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Old 01-07-2011, 10:11 AM   #15
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alfie, you have a blower, he does not, does he?
i think a guy could pump in a 50 wet shot without tuning.....

got my flame suit on.
Oh sorry! My bad!

I didn't read his OP thoroughly. I assumed he had a Maggie. I will delete that post. Thanks for the correction.
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:59 AM   #16
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n2o is the harshest thing you can do to a motor. Why do you think you need to pull timing?
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Old 01-07-2011, 12:14 PM   #17
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Seeing how you have a cam, that means you have had your car tuned.

DO NOT SPRAY ANY AMOUNT OF NITROUS INTO YOUR CAR WITH PULLING TIMING!

You car, right now, is tuned for max N/A performance. That means there is a good amount of timing in the tune (you could have upwards of 30* of timing.... some tuners believe that the ls3 heads LOVE timing).

If you were still stock, I'd say a 100 shot, without pulling timing, would be fine, because they are tuned conservatively from the factory.... but since someone tuned it, you are flirting with disaster.
Agree. Add the MSD modual that will pull timing when the nitous solinoid is powered and you have no issues. Properly installed and tuned nitrous is an excellent power adder w/out having to worry about much, but the key is proper setup & tune.
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Old 01-07-2011, 12:31 PM   #18
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You don't need to pull timing when your running nitrous..
You tune the car, run a smart tune and your good to go. Nitrous is a cold charge to begin with. FI and nitrous are two entirely different animals.
You should not be running on the edge of detonation to begin with, but yes if you detonate under nitrous bad things will happen... just as eventually if your running n/a and have to aggressive a tune and are detonating all the time you will have an issue eventually.

Lot of advice in this thread from people who just dont know. ^^^ right above me

As far as nitours being perfectly safe...LOL... go to youtube and search nitrous disaster or explosion and you will see the real nitrous world. There are a million things that have to go right for a safe spray and in that same instant there are million things that can go wrong. You should see the complete picture before you decide on any mod but especially nitrous.

Then you have the rod bearings.. whole other chapter there


I have been doing this for a while and being an engine builder/repair center we see the true story.




search nitrous backfire there are a bazillion vids with engine fires

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Old 01-07-2011, 12:59 PM   #19
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Well I think that just about sold me on never to buy anything from CC performance. LOL
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LMAO! We've got an LSX 434 sitting here right now built for a DP 400 shot.
I personally don't care what you think to be 100% honest danr... your wrong but I'm not going to argue with you.
Your run a safe tune, you don't need to pulll timing for nitrous... do you even know why people pull timing on FI?
Seriously there is a lot of misinformation by people on here and its incredible.
None of this is anything new but yet some of you are inventing your own theories and I'm not sure why.


You have a dry shor or a wet shot... most people preffer the wet shot.. nitrous needs fuel when being used... people who run a dry shot use a device to add fuel via the injectors... people who run a wet shot have the fuel added via a solenoid.... its not magic.. it also doesnt require the timing to be pulled if the car is tuned correctly.. its a cold charge of air ... FI is a hot charge of air

I've run nitrous kids and we have a tons of customers who do the same..
A proper tune is what you run and you dont have issue with it.
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Old 01-07-2011, 01:11 PM   #21
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cylinder pressures with a denser charge due to naws, requires less pre ignition., NO?
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I don't even know what FI is?

Are you talking about the Film Industry?

No... I do not know why there are retards in the film industry.
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I don't even know what FI is?

Are you talking about the Film Industry?

No... I do not know why there are retards in the film industry.
Testament to your ignorance
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i hope hes pulling your leg......
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Testament to your ignorance
Yeah well you smell funny.
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Yeah well you smell funny.


ok that was pretty funny... look I dont want to argue and I dont appreciate the attack on my business... I'm here to try and help some people from making mistakes, it cost me money to sponsor on here and I only offer cetain things for a reason... You seriously dont know what a person means when they say FI? Its Forced Induction... supercharger or turbo.. Nitrous is a fuel.. they are two different animals
The charge or "air" coming from a s/c or turbo is very hot ... nitrous is very very cold.. there is a total difference.
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geez here i thought nitrous was an oxident. did i spell it right?
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Well I think that just about sold me on never to buy anything from CC performance. LOL
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