GM boycott by Rush Limbaugh /Hugh Hewitt

[Adam]

It's unfortunate that owning a camaro makes me part of a club filled with so much conservatism.

[Supermans]

Conservatives like Rush just want for America to remain free with as little influence from the Federal Government as possible. I am just in this thread pointing out the mis-information that is in the first post, that's all. This debate in this thread has remained civil and Adam, it is not unfortunate that the club is filled with conservatism just like it is not unfortunate there are progressive liberals in here as well. America is a free country and we can all choose to follow whatever path we want. We can choose to buy whatever house we want and at least for now whatever car we want.. Conservatives simply don't want that to change..

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Adam

It's unfortunate that owning a camaro makes me part of a club filled with so much conservatism.

Originally Posted by mikenmar

I'm getting a V6 Camaro that gets 29 mph highway, courtesy of direct-injection technology. My Camaro will likely get the same MPG as my 10-yr-old Honda Civic.

Let me know when you average 29 mph in that car.

[wullger]

I can't stand Rush! He just grates on my nerves, like O'Reily and Glen Beck.

But! (hear me out..) I hope that the RNC can find a bit more center-right candidate for their upcoming cycle. Obama appears to be left/center left, and I think having the two parties situated like that on the spectrum could make for a healthy balance. I really don't like for things to be ultra-liberal, or ultra-conservative. There is a place for a responsible opposition party in the U.S. right now, but unfortunately the RNC hasn't figured out where they stand after the last election yet. It'd be nice to take some ideas from the left, and some from the right, then hash out a middle ground in there somewhere.

[SSCamaroZ28]

Originally Posted by Liberty1

If you want Obama to succeed because you want this country to succeed; then you are an unfortunate patriot. I too am a patriot; but I love this country enough to know that we cannot survive under a socialist/keynesian system. If you truly are a patriot, then you must know how this country became the greatest country in the world. It was thru hard work; ingenuity; the entrepreneurial spirit; and the freedom to make your own decisions and choose your own life knowing there would be no one to help you if you failed. But that is the cost of freedom.

Any government will only act to destroy your liberties, whether you know it or not. And the most dangerous part of our current government is that it won't be obvious, nor will it be purposeful. It will be thru the intentions of creating jobs, eliminating poverty, protecting us from ourselves, and giving everyone an equal share of the pie. But the road to hell is paved with good intentions. And these good intentions sound even better with a charismatic leader, filling our ears with hope, and change, and equality, and fairness.

I believe Obama is a genuine person, who truly cares for this country, but the unintended consequences of his actions may destroy our country. Fortunately, if history is any evidence, Obama's policies will fail in the long run, but hopefully soon enough so that we may still reverse his actions and take our country back to what our Founding Fathers envisioned.

Truth, this guy speaks it. With a name like that you'd better!

[AngryAmish]

<---Dem
<---Buying a Camaro

On another note, I'm not going to buy the Rush is a victim stuff either. He, just like every other media outlet on the our soil and beyond twists more words then Oshawa plant workers twist screws. You reap what you sow.

My advice to everyone here is to buy whats right for YOU, not your political affiliation. Jesus Christ, it really saddens me that most of us as a nation spend the first half of our lives looking for ways to essentially "stick it to the man", then in the second half cowtow and hang on their every word. I highly doubt any of our countries' heroes where looking over their shoulders for answers like sheep looking for a herding dog.

F___ Rush
F___ Mike Moore

And quite frankly, F___ anyone who hangs on their words. If anything killed this country, its the political party system.

[PQ]

Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country.

We all know who said it. Where is the leader who will personify it?

For those of you that say it's allready getting better I feel bad for you. We will have no foundation when it 'gets better' under the current plan. We were able to print and borrow money this time which will make the impending depression very very very bad. When it could have just been very bad with a fresh solid foundation underneath us.

If a family gets into financial trouble the answer is not to take out 2 more credit cards to make things 'get better' because when those cards hit their limit, and they will, nobody will lend you any more money.What you do is stop spending and do without what you can to survive. And with sacrifice and strength you emerge solid. Our country has taken out the last amount of credit we have and we are not solid. Things are getting better? Ok, for now.

Accountability is a word that is merely an inconvenience to our Gov.

[phiz118]

Originally Posted by Adam

It's unfortunate that owning a camaro makes me part of a club filled with so much conservatism.

It's extremely fortunate that this forum is filled with intellegent people who can make choices for themselves. It is very unfortunate that people on both sides of the fence start hating a person because of their views in politics instead of hearing them out and intellegently debating the pros/cons. If you state that you hate conservatism, or liberalism then you are most likely drinking the koolaid instead of researching for yourself, and making informed decisions on specific topics.

[shookers]

Originally Posted by mikenmar

(1) Your job isn't at risk if GM fails, am I correct?

(2) You expect to take delivery of a Camaro soon, according to your signature. You're aware that you would never get this car if the govt hadn't intervened, right?

(3) Your theory of how economies and governments work may or may not be correct. But Obama is doing what is doing because the people elected him to do it. If they'd wanted a laissez-faire advocate like yourself, they would have voted for you. That's democracy.

Finally, I don't oppose your philosophy per se, and I admire your willingness to stick to your principles. But that is not what people like Limbaugh want. They want Obama to fail, no matter what he does. For them, it's personal. And mighty selfish.

Now I'm bowing out. I've said all I have to say on this topic.

Have a good day folks, and enjoy your Camaros (and your jobs).

America isn't a democracy - it's a republic. If Obama tried to do any of the things he is doing now, 100 years ago, the supreme court would have found 99% of his actions unconstitutional. Everything the founding fathers fought for is being trampled on. Democracy is not an inherently just concept - and to defend Obama's actions as such is equally incorrect.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by phiz118

It's extremely fortunate that this forum is filled with intellegent people who can make choices for themselves. It is very unfortunate that people on both sides of the fence start hating a person because of their views in politics instead of hearing them out and intellegently debating the pros/cons. If you state that you hate conservatism, or liberalism then you are most likely drinking the koolaid instead of researching for yourself, and making informed decisions on specific topics.

BTW, nice current car. Bonnies is the same.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by shookers

America isn't a democracy - it's a republic. If Obama tried to do any of the things he is doing now, 100 years ago, the supreme court would have found 99% of his actions unconstitutional. Everything the founding fathers fought for is being trampled on. Democracy is not an inherently just concept - and to defend Obama's actions as such is equally incorrect.

Shookers

But Obama isn't the biggest problem. He's just a court gesture that makes everybody feel good. Educated but ignorant. I can't blame him too much. I'm starting to believe that is what the president is supposed to be.

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by irpq11

Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country.

We all know who said it. Where is the leader who will personify it?

For those of you that say it's allready getting better I feel bad for you. We will have no foundation when it 'gets better' under the current plan. We were able to print and borrow money this time which will make the impending depression very very very bad. When it could have just been very bad with a fresh solid foundation underneath us.

If a family gets into financial trouble the answer is not to take out 2 more credit cards to make things 'get better' because when those cards hit their limit, and they will, nobody will lend you any more money.What you do is stop spending and do without what you can to survive. And with sacrifice and strength you emerge solid. Our country has taken out the last amount of credit we have and we are not solid. Things are getting better? Ok, for now.

Accountability is a word that is merely an inconvenience to our Gov.

I love your credit card analogy And the sad fact is, If I can't afford the Camaro and my credit card debt piles up...it will be a sad day but I will sell it until things improve financially for me even though I could get another credit card with a $30,000 limit and continue to pay it off. I'm almost there but so far I have high hopes I will find a job real soon ..

[tom_vilsack]

if rush is best gop can do...may as well just hand keys to comrade obama for 16 years (that includes comrade hillary too)

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by tom_vilsack

if rush is best gop can do...may as well just hand keys to comrade obama for 16 years (that includes comrade hillary too)

Rush is just an American citizen with a voice that is chosen to be heard by over 20 million Americans daily. And believe me if he was the voice of the GOP, then Mcain would have not been elected to run against Obama.