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Old 02-17-2010, 02:31 PM   #85
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Yep cause we own Canada, they know it, we know it, the paper work just hasn't been filled out yet.

The same with Mexico

We dont own Canada.

We build/assemble aircraft and sell them to Canada for them to protect the people who live to build this Camaro we drive.
Even Canada makes things like the Canopy for the f16 we just install it.

Anyone watch the Olympic opening ceremonies ? America walked out and Canada stood and clapped. They support us as we do them.

Right now the replacement for the f16 future and in the works f35 joint strike fighter is over budget but guess what money from countries like Canada has been pitched in to keep it going and make everything so far possible.

im a proud american and I agree buy from here if we can but only very few things in life are american MADE.
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I got a question for you and im not here trying to cause an argument either.
This is a Camaro site and we as Camaro owners have an opinion just as you Mustang Owners have your opinion ( I like to say as americans we have that right ) However this is a thread about Ford laying off people and more than 98% Camaro people on here who dont like Ford even say its sad to see an American lose his/her job even if they sell the competitor.

Then you come in and basically bring up the factor the Camaro is the alien and how sad people are buying an alien.

Let me tell you something man I work for the Aerospace industry and We build fighter jets that protect this country. Probably over 45% of its parts are now contracted all over the world and the plane is put together right here in Ft worth Texas.
We used to build everything that went on a F16 from the moment it was raw material to the moment it rolled out to the flightline and into the sky. Now we only make 55% of it and assemble it. NOTHING IS 100% MADE IN THE USA
Your Mustang is not MADE in the USA it is Assembled in the USA there are pleanty of foreign made parts on that car the only difference is your car was Assembled in Michigan and the Camaro was Assembled in Canada.

If you want to argue with someone over a car vs a car thats fine whatever man but dont look down on the Camaro and say its a shame because of where it was ASSEMBLED. Thats BS imo and yes its only my opinion however I guess this coming Friday morning when its time for 9 F16's to be sent over to iran for service we need to stop them because I wouldnt want a plane thats only 55% american made to protect your Butt.


NOTHING IS 100% MADE IN THE US Not even that wonderful Brand of motorcycle so many Americans Sport with a Eagle and the american flag on it HARLEY Davidson.

This is not a tear down thread on a automaker this is a thread where someone lost his job mainly because Ford SCREWED up by telling everyone so soon next years car will be more Hp therefore people said I will wait. Not as many cars were built and now look !!!!!! I'm sure soon they will rise once again since the love for your beloved car is so high with many out there.


There is no difference between your car and a Camaro in how its made just where it is put together.

And dont even go with the but my money goes to FORD yours goes to the Goverment BS thats another story my friend

Right now your tax paying money is paying a gentleman I know in Palm Dale California to sit on his butt and not do anything because he is waiting on a aircraft part that someone in Arizona didnt make correctly.

You can thank your good old American USAF for that.

This is not a Rant thread man come on we are both Americans let show some pride comes as one and pray those 900 folks get another job with the ford system and keep the 3 automakers going strong.

Good luck and god bless everyone who is without a job im thankful for where I work and for the Folks at the oshawa plant who make an honest living Assembling the Car I have dreamed of owning a NEW Camaro.


if this gets me banned so Be it im not here to start trouble just try and point out for once dont Flame this thread.
Not only do I not see anything disrespectful in the post, but .

People are people. Our cars are made from all over the world now. Parts from our cars even come from all over the world. A while back I swore I wanted this car built in America. But, when you have the good folks at Oshawa putting our cars together with near ZERO issues, are you going to want to change THAT?!?!?!

Again, people are people. We ALL need jobs. WIthout Ford, who would we have to compete against? Our Camaro sure woulnd't be what we wanted it to be!

Long live ALL automakers...FORD INCLUDED. WE NEED THEM.
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lets get back on subject folks and hope those 900 Ford employees get jobs.
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Old 02-17-2010, 02:34 PM   #88
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I love my Camaro but the thought of 900 people losing there job is terrible!


Well said.
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Old 02-17-2010, 02:37 PM   #89
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What an interesting turn in topic....


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Long live ALL automakers...FORD INCLUDED. WE NEED THEM.
Yeah well.....company t can still rot.

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lets get back on subject folks and hope those 900 Ford employees get jobs.
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Old 02-17-2010, 02:55 PM   #90
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What I don't understand is why the new mustang hasn't gone through any evolution since release. When you know the Challenger is going to come out (and beat ya) just before the Camaro comes out (and beat ya more)...why not produce a better car? Ford seems to be sitting back on its heels, trying to ride the success of an amazing release. But, as Peter, Paul, and Mary said "these times, they are a-changin'", time for the mustang to change too...
The Chally really isn't beating either one.

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Gotta ask what the configuration is. My local dealer has had 4 2SS sitting for over a month. The one thing they all have in common, automatic transmission. Never can seem to keep a manual on the lot though...
I admit I admit I don't know the trims but they have sold more auto than manual Camaros.
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Old 02-17-2010, 03:02 PM   #91
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[QUOTE=PQ;1492366]The Chally really isn't beating either one.

Yes, and it's sad to me...seeing Dodge go through all this, there was quite a bit of hype behind the Challenger, it just doesn't have the styling the Camaro or Mustang does.

But...I digress...I've paid over 40K to be in the GM club now.
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Old 02-17-2010, 03:22 PM   #92
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The 2011 5.0 Coyote may put them back to work.
I really beleive that ... The 5.0 will get them back .. there too under powered in this market right now...
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Old 02-17-2010, 03:24 PM   #93
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it sucks they are being laid off, but i find it funny how ALOT of you feel sorry for them but DID not care if GM went bankrupt and i lost my job and thousands of others would of lost their jobs
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Old 02-17-2010, 03:29 PM   #94
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Too bad the Camaro is not made in the good ol USA
its not where its made its who makes it and where the money goes, would you call the toyota tundra and American product because its made in San Antonio, tx?
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Old 02-17-2010, 03:32 PM   #95
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You know this subject keeps getting brought up time after time ! It really is dis-heartning to see members slagging the Camaro as being from Canada , and the fact we are some alien country that deserves no industry to servive. I have always had an American built truck ( no problems ) yes my current Z-71 is Oshawa built , but my next one will be from Fort Wayne . Do i care....NO !! My other vehicle is a 2009 Malibu built in Mich , Do i care ..NO

I could have bought an Oshawa built Impala but we liked the Malibu , my wife never at any time asked me where it was built , as long as it was GM then it was ok with her . I have sent a letter thanking the plant for a great car and have recommended it to friends and family . I'm proud to have American friends and proud to support GM products regardless of where their built.

Man i 've got to stop reading these threads about which country is better
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You know this subject keeps getting brought up time after time ! It really is dis-heartning to see members slagging the Camaro as being from Canada , and the fact we are some alien country that deserves no industry to servive. I have always had an American built truck ( no problems ) yes my current Z-71 is Oshawa built , but my next one will be from Fort Wayne . Do i care....NO !! My other vehicle is a 2009 Malibu built in Mich , Do i care ..NO

I could have bought an Oshawa built Impala but we liked the Malibu , my wife never at any time asked me where it was built , as long as it was GM then it was ok with her . I have sent a letter thanking the plant for a great car and have recommended it to friends and family . I'm proud to have American friends and proud to support GM products regardless of where their built.

Man i 've got to stop reading these threads about which country is better



Man first of all Thank You for a job very well done on my Camaro and Secondly forget about what the nay sayers think you know you build a great product that supports 2 great Nations/Allies and I am glad that this Camaro along with other GM products can support BOTH Americans and Canadians because we would both "countries" be alot worse off without each other
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it sucks they are being laid off, but i find it funny how ALOT of you feel sorry for them but DID not care if GM went bankrupt and i lost my job and thousands of others would of lost their jobs
I think the difference is that the Jobs are being lost 'Post Bailout'

Much of the 'Let GM go bankrupt' attitude was meant instead of bailout.

Just a possibility.
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I feel sorry for the Ford workers that drove a domestic car off the lot but none for the Asian market cars. Yes I'm aware the Camaro is made in Canada
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