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Old 11-07-2015, 10:47 AM   #113
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Wow. Those dropped in value quick. Feel sorry for those that paid over sticker. Those that are hoping for some collectible value will have to wait decades for that to happen. Look at the 1995 ZR1's (even more rare than the Z28's) to see what 'values' may be in 20 years. That is if you can keep the miles below 5K. The only car in the modern muscle era that seems to have bucked this trend is the GNX.

They made over 10,000 C4 ZR1s, how is that more rare than ~1,800 Z/28s?
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Old 11-07-2015, 10:51 AM   #114
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I assume you meant to say "All the Z/28s made since then we're just badges until the 5th Gen", but just forgot the last part?
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Old 11-07-2015, 11:15 AM   #115
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They made over 10,000 C4 ZR1s, how is that more rare than ~1,800 Z/28s?
As this is all just a speculation discussion here, numbers alone don't mean much. Emotions about nostalgia (or lust) has to play into it somewhere in order to make the desirability part work.

Rare does not always equate to desirability. Again, they made a gajillion 1st gen Camaros that are selling for 10X or more what they stickered for on a bad day if they're in good shape, and they don't even have to be a Z/28. I just don't think its likely one could get $750,000 for a 5th gen in 50 years.

Again, you MUST account for the cost of upkeep as well, which isn't cheap to ensure the car stays pristine.

Will a Z/28 hold better values down the road? If history has anything to say about it, yes. Be investment value? Perhaps. We can hope, but jury's still out at this point. It's all new and shiny now, but what will we be seeing 5-10 years from now from Camaro?

Fun discussion, though.
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Old 11-07-2015, 11:16 AM   #116
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As this is all just a speculation discussion here, numbers alone don't mean much. Emotions about nostalgia (or lust) has to play into it somewhere in order to make the desirability part work.

Rare does not always equate to desirability. Again, they made a gajillion 1st gen Camaros that are selling for 10X or more what they stickered for on a bad day if they're in good shape, and they don't even have to be a Z/28. I just don't think its likely one could get $750,000 for a 5th gen in 50 years.

Again, you MUST account for the cost of upkeep as well, which isn't cheap to ensure the car stays pristine.

Will a Z/28 hold better values down the road? If history has anything to say about it, yes. Be investment value? Perhaps. We can hope, but jury's still out at this point. It's all new and shiny now, but what will we be seeing 5-10 years from now from Camaro?

Fun discussion, though.

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Old 11-07-2015, 01:36 PM   #117
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Old 11-07-2015, 04:00 PM   #118
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They made over 10,000 C4 ZR1s, how is that more rare than ~1,800 Z/28s?
Sorry looked at the last two production years. Corrected, but you quoted me within seconds of my miss post. Sadly the Z28 is just not a collectible car unless you mothball one for the next 30 years......kinda defeats the purpose though of buying a track car.

The good news is that they're starting to get priced correctly so those buying them now will have a lot less depreciation over the next 2 years. I picked up a brand new CTS-V at $23k off sticker. Makes trade-in time much better.
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Old 11-07-2015, 05:54 PM   #119
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Old 11-07-2015, 06:17 PM   #120
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The trend with nearly any performance model debut is it's successor usually means depreciation of the previous model.

I can't name a single car that hasn't followed this trend! Unless they stop production or it's truly limited production model (less than 500 units) you shouldn't ever bank on a vehicle appreciating in less than 20 yrs.

With that said I'd consider getting a Z/28 at that price point just because I could.
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Old 11-08-2015, 12:49 AM   #122
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There are some awesome deals to be had for sure.

Looks like the ones over in Greenville, TX (east of Dallas) at Britain. I probably would have the Z28 in the garage at that price if it was red.

Bought a truck from them earlier in the year. Great price and great to deal with.
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Old 11-10-2015, 05:02 PM   #123
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I live in Manhattan and have a 2013 Corvette Grand Sport. I drive the car approximately 3500 miles per year, typically on dry Saturdays, Manhattan to Long Island and back, all four seasons. I have lived in the City and driven this way since 1982 with a '77 Firebird, '88 IROC Z, '01 Mustang Bullitt, '04 Corvette Coupe and now with my '13 Grand Sport.

Can I do this with a new Z28? No track days, just a simple cruise from the City, to friends or the beach on Long Island and back to the City, on dry days only, all four seasons, in a visceral, nasty car.

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Old 11-10-2015, 05:29 PM   #124
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Old 11-10-2015, 05:47 PM   #125
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I live in Manhattan and have a 2013 Corvette Grand Sport. I drive the car approximately 3500 miles per year, typically on dry Saturdays, Manhattan to Long Island and back, all four seasons. I have lived in the City and driven this way since 1982 with a '77 Firebird, '88 IROC Z, '01 Mustang Bullitt, '04 Corvette Coupe and now with my '13 Grand Sport.

Can I do this with a new Z28? No track days, just a simple cruise from the City, to friends or the beach on Long Island and back to the City, on dry days only, all four seasons, in a visceral, nasty car.

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Absolutely. The talk about bad street manners is way overblown. I would consider losing the Trofeos if you want to do winter driving. Otherwise, in this Z/28 owner's opinion, the car is perfect for that mission - but only if you don't mind talking and taking pictures at every stop...
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Absolutely. The talk about bad street manners is way overblown. I would consider losing the Trofeos if you want to do winter driving. Otherwise, in this Z/28 owner's opinion, the car is perfect for that mission - but only if you don't mind talking and taking pictures at every stop...
That's what I like to hear.

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