Just a quick comparison...?

[jojohn33]

Originally Posted by Congoman775

The evo is a ricer car... it is going to handle well, and attract Asian girls that like world of Warcraft.

I hade no interest in the evo until I read this.

[JEFF2010SSMANUAL]

The EVO X is a hardcore track racer. No comparison to the Camaro. Plus the GSR is $34k and the MR is $39k. It rides very stiff but handle fantastic. The Camaro is a very sporty coupe that will handle real good and ride nice. The SS will handle better and ride a little stiffer. I was considering an EVO X MR but decided its too much of a track racer.

The cars I was considering was the BMW 135i, Infiniti G37S, STI, EVO X MR and maybe the G8 GXP. Now I am 99% sure I will get the Camaro SS LS3 manual. A perfect blend of power, good handling, looks, room and fun to drive. And the AWESOME sound of a REAL RWD V8 LS3 with dual exhaust.

[Blackstar]

Cool, lots of good insights here! Re: the money/insurance issue - I'm not planning on getting either for awhile. It's not that I don't have the cash; merely, it's not a necessity as of yet. Maybe after my second year at college (I'm gonna be a Freshman at Berkeley).

I just wanted a good-natured comparison of the cars, both of which I highly admire and respect for what they uniquely bring to the automotive world.

[Muscle Master]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

yeah, as far as handling..."crap" isn't the best word. The evo may be a little more nimble, but the Camaro will hold it's own in the handling dept. There's only ~300lbs between the two. Think G8 handling on steroids.

As far as a comparison...V6 Camaro v EVO GSR...

-The Camaro gets MASSIVELY better fuel economy. It should deliver 27mpg compared to the Evo's 22mpg. ON top of that, the Evo takes premium fuel, and the V6 Camaro only requires regular.

-It also develops more power. 300 (+) compared to 291. And you get the throaty roar of the DI V6 compared to the evo's...well, not a throaty roar.

-You mentioned it already; but you'll need 32 grand to even get into the Mitsubishi, whereas you shouldn't need any more than 23k to find yourself in a Camaro...that's nearly 10 thousand dollars....

-Camaro has 6-speeds all around auto/manual, but in the GSR you can only get a 5-speed manual transmission.

-The Camaro looks (imo) unbelievably better. MUCH more aggressive; and more likely to turn a head as your rolling down the street.

-As far as performance; the only numbers I could find on the Evo was about a 5.4 sec 0-60. The Camaro V6 shouldn't take much longer than that; and when you're talking about .3-.4 seconds....you might as well call it the same, it's not going to feel much different speed-wise....

Even if you got the SS Camaro, and absolutely blew ALL of the evo's numbers away; you'd still be spending less than the Lancer Evo...so the Camaro wins.

Your leaving out all the specs about the Evo X:

The Lancer Evolution X sedan features a newly designed 4B11T 2.0 L turbocharged, all-aluminum inline-4 engine. Power and torque depend on the market but all versions will have at least 280 PS (205.9 kW/276.2 hp) (JDM version), the American market version will have slightly more. The UK models will be reworked by Mitsubishi UK, in accordance with previous MR Evolutions bearing the FQ badge. Options for the UK Evolutions are expected to be between 300 hp (220 kW) and 360 hp (270 kW). Two versions of the car will be offered in the U.S. The Lancer Evolution MR, with 6-speed Twin Clutch Sportronic Shift Transmission (TC-SST). The other version is the GSR which will have a 5-speed manual transmission system. The car has also a new full-time all-wheel drive system named S-AWC (Super All Wheel Control), an advanced version of Mitsubishi's AWC system used in previous generations.[12]. The S-AWC uses torque vectoring technology to send different amount of torque to any wheel at any given time.

It also features Mitsubishi's new sequential semi-automatic six speed Twin Clutch SST twin-clutch transmission with steering-mounted magnesium alloy shift paddles. A 5-speed manual gearbox will also be available. Mitsubishi claims that the 5 speed manual transmission has always been preferred in rallying and should be very refined, resulting in a more satisfying drive.[13] New Lancer Evolution will incorporate Mitsubishi's next generation RISE safety body.

The production version of Prototype-X has begun production in Autumn 2007. The Evolution X went on sale October 1, 2007 in Japan [14] then in January 2008 in the U.S.A. [15], February in Canada (as the first version of Evolution in Canada)[16] and in March 2008 in the UK [17] at prices between £27,499 and £37,999.[18] The Twin Clutch SST version was available in Japan from November 2007.[19] Europe will follow with sales in May, GSR and MR version (= incl. Premium Package).


My Comments, hmm........ I don't know, I I don't think the evo qualify as a ricer, and the The Twin Clutch 6 speed is fierce as well, the evo may not have 300 horses but it has the weight advantage as well

[radz28]

Originally Posted by The_Beast_

Well for one when a Evo hears a Camaro coming it runs but when it gets caught............................................ .................well it isnt a pretty picture.

ROTFL!!! That's some funny 'ish!!!

Originally Posted by lsuduke

I'd have to look at specs a bit closer but initial idea, would be Camaro V-6 would be a tick slower than EVO X, if I remember correctly 0-60 is sub 5 sec on EVO X. All wheel drive will make it handle better in some situations and worse in others. Camaro, is gonna shine in interior space, options and refinement. EVO is a small car, looked at Lancer's when I bought my Vue , nice enough but still that economy car feel, and my tester had issues that I believed a new car shouldn't so I walked away, and Mitsu does not have a sterling record of reliability. EVO X is a race car, gonna have Recaro seats which may not be comfortable for a long ride, meant for safety over comfort. Options for an EVO probably be less then the Camaro as well, attempting to keep weight out of the car. Both of these cars rock, it is merely a difference in how they are executed by the manufacturers, ricer or not, it's a great piece of machinery, and should not be disrespected because of where its manufacturer is based.

I think it isn't quite a good comparison because IMHO, they aren't for the same demographic. I think the Evo is more directed toward an Asian crowd (and I AM Asian.) I think the idea is great, and the execution pretty good in certain respects, and the performance really, really good. Would I buy one? Nope. Why? Because I don't like it - just preferrence. There's nothing really wrong with the car, IMO, but it's just not of any interst to me. My brother just bought an '03, and yeah, it's okay, but just not my cup of tea. Will it drive around my '02 Z28 around a road course? Yes. Will I pull away from him like he's tied to a stump? You D@MN right!

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

The EVO is like a Zero and the Camaro is like a P-38.

I take offense to this... j/k How about an F4 Wildcat? Those were pretty cool

Originally Posted by JEFF2010SSMANUAL

The EVO X is a hardcore track racer. No comparison to the Camaro. Plus the GSR is $34k and the MR is $39k. It rides very stiff but handle fantastic. The Camaro is a very sporty coupe that will handle real good and ride nice. The SS will handle better and ride a little stiffer. I was considering an EVO X MR but decided its too much of a track racer.

The cars I was considering was the BMW 135i, Infiniti G37S, STI, EVO X MR and maybe the G8 GXP. Now I am 99% sure I will get the Camaro SS LS3 manual. A perfect blend of power, good handling, looks, room and fun to drive. And the AWESOME sound of a REAL RWD V8 LS3 with dual exhaust.

I can't say anything better. I think it will come down to person preferrence more than anything. Camaro, to me, has always just been a car for an enthusiast-like person. In my eyes, it's never been everyone's car; I mean comeon, who wants a hump in the floor under their feet? Anyhoo

[drivingincamaro]

an evo will prolly have more room for your buddies


this is a cadillac cts but the same engine is going to be in the v6 camaro


evo sound
ok could not find any videos on youtube

[Beelzebubba]

Another comment on build quality:

I've seen a 300,000+ mile 2.8 V6 Camaro. The headliner was torn to shreds. The driver's seat was effed up. The seatback was bent and made you kind of face 45° offset from the direction the car was driving and metal bits poked and jabbed you all over. The struts were long ago blown out and the steering had about a half turn of free play. The exhaust had more holes in it than a block of swiss cheese.

...but it was still running and could be driven. Not safely, but it would drive.

I don't think I've ever seen a 200,000 mile turbocharged Mitsubishi. Ever. Not on it's original engine.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Muscle Master

Your leaving out all the specs about the Evo X:

Not because I didn't want him to see them.

He'd have to opt for the 38k version (MR) in the US for the Twin-Clutch tranny. The GSR that he was talking about only offers the 5-speed manual as per their website. I was going to mention it; but then I found all that out and didn't deem it necessary.

As for the engine...it could be hand-built and made out of pure platinum, with 24k gold-tipped spark plugs and unicorn-hair braided fuel lines; but it still puts out 291 hp and delievers 22mpg.

I also want to add (that I forgot to above); the Mitsubishi has more interior room by about 2 inches in every direction....but it's a sedan and the Camaro's a coupe. I assume that's to be expected...



EDIT: Isn't this thing just called the 2008 Lancer Evolution GSR/MR , now? I thought the 'X' thing was just for the prototype they let everyone drive...

[Camaro_Corvette]

I just sat in an EVO the other day at an auto show, Don't get me wrong it was a nice car(I all tuners....not ricers though..they can just burn up and die) It fit me perfectly like it was built for me, and it had some nice touches on the interior that made it stand out from other cars there, (camaro wasn't there), but I don't think it is or will ever be better to ME! than a Camaro. Doesn't look any where near as good.

MY .02 cents

[carfansince73]

If you really want to compare a Lancer to the V6 Camaro, you'd be better off using the all-new Lancer Ralliart (sp??). It's got most of what the EVO has, but not as much power, fewer lightweight body panels, less advanced AWD, but it does have the twin clutch automatic. Even this lower priced version will still be more than a V6 Camaro, but the performance should be similar.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Not because I didn't want him to see them.

He'd have to opt for the 38k version (MR) in the US for the Twin-Clutch tranny. The GSR that he was talking about only offers the 5-speed manual as per their website. I was going to mention it; but then I found all that out and didn't deem it necessary.

As for the engine...it could be hand-built and made out of pure platinum, with 24k gold-tipped spark plugs and unicorn-hair braided fuel lines; but it still puts out 291 hp and delievers 22mpg.

I also want to add (that I forgot to above); the Mitsubishi has more interior room by about 2 inches in every direction....but it's a sedan and the Camaro's a coupe. I assume that's to be expected...



EDIT: Isn't this thing just called the 2008 Lancer Evolution GSR/MR , now? I thought the 'X' thing was just for the prototype they let everyone drive...

I'm not sure if you were being serious, LOL, but I believe the "X" represents the tenth itteration. My brother's '03 is a IX for example... Sorry if I took it too seriously

[Blackstar]

Oh, manual for me. Automatics (no matter how fancy) aren't for me. I need that third pedal
Yeah, Evo X just means the 10th version of the Evo. Technically, it's called the Lancer Evolution GSR/MR.
Cool, seems like I'll be quite content in the Camaro!

I actually just watched the Top Gear episode with the new Evo vs Sti comparison - Jeremy loved the Evo lol

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by radz282003

I'm not sure if you were being serious, LOL, but I believe the "X" represents the tenth itteration. My brother's '03 is a IX for example... Sorry if I took it too seriously

Nope, that's exactly what I was asking... If you can't tell; I don't keep up on Mitsubishi...10 = X....that would make sense.

THANKS!!!

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Blackstar

Hey guys, I'm very, very! interested in the new Camaro (V6 for me insurance ftl)

Anyway, I was curious what you guys thought of a comparison between the V6 DI Camaro and the new 2008 Evo X GSR. Vastly different cars, I know, but still, sate my curiosity!

Thanks.

for car comparisons, there are two types of people: price and features (including hp). Few cars are ever matched in both. I like to compare price, you seem to be going by hp. nothing wrong with that. But the V6 Camaro won't beat a car that costs 10k more than it does. In terms of styling, thats subjective. Comfort? I bet the Camaro is much more comfortable for a daily driver. and it gets vastly better fuel economy, despite being heavier.

Much of the same applies if you go with the SS, but it should outperform the Evo on all but the twistiest of tracks, assuming good weather of course. and it still costs less