L99 People Answer Only.

[Scott@Bjorn3D]

Well I do not want to void the warranty since I can't afford to make payments and not have a warranty at this time. After 5 years yes I will do things that to it that will make it faster. Unless I win the lottery before then.

I am asking for the car GM told us about. There is no way my car is doing 0-60 in 4.7 seconds. I honestly doubt it is doing it in 6 seconds. I think some how the dumb downed the cars from the ones they did testing with for fuel economy or to try to make sure the cars would last the 5 year 100,000 mile warranty period.

My thought is this, I bought the car already, the EPA is not going to run in and check its performance. So get my car reprogrammed so it does what I was told it would do in all the months of waiting for it. I mean we were told it would be just as fast as the LS3 in 0-60 times and not that far behind in the 1/4 mile. That is all I want, if it was as quick as a LS3 I would of not lost to the Stang.

[Ject]

From what i've seen, headers and new exhaust really help the L99.... Especially if you do a tune and converter... that right there will wake the thing up big.

These engines love to breathe

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by Scott@Bjorn3D

Well I do not want to void the warranty since I can't afford to make payments and not have a warranty at this time. After 5 years yes I will do things that to it that will make it faster. Unless I win the lottery before then.

I am asking for the car GM told us about. There is no way my car is doing 0-60 in 4.7 seconds. I honestly doubt it is doing it in 6 seconds. I think some how the dumb downed the cars from the ones they did testing with for fuel economy or to try to make sure the cars would last the 5 year 100,000 mile warranty period.

My thought is this, I bought the car already, the EPA is not going to run in and check its performance. So get my car reprogrammed so it does what I was told it would do in all the months of waiting for it. I mean we were told it would be just as fast as the LS3 in 0-60 times and not that far behind in the 1/4 mile. That is all I want, if it was as quick as a LS3 I would of not lost to the Stang.

I can totally understand the "as advertised" argument and GM should as well, no matter who is in charge of it now. Scott "fbodfather" made a bid deal about the ambient lighting on the dash never being advertised so it was OK to not include it in the dash. I understand that only a video was posted on their website about a fully working ABL however it was shortly taken down as well as the rendered image that also showed full abl.

Of all the people on this forum upset about the lack of a full ABL, GM could at that point say (and Fbodfather did say on this forum) that ABL in the pamphlets was not fully specified to the fact that they have it only on the doors does "cover them" from any false advertising claims.. I don't see how GM can win this argument about the 0-60 or 0-100 performance times that have been advertised for many months and is still on their website. there was even a time that had the automatic a tick faster than the manual.

Scott, I'm hoping this issue does get resolved and if it is just a simple flash of the computer to allow the torque to be opened up at the press of the pedal, then it should be done immediately. Your warranty covers a full power train replacement if it is not working properly.. If GM or the dealer tells you that your SS is supposed to be like this, you can show them the advertised performance numbers and what you're getting.. In a small claims court, you would win every day, even against the Government since Obama did say he would honor all warranty..So you are covered.. And in this case, knowing who you know should get you a resolution faster than anyone else and hopefully be a longterm solution for everyone who pre-ordered a V8 Automatic SS and isn't happy with the speed of the vehicle.

Originally Posted by Ject

From what i've seen, headers and new exhaust really help the L99.... Especially if you do a tune and converter... that right there will wake the thing up big.

These engines love to breathe

if it is just headers, exhaust and a tune, Scott should not have to be the one to front the cost of this with labor in order to get the car running as advertised..

[9c1ny]

sounds like something is up, my pulls to 60 like a freight train, it has to be sub 5 seconds

[Restroom]

Aww, Scott, you're breaking my heart here! Not by a Mustang! You know, I think I'm starting to be in the same boat, except I haven't been able to find a car yet. The L99 is docile, the engine and trans tunes are aggressively limiting, the car has no sound stock, and it's thirty-seven grand. You know what else I could do with that much money? No, not a Chally, or a Ford, or an anything off the showroom floor - I could grab an old Dart or a Satellite and throw a new everything into it including a 528 crate Hemi and paint it whatever colour I wanted. Or a 572 in a repro '68 or '69 Camaro, or an AE427 in a Vette. There's a lot of fun ways to suck the paint off of anyone who comes up beside you, and I keep hearing that the L99 just isn't one of them.

It's not like I can get modern conveniences like nav stock anyhow. The bloom is off the rose for me already.

[ChevyBoiSS]

I am really really, disappointed to hear this, and to say the worst, I actually stopped in to see an All black New 2010 Mustang GT and was very impressed just by the Exterior!

[rpepka]

I am in complete agreement, my L99 is getting beat by my sons 2000 Trans Am automatic (non WS6). I sold my 2005 GTO to get this car. It supposed to be faster then the GTO but in reality it is slower and yes very disappointing. I took it to my dealer and they said everything is working fine. They said I could take it to a dyno and bring the results back and they would look into it further. Who has the time? I don’t have a dyno around the corner ya know!

[rpepka]

Originally Posted by erasedgod

You guys keep talking about fuel mileage, but I'm getting about 14.5 mpg with conservative, mostly freeway driving. I can't imagine it could be much worse. My Trans Am got 20+ with the same driving.

More on topic, I'm happy with the performance of the car, but I haven't tried to race anyone. Just hit 800 miles.

Yes, my 2005 GTO got 17.5mpg and I beat the crap out of it! My L99 is getting 14.5mpg.

[SScattergunSS]

I'm going to throw this out there, for what it's worth.

Initially, I was taking it really easy, doing the whole break in thing. BUT, the guys at the dealership told me NOT to take it too easy on it. In fact, they said drive it like you're going to want it to drive. The reason behind this has to do with the learning curve of the computer(s). The car LEARNS how YOU drive, and adjusts itself accordingly. While I haven't gone all out etc.. The fact is, I am DRIVIN' it now! So far, this thing feels strong. I might add, I'm driving simultaneously in Sport and Competitive Modes, almost all the time!

[SGOS252382]

Originally Posted by SScattergunSS

I'm going to throw this out there, for what it's worth.

Initially, I was taking it really easy, doing the whole break in thing. BUT, the guys at the dealership told me NOT to take it too easy on it. In fact, they said drive it like you're going to want it to drive. The reason behind this has to do with the learning curve of the computer(s). The car LEARNS how YOU drive, and adjusts itself accordingly. While I haven't gone all out etc.. The fact is, I am DRIVIN' it now! So far, this thing feels strong. I might add, I'm driving simultaneously in Sport and Competitive Modes, almost all the time!

There could be something to this. I've been driving my car pretty hard from the first second I got in it (6 miles). I don't abuse it, but I've been mashing the gas to the floor and letting her run.
I can't wait for the weather to cool down to get her to the track to see if its all in my mind or if my A6 is really as fast as I think it is.

It definately discouraging hearing all these stories about very slow running A6.
Some of the track times I've been hearing about are slower than what you'd expect from the V6 Camaro.

[MuscleCarz]

Originally Posted by SScattergunSS

I'm going to throw this out there, for what it's worth.

Initially, I was taking it really easy, doing the whole break in thing. BUT, the guys at the dealership told me NOT to take it too easy on it. In fact, they said drive it like you're going to want it to drive. The reason behind this has to do with the learning curve of the computer(s). The car LEARNS how YOU drive, and adjusts itself accordingly. While I haven't gone all out etc.. The fact is, I am DRIVIN' it now! So far, this thing feels strong. I might add, I'm driving simultaneously in Sport and Competitive Modes, almost all the time!

You don't want the computer thinking Grandma is tooling around in her SS.

I'm not familiar with Chevy's adaptive learning system but you could unhook the battery for a day/few hours and see if the learning resets itself. Then, let the car know how you want it to perform.

Worth a try, I guess.

[ls2gto]

Back in March, Motor Trend got 0-60 in 4.6 for the L99 A6 and 4.7 for the LS3 in 33 degree weather:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html

Obviously, those were preproduction cars.

I know heat soak is a problem with the LS2 in my 05 GTO A4. However, in the winter, with 18k miles on the tires, but plenty of tread left, it will not even hook in 1st gear under full throttle on a cold day.

That being said, Pontiac advertised 0-60 in 4.6 for the GTO A4 and I have no doubt it can do that under the right conditions. It feels much quicker that my 99 SS LS1 M6, which was supposedly good for 5.2.

Anyway, this is a bummer. Maybe I should buy a left over G8 GXP A6 with the LS3.

[mlee]

Guys... this is not exclusive to L99. LS3s were running the EXACT same times as L99 at the track last night. I'm sure that mustang had a couple of mods under the hood or she probably wouldn't have tried. If you had spun the tires she would have beaten you even more...

I'm confused about the spin tire thing The only place you want this to happen is before the race to heat up the tires. Hold the brake and let her rip... if your foot is off the brake then you definitely don't want to spin.

[ChevyBoiSS]

So what are the actual times you guys are getting 0-60?? And are you guys heavy track guys or is it so noticable were getting beat on the street? I dont want to drop 36-37k in a brand new camaro SS and get beat by some lame 04 Mustang GT. That would make me return that thing!