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noisemker · 10-31-2010, 09:16 PM

Is it better to put it on stands or store it without?

mikeSS · 10-31-2010, 09:19 PM

i have always thought you should keep the car the way its made to... it wasn't design to be on stands for months... thats just my thoughts

spyderbuddy · 10-31-2010, 09:55 PM

get the tires off the ground. They tell me the best way is with the suspenion hanging (unloaded).

kylenewman · 10-31-2010, 10:08 PM

Everything I've read for the Camaro says not to store it with the suspension unloaded as this can cause damage. The suspension is meant to be loaded and can be damaged when unloaded for long periods of time.

95cam86roc · 10-31-2010, 10:16 PM

I was always told to store the car with the suspension loaded as was mentioned by kylenewman.

Sandor · 10-31-2010, 10:36 PM

The main reason people usually use stands is to prevent tire flatspotting. You can easily do that by simply moving the car each month, forward a foot one month then back a foot the next. No need for stands.

INTIMIDAT3R · 10-31-2010, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylenewman

Everything I've read for the Camaro says not to store it with the suspension unloaded as this can cause damage. The suspension is meant to be loaded and can be damaged when unloaded for long periods of time.

Viper595 · 10-31-2010, 10:38 PM

hmm. this one is tricky. in my humble opinion, it would be best to leave the car stored without jackstands, but make sure your tires are properly inflated at all times, as not to let them get flat-spotted from sitting with low air pressure. as far as the suspension goes, control arm bushings, sway bar link pins, struts and balljoints are all perfectly fine under loaded conditions, as this is how they are when the vehicle is operated, so simply letting the car sit would be perfectly fine. also make a point to start the vehicle at least once a month, let it idle to operating temperature before shutting it off if it's being stored over the winter.

danhr · 10-31-2010, 10:54 PM

on jackstands, with the jackstands supporting the car through a suspension component, as to compress the suspension, but still leave the wheel/tire off the ground... such as the lower control arm.

greenrail · 10-31-2010, 11:07 PM

I guess I must be way out in left field here. I havenever worried about the "flat spot" stuff when the car is only going to sit for a couple of months. I have had a collector car for the past 12 years.

When I stored the car, I changed oil, inflated tires to proper pressure, used Sta-bil in the tank, started it every couple of weeks, and that was it.

Yeah, the tires had flat spots on them, but when I drove each one of my collector cras, the flat spots were gone within the first 15-20 minutes of driving. Oh, the horror ---- NOT!

Had the car been stored for years, yeah , then maybe support to prevent permanent damage may be warranted. But for a couple of months. Nope, not in my experience.

It is much better to have the car sitting on it's suspension as mentioned by several previous posters on this site. Extended fully or compressed fully, may cause problems. THat is something to look out for.

Besides, if you have a nice clear day in the middle of Winter and the salt has been washed away, it sure is nice to be able to easily, take your car out for a quick cruise.

Just one person's, take.

20Camaro11 · 10-31-2010, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenrail

I guess I must be way out in left field here. I havenever worried about the "flat spot" stuff when the car is only going to sit for a couple of months. I have had a collector car for the past 12 years.

When I stored the car, I changed oil, inflated tires to proper pressure, used Sta-bil in the tank, started it every couple of weeks, and that was it.

Yeah, the tires had flat spots on them, but when I drove each one of my collector cras, the flat spots were gone within the first 15-20 minutes of driving. Oh, the horror ---- NOT!

Had the car been stored for years, yeah , then maybe support to prevent per,ament damage may be warranted. But for a couple of months. Nope, not in my experience.

It is much better to have the car sitting on it's suspension as mentioned by several previous posters on this site. Extended fully or compressed fully, may cause problems. THat is something to look out for.

Besides, if you have a nice clear day in the middle of Winter and the salt has been washed away, it sure is nice to be able to easily, take your car out for a quick cruise.

Just one person's, take.

I agree with this post. I have seen plenty of fine car collections, and none of them were on jackstands with the all the other overkill unecessary procedures. I say keep it simple....

greenrail · 10-31-2010, 11:14 PM

Rosie is my fourth "toy" car in the last 12 years. Flat spots were never permanent. Always went away during the first major drive every spring. Never came back until the car sat in storage each year.

Not really any problem.

1979 trans am
1974 corvette
1998 camaro ss
2010 camaro 2ss

GhostSS · 11-01-2010, 11:28 AM

Have been storing my cars on the tires for years. Also good in case of an emergency and you need to quick get out the car e.g. Fire.

ZED SLED · 11-01-2010, 11:38 AM

I've been winter storing for the past several years in my insulated, UNheated garage, on concrete, using only Stabil in a full tank, a battery tender, and car cover. Never had an issue. Flat spots are typically more prevelent on a high performance, low sidewall tire.These Pirellis are at best borderline for that. I had no flat spot issues last winter and don't expect to after this winter. See you in the spring.

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10-31-2010, 09:16 PM	#1
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10-31-2010, 10:54 PM	#9
danhr BAMF SS Drives: 2016 Camaro 1SS A8 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ford City, PA Posts: 3,024	on jackstands, with the jackstands supporting the car through a suspension component, as to compress the suspension, but still leave the wheel/tire off the ground... such as the lower control arm. __________________ 2016 1SS A8: FBO + Circle D + P1X + Meth + Tuned by Pray Performance Stock Longblock 800 SAE rwhp. 9.4 @ 145 mph.

10-31-2010, 11:07 PM	#10
greenrail Comic Curmudgeon Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS-2010 VW CC Sport Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near Chicago, IL Posts: 2,392	I guess I must be way out in left field here. I havenever worried about the "flat spot" stuff when the car is only going to sit for a couple of months. I have had a collector car for the past 12 years. When I stored the car, I changed oil, inflated tires to proper pressure, used Sta-bil in the tank, started it every couple of weeks, and that was it. Yeah, the tires had flat spots on them, but when I drove each one of my collector cras, the flat spots were gone within the first 15-20 minutes of driving. Oh, the horror ---- NOT! Had the car been stored for years, yeah , then maybe support to prevent permanent damage may be warranted. But for a couple of months. Nope, not in my experience. It is much better to have the car sitting on it's suspension as mentioned by several previous posters on this site. Extended fully or compressed fully, may cause problems. THat is something to look out for. Besides, if you have a nice clear day in the middle of Winter and the salt has been washed away, it sure is nice to be able to easily, take your car out for a quick cruise. Just one person's, take. __________________ Member Illinois Camaro Club His Name is Rosie - "Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick!" - If you know who said that, then you know the genesis of his name.

10-31-2010, 11:14 PM	#12
greenrail Comic Curmudgeon Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS-2010 VW CC Sport Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near Chicago, IL Posts: 2,392	Rosie is my fourth "toy" car in the last 12 years. Flat spots were never permanent. Always went away during the first major drive every spring. Never came back until the car sat in storage each year. Not really any problem. 1979 trans am 1974 corvette 1998 camaro ss 2010 camaro 2ss __________________ Member Illinois Camaro Club His Name is Rosie - "Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick!" - If you know who said that, then you know the genesis of his name.

10-31-2010, 09:19 PM	#2
mikeSS Drives: 2015 c7 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: MI Posts: 7,462	i have always thought you should keep the car the way its made to... it wasn't design to be on stands for months... thats just my thoughts

10-31-2010, 09:55 PM	#3
spyderbuddy Drives: 2010 RS Inferno Orange Metallic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Albany, Ga. Posts: 3,474 View My Garage	get the tires off the ground. They tell me the best way is with the suspenion hanging (unloaded).

10-31-2010, 10:08 PM	#4
kylenewman Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: N.E Posts: 231	Everything I've read for the Camaro says not to store it with the suspension unloaded as this can cause damage. The suspension is meant to be loaded and can be damaged when unloaded for long periods of time.

10-31-2010, 10:16 PM	#5
95cam86roc Legends NEVER die!! Drives: 1986 Iroc-Z LSx Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Portsmouth, OH IO Posts: 34	I was always told to store the car with the suspension loaded as was mentioned by kylenewman.

10-31-2010, 10:36 PM	#6
Sandor Chevrolet Performance Drives: Camaro Chroma Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: The Motor City Posts: 409	The main reason people usually use stands is to prevent tire flatspotting. You can easily do that by simply moving the car each month, forward a foot one month then back a foot the next. No need for stands.

10-31-2010, 10:38 PM	#8
Viper595 Redline drop, or go home Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Overland Park Posts: 263	hmm. this one is tricky. in my humble opinion, it would be best to leave the car stored without jackstands, but make sure your tires are properly inflated at all times, as not to let them get flat-spotted from sitting with low air pressure. as far as the suspension goes, control arm bushings, sway bar link pins, struts and balljoints are all perfectly fine under loaded conditions, as this is how they are when the vehicle is operated, so simply letting the car sit would be perfectly fine. also make a point to start the vehicle at least once a month, let it idle to operating temperature before shutting it off if it's being stored over the winter.

11-01-2010, 11:28 AM	#13
GhostSS Chuck Drives: 2010 Silver Ice Camaro SS Join Date: May 2010 Location: Deptford, NJ Posts: 33	Have been storing my cars on the tires for years. Also good in case of an emergency and you need to quick get out the car e.g. Fire. __________________ *"Work hard and spend it, you can't take it with you!"* Other Rides: 2008 Porsche 911 Carrera, 1964 Corvette Roadster & 2001 675HP Supercharged Corvette (Corvette By Chevrolet / Horsepower By: East Coast Supercharging) cdavis@adaptivesolutions.com

11-01-2010, 11:38 AM	#14
ZED SLED Drives: 2017 Mosaic Bk ZL1 M6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South of Raleigh, NC Posts: 9,618 View My Garage	I've been winter storing for the past several years in my insulated, UNheated garage, on concrete, using only Stabil in a full tank, a battery tender, and car cover. Never had an issue. Flat spots are typically more prevelent on a high performance, low sidewall tire.These Pirellis are at best borderline for that. I had no flat spot issues last winter and don't expect to after this winter. See you in the spring. __________________

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