Manual vs Auto GTAHVIT vs PQ... The video wars.

[PoorMansCamaro]

No, bumblebee was a vw bug...

[turtlezx]

GOOD ONE STEVE

[StlRomAniaN]

Originally Posted by BlackM6RS/SS

M6 is always going to be funner/have the advantage on the street/highway over a auto HP for Hp, nuff said, or at least people who can BANG gears

I couldn't disagree more. HP ofr HP the A6 has the advantage for both the street/highway. On the street, you can't really out-launch an A6 (especially with a stall). On the highway, TAPshift allows you to be in the pulling gear you want so throttle response is instantaneous.

Look at it: the L99 does wonders against the LS3 with 40-55 less rwhp.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by StlRomAniaN

I couldn't disagree more. HP ofr HP the A6 has the advantage for both the street/highway. On the street, you can't really out-launch an A6 (especially with a stall). On the highway, TAPshift allows you to be in the pulling gear you want so throttle response is instantaneous.

Look at it: the L99 does wonders against the LS3 with 40-55 less rwhp.

With the help of some gearing of course.

I hid some text in white below, so the guys in the LS3s won't find it.

But, ya, the auto is faster, we just gotta tolerate the cavemen in the sticks. lmao

[CaniacFan]

Originally Posted by PQ

With the help of some gearing of course.

I hid some text in white below, so the guys in the LS3s won't find it.

But, ya, the auto is faster, we just

gotta tolerate the cavemen in the sticks. lmao

Cute PQ, but you better "puruse" over to another thread - it's all about you!!!

[PQ]

Originally Posted by CaniacFan

Cute PQ, but you better "puruse" over to another thread - it's all about you!!!

I just did.....

[GTAHVIT]

Brando for member of the year!!!!!!!!!

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by jmaryt

"tons" of u.s drivers still prefer the manual,BECAUSE shifting is part of the "fun" experience!..regardless of the efficiency of the "slush" box!

"Tons"....."fun"...."slush"
using quotes for the purpose of exaggerating those terms? lol

Originally Posted by ZCT

For me personally, buying a manual, would be like tossing my iPhone and getting a Razr.

you should toss the iPhone anyway

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

# 6 you're stuffing a nice cam in your car, and don't want to have to shell out more money for a stall converter.
#7 you don't want AFM or VVT headaches that go with the cam swap.
# 8 you don't want to spend even more money to match a gear to the stall to go with the big cam.

what kind of VVT headaches are you experiencing? have you checked out Mast Motorsports or Comp Cams' gen IV VVT cams for the camaro?

Originally Posted by Shardik2SS

But they don't have a manual so they must not be real men.

of course...lol

Originally Posted by RJT-Maro

It's not about the transmission, it's about the person behind that transmission shifting it.

Originally Posted by PQ

Ok.

So here are some facts I need to consider.

Auto tranny.
The L99 has more horse power.
Is a lot lighter.
Comes with much better tires on it.
Sits lower to the ground.
Cost less.
Has stiffer suspension.

Manual tranny.
Cost more.
LS3 has less power.
Soft and loose suspension parts.
Heavier curb weight.
Hard rubber tires that spin too much.

What did I forget?

LMAO

Originally Posted by PQ

Originally Posted by PQ

It's on manual lock. You have to decide not to read it. You're in control.

Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

So should I tell everyone that you wanted to trade your's in for a manu....


oops...

he wanted to trade his in for your supercharged manual

Originally Posted by Scrappy Doo

A6's don't run out of gas though GTA

Originally Posted by PQ

Cause, I'mma be ribbin you.

thats what she said

Originally Posted by GearheadSS

The main reason that I didn't get the auto was because of the L99. I just couldn't get over the fact that I'm paying more for the auto yet getting an engine with less horsepower than the LS3.

I also don't care for AFM.

cus peak horsepower is what really matters

Originally Posted by PQ

Put the heritage grill in. Only took 2 hours. Would have taken 3 hours if it were a manual.

Originally Posted by shank0668

Actually, there is quite a few who can't drive manual. PQ is just jealous.

there's plenty who can drive a manual, now... driving proficiently is another story

Originally Posted by nhra stocker

I opened the drivers manual in the glove box in my buddys L-99 and it played a song , like the Greeting cards a Wal-mart.

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Anyone can drive a manual, but only PQ is willing to try and stop a wheel with his finger ...

can you stop your wheel manually?.

Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

Here's the rest of PQ's vid....

Originally Posted by PQ

Let it be known. I didnt' ask for, and I don't like VVT and AFM.

do you not remember the conversation we had on the phone about VVT?

Originally Posted by racrx451

this coming from the guy that has more posts than miles on his car.. ur gonna need a manual to keep you at least a little active after sitting in your gaming chair, hacking away on the computer all day.

but remember... he's down a finger whilst typing this much.

Originally Posted by PQ

Originally Posted by GearheadSS

Not BS sir. I drove both cars back to back and the buttometer showed that the LS3 car felt and was faster than the L99 bone stock.

placebo effect.

Originally Posted by Da Hose

y'all wouldn't be talking so much smack if you were a gear shifting jedi master like me!!!!!.......what???....what was that dear???? we have an auto??? an L99 auto??? oh.....u mean the tapshift doesn't count as a manual tranny???? uh...uh...

L99's Rule!!!!

Originally Posted by PQ

It's still my contention that 70% of the cars at the track ARE manuals. So of course they're gonna make up 70 % of the list.
statistics... its all in the numbers
I don't know about that. Think about it. I've seen people driving down the interstate with a full news paper spread out. I think there would be more accidents.
proponent of advanced Darwinism.... kill the stupid ones early so they can't reproduce
I will however say, after starting the moding, the A6 will DOMINATE that list.

Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

He said little people...

OMG THATS IT. too short to use all three pedals...

Originally Posted by PQ

Hmmmmm............ We'd have to see on that one.

Tall enough to drive yours Kareem.

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

Hell yeah.......I need to keep in touch with my female side...

I try to touch my female side as often as I can

Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

DG you didn't know who Kareem is????

I'm getting old.... dammit. Now I have to trade in my car for an auto like PQ's...
$#!t

you arent old.... DG just fails.

Originally Posted by Lancecar69CGM

I bet Bruce Lee drove a manual

no, Bruce drove the L99. Bruce Lee based his whole Jeet Kune Do off of using what is useful, disregarding what is useless and interpreting what is essentially his own.

that being said.

useful - automatic being faster than manual
useless - manual requiring more work to accomplish the same goal
his own - tap shift.

Trust me. I got this on lock.

Originally Posted by camaropete

Perhaps a set of these?

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

Chuck Norris drives a M6.

Thread over.

yep. he thinks he's a real man because of it too.

Originally Posted by PQ

Chuck Norris drives and L99 and I can prove it.

no you cant.

Originally Posted by Rip

Eh, drive a 3 on the tree with no PS or AC. That was my first initiation to the wonderful world of driving when I was 14.

been there before. no power steering, no power brakes... no real power.

Originally Posted by 76z28

yup...thats why they use AUTOS in drag racing

in certain classes

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

Just like those automatics they use in NASCAR....oh wait..

well, how often are they needing to shift in milliseconds in Nascar? going 180+ mph for 500 miles.... you rarely go thru the full range of gears except when going in and out of pit lane

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

Autos shifted MANUALLY.

thats what I used to run in my 94. a reverse manual valve body 4 speed auto in my 94Z. depending on how you want to look at it, im driving a manual. because I have to shift every gear. up and down. I just dont use a clutch pedal to do so. and I can guarantee you that I can slap my trans to the next gear faster than you can pop the clutch, change gears, and release the clutch.

Originally Posted by PQ

and there's some more good info in this thread too

(primarily my posts in that thread...lol)

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5313

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

"Tons"....."fun"...."slush"
using quotes for the purpose of exaggerating those terms? lol


you should toss the iPhone anyway

what kind of VVT headaches are you experiencing? have you checked out Mast Motorsports or Comp Cams' gen IV VVT cams for the camaro?

of course...lol




LMAO






he wanted to trade his in for your supercharged manual




thats what she said

cus peak horsepower is what really matters




there's plenty who can drive a manual, now... driving proficiently is another story



can you stop your wheel manually?.





do you not remember the conversation we had on the phone about VVT?

but remember... he's down a finger whilst typing this much.




placebo effect.









I try to touch my female side as often as I can

you arent old.... DG just fails.


no, Bruce drove the L99. Bruce Lee based his whole Jeet Kune Do off of using what is useful, disregarding what is useless and interpreting what is essentially his own.

that being said.

useful - automatic being faster than manual
useless - manual requiring more work to accomplish the same goal
his own - tap shift.

Trust me. I got this on lock.




yep. he thinks he's a real man because of it too.


no you cant.

been there before. no power steering, no power brakes... no real power.
in certain classes


well, how often are they needing to shift in milliseconds in Nascar? going 180+ mph for 500 miles.... you rarely go thru the full range of gears except when going in and out of pit lane


thats what I used to run in my 94. a reverse manual valve body 4 speed auto in my 94Z. depending on how you want to look at it, im driving a manual. because I have to shift every gear. up and down. I just dont use a clutch pedal to do so. and I can guarantee you that I can slap my trans to the next gear faster than you can pop the clutch, change gears, and release the clutch.



and there's some more good info in this thread too

(primarily my posts in that thread...lol)

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5313

Spike, I've missed your mega-quotes

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Spike, I've missed your mega-quotes

apparently you arent the only one. lol


you ever read the quoted multi-quotes as if they were a regular post?






btw... all you manual owners... quick question for you


how many use
traction control?
launch control?
cruise control?

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

you ever read the quoted multi-quotes as if they were a regular post?

Why do you think I even bothered to quote it in the first place?

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

btw... all you manual owners... quick question for you


how many use
traction control?
launch control?
cruise control?

I leave TC and ST on pretty much always.

I've accidentally used LC But I didn't side step the clutch (duh) and it was fine.

I use CC pretty regularly since I drive about 20 miles to work on the freeway...

keeps me out of trouble.

[Big Brunsy]

glad I didn't read the whole thread and just skipped to the last page. great synopsis Spike

[Blade]

I hate it when Spike goes away for months and then decides to dig up the old threads and puts up mega posts.........LOL.