Turbo LS3 Problem....

[MA2010SS]

It's not good that you are out $XXXX amount of money and time with the end product not living up to your expectations. Might be time to move on with another tuner or performance shop to fix the problem(s)

[MA2010SS]

Originally Posted by SS_Diaz

Unsure if that is the real issue, but no local shops had the wires i'm using at the moment in stock. So I had to order upgraded wires. Which will hopefully be in soon this week.

Check your plug where you are seeing the Arc, I just did a new engine on a car where I was getting an arc from one plug wire, replaced the plug wire and the arc was still there, closer inspection I found a slight pencil like line going down the plug and the arc was actually that line, the plug had a hairline crack, replaced the plug and no more arc. Just something else to look at

[SS_Diaz]

Originally Posted by MA2010SS

It's not good that you are out $XXXX amount of money and time with the end product not living up to your expectations. Might be time to move on with another tuner or performance shop to fix the problem(s)

Yup. I've already moved on and the whole process is in the works now.
How HPS even managed to be a vendor on this site blows my mind. Oh well, moving on.

[SS_Diaz]

Originally Posted by MA2010SS

Check your plug where you are seeing the Arc, I just did a new engine on a car where I was getting an arc from one plug wire, replaced the plug wire and the arc was still there, closer inspection I found a slight pencil like line going down the plug and the arc was actually that line, the plug had a hairline crack, replaced the plug and no more arc. Just something else to look at

Thanks for the help. I will be sure to pull all the plugs over this weekend and get my exhaust problem fixed

[CyberPredator]

Originally Posted by SS_Diaz

Unsure if that is the real issue, but no local shops had the wires i'm using at the moment in stock. So I had to order upgraded wires. Which will hopefully be in soon this week.

oh ok gotcha. good luck with everything

[partymn]

Originally Posted by SS_Diaz

Thanks for the help. I will be sure to pull all the plugs over this weekend and get my exhaust problem fixed

I have the same plug wires in the garage if you want to change it out to see if it makes a difference. Shoot me a text and we can get together on a time and place.

[crankpin]

How is a shop supposed to fix a slow start issue if they cant reproduce it when they have the car? First the Fastlane thread and now this one. $6k for a turbo kit is very cheap and you're very lucky not to have a few issues. Theres a reason Lingenfelter charges upwards of $20k for one of their packages....because they know they are going to have to fix every single little issue because the customers assumes absolute perfection. There probably isnt much profit in a $6k turbo kit that isnt 100% made of chinese junk so you have to expect to pay if injectors are upgraded for whatever reason.

[SS_Diaz]

Originally Posted by crankpin

How is a shop supposed to fix a slow start issue if they cant reproduce it when they have the car? First the Fastlane thread and now this one. $6k for a turbo kit is very cheap and you're very lucky not to have a few issues. Theres a reason Lingenfelter charges upwards of $20k for one of their packages....because they know they are going to have to fix every single little issue because the customers assumes absolute perfection. There probably isnt much profit in a $6k turbo kit that isnt 100% made of chinese junk so you have to expect to pay if injectors are upgraded for whatever reason.

Crankpin, I don't mean to come off rude but if you have been reading the thread, which i dont blame you for not reading all of it cause its long ass heck. But that is Chris's defense for not fixing my problem. He admits that the problem did happen. No it does not happen all the time but he knows exactly how to make it happen so he can troubleshoot the problem. I stayed at his shop with him for 8-9 hours straight and the problem was there. So he cant go around giving me and everybody that BULL excuse that he wasnt able to reproduce the problem. He knows that once you start the car in the morning, it usually doesnt happen after it was sitting overnight. But if you let the car cool down for 45 minutes to 1 hour the problem can easily be reproduced. CHRIS KNOWS THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats why i was at his shop for so freaking long. We had to wait for the car to relax for about an hour. So for him saying he was unable to reproduce the problem is just staright LIES!! Cause i sat there with him while it happened over and over again every hour!!! Yes it's time consuming cause you have to wait for the 45 minutes to an hour but dont be fooled by the LIES coming out of his mouth cause he knows exactly how to make the problem occur! He was even able to make the delayed start happen on his own while he was messing with the cranking table on his laptop while it was connected to my car. He could not figure out how to fix the problem so i guess his best bet was not to fix it and have someone else clean up his mess. He was too busy getting lunch in my car, leaving the receipts in the cup holder, then leaving me with my gas light on when i went to go pick up my car. Dont worry I will UPLOAD the pictures of the receipts from his lunch while i was out of the country and the pictures i took of my car as i picked it up with my fuel light on sitting in front of his shop. Some of you really dont believe my side of the story but how the heck can i make this stuff up. That is the sole reason i take pictures of everything and keep documentation. I'm sorry but he tried to screw over the wrong customer. I didnt see the fastlane thread but i will be sure to check it out after this. You are absolutely correct about you get what you pay for. I know this was a production kit and thats why i got it so cheap. But the whole thing about me purchasing injectors is just plain LIES. Like my other post stated, I was NEVERRRRRR told that i would be charged for the injectors. I know injectors are not free. Im on my second set of FIC injectors because he replaced the first set after thinking that was the problem and he replaced them for FREE. I was told he would order the ID850's to see if that would fix the problem and i told him i couldnt make it in the shop till about three weeks from when he told me cause im always out of the country. Thats the whole problem. He wants to get on here and make it seem like he told me this and that etccc... BUT NO HE DIDNT! I was never told to pay anything, not even the difference. So that's where everybody is getting confused and making it seem like its my fault.

[JB @ C and L Machine]

Hps... I know there is too sides to every story. In my fathers 44 years in business, he always told me I would never win an arguement with a customer. Do yourself a favor and quit posting while your behind!

[JLE58]

Originally Posted by SS_Diaz

No one mentioned the tune was changing..... ??

I know it's not changing that was why I said that. If it start fine and then intermittently doesn't then I'm confused how it can be the tune. I'd say there is a hardware problem somewhere.

[quincy speeder]

Didn't read the whole thread,just parts. From what I read it looks like a heat problem. Turbo kit's produce a ton of it and the heat hit's alot of parts/wires. You could very well have a short somewhere that the hot engine brings out.

I've learned a long time ago. The only shops that touch my cars are one's that can do 100% of the job. They have to be able to build it and tune it correctly. Then there is only 1 person to blame if there is problems. Been around a good part of this country moving with my job and have had my share of shaddy shops, even dealt with a few sponsors here. Sorry to hear about your problems, It doesn't sound like tune problems to me.

[mercedestech]

Doesn't really matter if it's a tune problem or not. Diaz paid for a properly functioning turbo kit and now has drive ability issues. Hps did 100% of the install and tune, so how is it not their responsibility to make it right. If there were any parts that may be needed to make the car drive as it should, that should have been brought to his attention before the build. This whole you have a modified car so deal with it attitude is shit. He paid for a product, as in he entered a contract for the shop to install a properly functioning and issue free turbo kit, and didn't get that. I'm sure if the shop would have said, yea we will install our kit and your on your own if it drives like shit, he would have went elsewhere.

[Turbo99]

Originally Posted by mercedestech

Doesn't really matter if it's a tune problem or not. Diaz paid for a properly functioning turbo kit and now has drive ability issues. Hps did 100% of the install and tune, so how is it not their responsibility to make it right. If there were any parts that may be needed to make the car drive as it should, that should have been brought to his attention before the build. This whole you have a modified car so deal with it attitude is shit. He paid for a product, as in he entered a contract for the shop to install a properly functioning and issue free turbo kit, and didn't get that. I'm sure if the shop would have said, yea well install our kit and your on your own if it drives like shit, he would have went elsewhere.

Memeber of the year quote right there!!!!

[dekan513]

so if i get u to install a turbo , i cant race it? huh guess no hps turbo for me
i would be pissed to, if i paid 100 bucks for it, it dont matter the shop agreed to put him in a turbo and tune it . its not his fault they didnt charge more. so get on with that bs. also with the heat soak thing , it should do it right after turning it off if that is the case not 45 mins later when if cools off. the tune can do alot more then alot of ppl think. but my money is still on the injectors, fuel is ur problem i think.