z-28 or SS

[carsismeZ06]

Originally Posted by cactus_man

I love it that everyone is thinking that the base V-8 will have over 400 hp. Very exciting!

woah, woah, woah. Do you know something we don't?

[carsismeZ06]

Originally Posted by BitchinCamaro

I don't know who said it first, but I subscribe to "Any Chevy can be an SS, but only a Camaro can be a Z/28"

I think discoteka said that first.

[radz28]

Meh, IMHO, the SS of the 4th. Gen. was more an afterthought than anything. Were it not for SLP developing the Firehawk, and then applying it to a Z28 to make it an SS, there wouldn't have been an SS IMO. Now, I'm not saying the SS was worthless, however, it is well known than Z28 and SS really made about the same power; Z28 was just way underrated. The SS really only changed the hood, spoiler, and wheels (you could also order a shifter, differential, lubricant package, and suspension packages and in the last few months of production could get a high-flow air lid.) Let me put it to numbers: I've read many articles that dyno' tested Z28s that made 300+ rear wheel horsepower. GM only rated them up to 310 horsepower in the last couple years. Typically, if a car were rated a 310 horsepower, only about 270 or-so would make it to the wheels for the most part.

My point is, although I certainly wouldn't mind an SS being tops, I think Z28 is more identifiable with Camaro than Z28, for just the reasons already stated. When a person hears Z28, they think Camaro (along with gold chains, a mullet, and tatoos.) Regardless, as long as we have both and we can have good differentiation between the models (and they not only be a different hood, spoiler, and wheels) I'd be super happy.

We'll see in a few months how this all pans out

[Txturbo]

Originally Posted by 35th02ss

Alot of people forget what the SS was in the 60's. It was an apperance package more or less. You could get a v-6 mailibu SS. You don't see them that much, but it was possible.

A V6 Malibu SS? I think you mean Inline 6. A 4 cylinder was also available in 63 or 64 in the Malibu,but I don't know if you could get the SS option with the 4 cylinder. The SS package was mainly a sporty looking appearance option in the early to mid 60's. You got bucket seats and a console with some gauges and emblems. It didn't become an actual model until 67 on the Impala SS427 when you actually got some performance goodies along with the emblems and appearance items. I have seen some 65-66 Impala Super Sports with an Inline 6/auto.

[odie23]

My idea, drop the up-market aspirations of the Z28. Use the Z28 NOW, and let the marketing department come up with a new up-market designation. It only took the Corvette two decades and a couple of Lemans wins to do it.

[cactus_man]

If it was up to me the line up would look a lot like...

V6; with LS and LT trims; as well as an RS apperence package

V8; Z28 with LS3 and over 410 hp; with a SS comming for 2011 with the LSA inside it.

[diddiyo]

I'm german. I wouldn't want a car that has a huge "SS" badge on the grille for obvious reasons...

anybody knows if they are also selling the "SS" cars over in germany or if they get different names?

[MerlinZero]

As I've always understood it. The SS line is dubbed for Chevy's performance cars. the Z car series are specially made for gear heads.

This is why you have the Z series, even if they all weren't too spectacular.
Z06
Z24
Z26
Z28
Z34
Z51
Z72

All are/were cars that were their model, but taken to the extreme edge. Yeah yeah the Z24 was a Cavalier, but it was still a cavalier that looked good and performed better then expected.

I still miss my Z34 Beretta :(

Diddi last i heard the Europe version might not even be branded as a Chevy, since the Chevy badge has kind of a "budget" standing over there. I heard it will probably come out as the new Marano, OR come out as just the Camaro, maybe un a GMC badge, not sure.

[radz28]

If I remember right, back in my dealership days, and RPO code understanding, it seemed to me that Z-designations almost always represented performance oriented - Z28, Z71, Z66, etc. GM's RPO codes, to me, seemed to always remain pretty consistant, carline to carline.

[cactus_man]

I thought that "Z" was more of a suspension package. Z66 Alalanch on road suspension; Z34 Cavilier sporty suspension; Z71 is pretty much skidplates and new shocks; Z51 Corvette suspension.

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by cactus_man

I thought that "Z" was more of a suspension package. Z66 Alalanch on road suspension; Z34 Cavilier sporty suspension; Z71 is pretty much skidplates and new shocks; Z51 Corvette suspension.

for got one Z06. . .but it's not just a suspension upgrade it's also a power upgrade.

[cactus_man]

Very true, I failed to mention Z06. But if I am not mistaken, wasn't the modren Z06 named after a option in the C2 or early C3 generation?

[wildpaws]

Originally Posted by 35th02ss

Alot of people forget what the SS was in the 60's. It was an apperance package more or less. You could get a v-6 mailibu SS. You don't see them that much, but it was possible.

Aside from the V6 remark (since there were no V6 engines in Chevy in the '60s), I don't recall ever seeing a Malibu SS that was not a V8 and I saw plenty of them from '65-'70. The first SS I ever remember seeing was a '62 Impala SS, 327cid with 3 two barrels from the factory when I was 13.
Clyde

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by cactus_man

From reading a lot of posts I hear people saying the z-28 will/might have more preformence than the SS. Many saying the SS will have the LS3 and the Z-28 would have the CTS-V's new motor. Am I wrong or has an SS always been the top option in years it has been availble?

There is no evidence of a production Z28 at all. There is limited evidence of a high-performance Camaro. At release, there will not be 2 V8s. That does not mean a Z28 will not make production. It only means that a Z28 has not been leaked or mentioned by GM. Moreover, there is not enough evidence to conclude that the Z28 is superior to the SS in the fifth generation of the Camaro. In the past, that has been the case, but there is not proof that a Z28 will outperform the SS.