Gained 70 rwhp with meth

[camslambam]

Originally Posted by jordan 572

The only thing holding me back then is octane right? I have supportive fuel upgrades. Basically I have to put my trust in meth?

Yes. Or run race gas.

Meth is cheaper.

[jordan 572]

Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

Ask Ted to show you the pictures of my engine when the "unfailable" meth system shity the bed. Even though it does seem rare it most certainly happens.

Did you have waste gates to fall back on? Ted sad this would be a back up back up.

[HufferSS]

Originally Posted by jordan 572

The only thing holding me back then is octane right? I have supportive fuel upgrades. Basically I have to put my trust in meth?

I am not sure where we are disconnecting but you don't have to put your trust in meth....you can run it as an extra safeguard but if your tuner tunes it knowing that you want to be conservative and that you are going to run meth then you are fine. Personally on pump gas I would tune it for no Meth and then run meth....you'll be rich but that's ok.

[Supercharged SS]

Originally Posted by jordan 572

Did you have waste gates to fall back on? Ted sad this would be a back up back up.

No waste gate for me. I have a maggie but if I was running race gas I would have been ok. It was actually a blessing have that stocker go. Now I know it will handle all I can throw at it. Since that happened 2 years ago I ditched the meth and run a full tank of race gas (20 gallons) each time I track it. Basically between Sept - June I only put 104 in the car. I just buy 55 gallon drums but even that is way cheaper then building another engine. And it's not even the cost, the downtime is way way worse.

Obviously Ted knows what he is doing so you will NOT be relying on meth and using it as a saftey measure but if I were you I'd be dumping race gas in that thing if you plan on holding it to the floor!!!!!!

[camslambam]

Originally Posted by HufferSS

I am not sure where we are disconnecting but you don't have to put your trust in meth....you can run it as an extra safeguard but if your tuner tunes it knowing that you want to be conservative and that you are going to run meth then you are fine. Personally on pump gas I would tune it for no Meth and then run meth....you'll be rich but that's ok.

I thought most tuners did this already.

[Supercharged SS]

Originally Posted by calculator0512

true! i lost an engine to the meth demon.

Ah, the meth demon. He's a rotten bastard!!

He has a gotten a few more as well.

But that was actually the Supercharged SS demon that got you that time.

[jordan 572]

Originally Posted by HufferSS

I am not sure where we are disconnecting but you don't have to put your trust in meth....you can run it as an extra safeguard but if your tuner tunes it knowing that you want to be conservative and that you are going to run meth then you are fine. Personally on pump gas I would tune it for no Meth and then run meth....you'll be rich but that's ok.

I am with you but how can I tune it for 91 octane then have meth injection and utilize the high octane? Ted said he would boost up to 5 psi more wouldn't I have to rely on it then? My car never gOes to the track so it doesn't see much abuse.

[jordan 572]

I'm just confused how can I run a meth safe tune but still add boost because of the increased octane from meth?

[camslambam]

The simplest way I can explain to you is.... Imagine if you are tuned for 105 octane because you're using meth and the meth stops working.. You are suddenly at 91 octane under boost....Detonation would massacre your internals. So what most tuners do is tune you for say...93 and then you run at 105 with your meth so you have a cushion even if your meth fails.

Jump in anyone and correct me if I am completely wrong but this is the basic understanding I have of meth as a safety feature.

[HufferSS]

Tune for 93 and then add meth and don't add boost. I can't explain it any simpler.

[jordan 572]

Originally Posted by HufferSS

Tune for 93 and then add meth and don't add boost. I can't explain it any simpler.

I understand that but what is the point? All you would be doing is increasing the octane but not power?

[JLE58]

Exactly. If your not going to use it for what it's made for don't waste your money. You don't have to have it. What's your parents going to say about you having meth in the house anyways!

[jordan 572]

Originally Posted by JLE58

Exactly. If your not going to use it for what it's made for don't waste your money. You don't have to have it. What's your parents going to say about you having meth in the house anyways!

[HufferSS]

Originally Posted by jordan 572

I understand that but what is the point? All you would be doing is increasing the octane but not power?

The point is to be safer because you are 17 and if you blow your engine chasing a power number then you are screwed. If you want max power then add meth and add boost....if you want safety then add meth and don't add boost.....if you trust your tuner then run it with no meth and keep it conservative.

It's that simple.