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*CamaroSpike23* · 03-20-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PoleCat2SSRS2010

OH gee Spike, Do you really use that thing? C'mon, really?

only to see the look of disappointment on my opponents faces

*Mr. Wyndham* · 03-20-2009, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by StarkyLuv

Pretty much every review of the 2010 Camaro has the same two gripes. One is the "cheap plastic" interior. I'm not really trippin' over that. The one consistent gripe is the poor visibility from the cockpit. One says that rearview mirror is practically useless. Another said that your view out the windshield is like looking through a mail slot.

Am I the only one here concerned about it? I know we have to wait to actually experience and get accustomed to it, but since it a near-universal complaint, I'm curious as to others' opinions.

First of all, it's important to understand that visibility will vary from person to person. You really do have to sit in it.

I can tell you when I sat in it...I #1; did NOT feel claustrophobic like a few reviewers stated. and #2; I felt I could see very well in all directions. Visibility IS limiting, however...meaning less than 'average', so perhaps we'll have to be a little more careful. But with 400 hp, you're going to have to be careful anyways.

Then, my second point. They sacrificed improved visibility for exterior styling. That's the absolute bottom line. If you wanted the Camaro to look like the concept...then those C-pillars had to stay nice and thick, etc...

*Camaro_Corvette* · 03-20-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Txturbo

Blind spots can easily be dealt with by pushing hard on the right floor pedal just prior to changing lanes.

Only to find out that the guy passing you is driving a Veyron..

Mr Twisty · 03-20-2009, 09:48 PM

Good visibility...All I can think of is...Popemobile

Mr_Draco · 03-20-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by StarkyLuv

But the view I'm MOST concerned with is over the shoulder. It seems that it's useless looking over your shoulder and you have to use the side mirrors. I'm accustomed to looking over my shoulder (especially on the passenger side) since in Maryland, passing on the right is a sadly common driving technique.

It's not useless, you just have to turn more then you're most likely accustomed too. I've driven my dad's Charger and they are down right terrible and to me the Chargers is worse then the Camaros. I would go test drive a Charger and get a feeling for it if you're worried.

PoleCat2SSRS2010 · 03-20-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

Good visibility...All I can think of is...Popemobile

There is always still the AMC Pacer............

fldrummer · 03-20-2009, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by camaro_corvette

Only to find out that the guy passing you is driving a Veyron..

Awww, ****. Now you got us! At least here in So-Fla or So-Cal. However, I have yet to see a Veyron around here, but there are plenty of Ferraris & Lambos to go around.

DDustiNN · 03-20-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lrc250

Follow this simple procedure and you will have no issues with blind spots. I have use this technique for years and it works great, no need to look over your shoulder.

http://www.linquist.net/motorsports/tech/mirrors/

This is great! Thank you!!

oldtransam · 03-20-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PoleCat2SSRS2010

In comparison to some of the other pony cars, just try one and you'll see. The Camaro is minor. If you check out the new Mustang with the aftermarket panels on the rear quater windows that make it look better(?) I am pretty sure you can hide a football field in that blind spot. My old car camaflouged 18 wheelers but I learned to adapt.

Right... but Ford doesn't make you live with those panels (I see very few that have them). And without them, you can see out of a Mustang pretty well. And you can see out of a BMW M3 just fine, too.

I know a lot of you guys think lousy vision is "part of it being a Camaro", and you're right. But it still surprises me that GM let this happen. A couple years ago whoever was running the Camaro program at the time (forgot his name) made a comment in an interview that the reason the 4th gen Camaro had been so badly outsold by the Mustang was that it was a pain to live with as a daily driver.

And here we go again...

Xanthos · 03-20-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PoleCat2SSRS2010

In comparison to some of the other pony cars, just try one and you'll see. The Camaro is minor. If you check out the new Mustang with the aftermarket panels on the rear quater windows that make it look better(?) I am pretty sure you can hide a football field in that blind spot. My old car camaflouged 18 wheelers but I learned to adapt.

Hell, you can't really see out of those windows anyway. I test drove a mustang and it was horrible. When I sat in the camaro it wasn't nearly as bad, and I didn't even have the seat adjusted right.
- Xanthos

Riderover40 · 03-20-2009, 11:15 PM

What they said! You will not get all around visibilty in any car but when you got to the low profile , beefy statured muscle car like our new Camaro with the peep windows you will gain bild spots.....common on the previous Camaro I had but in short time I adjusted and you will too. I bet that the pleasure we are going to get out of these Chevy masterpieces will outweigh the extra stretch you will have to bear to see the blind spot........ bring on my 2SS ABM Manual RS with 380ish hp at the rears !!!

Ugolino · 03-20-2009, 11:46 PM

I always laugh at the "plastic interior" comments from reviewers...what else are you going to make the interior out of? Wood? Metal? All car interiors are made of plastic, unless you want to spend over a hundred grand on leather-covered plastic such as in a Ferrari or Bentley.

Number 3 · 03-20-2009, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugolino

I always laugh at the "plastic interior" comments from reviewers...what else are you going to make the interior out of? Wood? Metal? All car interiors are made of plastic, unless you want to spend over a hundred grand on leather-covered plastic such as in a Ferrari or Bentley.

Man, I go nuts every time I read that.................

But even the leather interior has knobs and buttons which are made of.........................................plastic .

StarkyLuv · 03-21-2009, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lrc250

Follow this simple procedure and you will have no issues with blind spots. I have use this technique for years and it works great, no need to look over your shoulder.

http://www.linquist.net/motorsports/tech/mirrors/

That's very useful, thanks.

03-20-2009, 09:48 PM	#32
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03-20-2009, 11:15 PM	#39
Riderover40 Drives: 2010 ABM Camaro 2SS LS3 w/RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 648 View My Garage	What they said! You will not get all around visibilty in any car but when you got to the low profile , beefy statured muscle car like our new Camaro with the peep windows you will gain bild spots.....common on the previous Camaro I had but in short time I adjusted and you will too. I bet that the pleasure we are going to get out of these Chevy masterpieces will outweigh the extra stretch you will have to bear to see the blind spot........ bring on my 2SS ABM Manual RS with 380ish hp at the rears !!! __________________ Roto Fab CAI, Magnacharger MP2300, Kooks HO SS 1-7/8" LT's, Kook's Catted Connectors, Corsa SS Dual Rear Exit Cat-Back for A6 with Lasered Livernois Signature 4" Dual Wall Exit Pipes, Barton Short Throw. 546 RWHP 517 RWT This Car Rocks !! "Bring It On" GT-500

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