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*CamaroSpike23* · 10-05-2007, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Don't mean to steal the thread - But for an at-home setup, no monster power numbers...how are the STS turbo twin/single(doesn't matter to me) setups?

Remotely mounted? I wanted some expert opinions...

you forgot to add small pockets

RichieFlorida · 10-05-2007, 07:46 PM

I am going to find some threads in my forum and link you to them.

night_kidd · 10-05-2007, 08:03 PM

hmm check out some twin turbo camaros on you tube they are pretty crazy. I think I am going to have to stick with twin turbos when i get my camaro

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-05-2007, 09:16 PM

"small pockets" right, I forgot that...but, the STS's aren't overly-expensive for what I'd want...

See? This is why I asked

...the trouble is - there's no test driving a Turbo, and a blower(centrifugal) to see which is what I want....

Power Junkie · 10-06-2007, 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichieFlorida

How true it is Power Junkie.

Right now I have 920rwhp and this red car has 1200 and is a TT. No overheating problems and we are in Florida. The split second or AEM both help address and fix this problem. The only thing is with the AEM you can not run dual injectors. I run dual injectors where the red car has singles. This car will run the Texas mile tomorrow. I was unable to go this year. Texas Boys are pissed at me and will be in Florida for the Dec Viper National so I owe a few dinners now.

Whoa... nice... i take it you've got some sort of intercooler system on those!!
How much boost you running??

RichieFlorida · 10-06-2007, 09:04 AM

The white S/C runs 15lbs of boost. I have an second intercooler over the right rear axle that holds almost 5 gallons. Ford Lightning pump to recirculate to the front. We do high speed interstate runs and this system makes for continuous boosting with no loss of power.

Red Car no info can go out since it is a new TT set up not the norm. The red car has been totally re done inside and out. Videos coming

Power Junkie · 10-06-2007, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichieFlorida

The white S/C runs 15lbs of boost. I have an second intercooler over the right rear axle that holds almost 5 gallons. Ford Lightning pump to recirculate to the front. We do high speed interstate runs and this system makes for continuous boosting with no loss of power.

Red Car no info can go out since it is a new TT set up not the norm. The red car has been totally re done inside and out. Videos coming

As in 15psi!!... my road car runs not far off that as standard, you car turn the standard tubby up to 1.2 bar or 17psi... but things start to get a little toasty under the bonnet... it's not recommended.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-08-2007, 12:24 AM

I've got a question:

Is it normally in a Turbo's nature to actually suck power away from a vehicle at low revs? (compared to N/A)

I've seen a few dynos, and that seems to be the case...unless it's just the way the dyno shows data....no, I'm not mixing up units or anything...

RichieFlorida · 10-08-2007, 09:17 AM

Normally the S/C is sucking away not the turbo.

Turbos are not known for very low power yet there Tq numbers are much higher then a S/C engine.

White Viper 920rwhp/900lbs S/C system

TT Red Viper 850rwhp and 1025lbs Tq.TT system

Turbos make a lot more Tq and they come on strong at midrange and eclipse the S/C which makes instant Tq. As the numbers climb the TT produces incredible driveshaft twisting Tq.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-08-2007, 10:55 AM

Okay, then maybe it's just the graph...(you know how it seems the power band just drops off to nothing at either end? I think that's what happened)

Thanks!

Grape Ape · 10-24-2007, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

I've got a question:

Is it normally in a Turbo's nature to actually suck power away from a vehicle at low revs? (compared to N/A)

I've seen a few dynos, and that seems to be the case...unless it's just the way the dyno shows data....no, I'm not mixing up units or anything...

It seems that the serious turbo motors are built with lower compression so as to survive more boost and thus make more power on boost. The trade off is that the low compression costs you a little power until the turbos spool up.

But I suspect that a lot of what you are seeing is just the steep curve caused by the turbos adding little or no power at low RPMs.

TFord · 10-24-2007, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grape Ape

It seems that the serious turbo motors are built with lower compression so as to survive more boost and thus make more power on boost. The trade off is that the low compression costs you a little power until the turbos spool up.

But I suspect that a lot of what you are seeing is just the steep curve caused by the turbos adding little or no power at low RPMs.

sounds like a guy that knows his turbos!

headpunter · 12-15-2007, 02:09 PM

magnacharger is distributed by GMPP at dealers now so you can have the dealer install it and you KEEP all your warranties (or get equivilent ones)

*Mr. Wyndham* · 12-15-2007, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headpunter

magnacharger is distributed by GMPP at dealers now so you can have the dealer install it and you KEEP all your warranties (or get equivilent ones)

They do?!?! Is there a site somewhere I can look into this? :p
The name "Magnacharger" makes me drool.....

10-05-2007, 09:16 PM	#32
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	"small pockets" right, I forgot that...but, the STS's aren't overly-expensive for what I'd want... See? This is why I asked...the trouble is - there's no test driving a Turbo, and a blower(centrifugal) to see which is what I want.... __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

10-08-2007, 12:24 AM	#36
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	I've got a question: Is it normally in a Turbo's nature to actually suck power away from a vehicle at low revs? (compared to N/A) I've seen a few dynos, and that seems to be the case...unless it's just the way the dyno shows data....no, I'm not mixing up units or anything... __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

10-08-2007, 10:55 AM	#38
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,876 View My Garage	Okay, then maybe it's just the graph...(you know how it seems the power band just drops off to nothing at either end? I think that's what happened) Thanks! __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

12-15-2007, 02:09 PM	#41
headpunter Not That sad..considering Drives: Man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: the part of washington the capital forgot about. Posts: 3,747 View My Garage	magnacharger is distributed by GMPP at dealers now so you can have the dealer install it and you KEEP all your warranties (or get equivilent ones) __________________ Stop Whinging

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10-05-2007, 07:46 PM	#30
RichieFlorida Drives: 69 SS Camaro Convertible Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Crystal River, Fl. Posts: 188	I am going to find some threads in my forum and link you to them.

10-05-2007, 08:03 PM	#31
night_kidd Drives: lexus Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: CaNaDa Posts: 20	hmm check out some twin turbo camaros on you tube they are pretty crazy. I think I am going to have to stick with twin turbos when i get my camaro

10-06-2007, 09:04 AM	#34
RichieFlorida Drives: 69 SS Camaro Convertible Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Crystal River, Fl. Posts: 188	The white S/C runs 15lbs of boost. I have an second intercooler over the right rear axle that holds almost 5 gallons. Ford Lightning pump to recirculate to the front. We do high speed interstate runs and this system makes for continuous boosting with no loss of power. Red Car no info can go out since it is a new TT set up not the norm. The red car has been totally re done inside and out. Videos coming

10-08-2007, 09:17 AM	#37
RichieFlorida Drives: 69 SS Camaro Convertible Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Crystal River, Fl. Posts: 188	Normally the S/C is sucking away not the turbo. Turbos are not known for very low power yet there Tq numbers are much higher then a S/C engine. White Viper 920rwhp/900lbs S/C system TT Red Viper 850rwhp and 1025lbs Tq.TT system Turbos make a lot more Tq and they come on strong at midrange and eclipse the S/C which makes instant Tq. As the numbers climb the TT produces incredible driveshaft twisting Tq.