, and plenty of others...
I bet I could find a lot of these cars with casette players and 8-track tape players in them too. Does that mean we should go back to them and get rid of digital media and navigation units?
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:23 PM   #70
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It has to be the sacrificial lamb because GM succumbed to Government handouts.

GM is most likely being lead around by the ear.

I'd like to think thats why a Cadillac symbol landed on a premier for a pro-communist film in China.
By the way. I love your Handle and your Avatar.
Very cool!
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