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lgret13 · 03-04-2011, 04:36 PM

I had a 93 firebird V6 and the transmission was leaking. It took the dealer over 3 times for them to try and fix it. After going to another dealer and on the 4th attempt the new dealer replaced it. The car also was out of service for more than 30days, including other minor repairs (leaking t-tops etc...). After filing for lemon law (I asked for a refund and not a comparable car), GM agreed to take back the 94 and give me the same car, but a 96, and we agreed that I would pay the difference/increase in invoice between the two years. It was worth it.

You may file for lemon law under either NY or NJ. Since you live in NY I would apply in New York. NJ's threshold is harder to overcome become you must send a certified letter to the manufacture prior to the repair being completed. Also, if the repair was completed you may not qualify, I think the defect must still exist.

Under NY law, if the car was out of service for a total of 30 calendar days or more, even for the same repair and even if the repair was completed, you may qualify so long as the manufacture does not try to rebut and state that longer than 30 days for this type of repair is reasonable. Also, you could probably argue that the repaired engine substantially devalues the car.

(Disclaimer: This is not to be construed as legal advice and I am not your lawyer.)

PQ · 03-04-2011, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkneSS

This feels terrible lol

I know how it feels to have your car on ice for that long. Mine was that way on jackstands in my garage.

It was not a car problem but aftermarket stuff, but it still sucks.

But like the Evil Twin said, easy fix. Pain in the ass, but easy fix. And no cost to you. Done in a day. So I'd go ahead and throw those mods on there and enjoy.

DarkneSS · 03-04-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lgret13

I had a 93 firebird V6 and the transmission was leaking. It took the dealer over 3 times for them to try and fix it. After going to another dealer and on the 4th attempt the new dealer replaced it. The car also was out of service for more than 30days, including other minor repairs (leaking t-tops etc...). After filing for lemon law (I asked for a refund and not a comparable car), GM agreed to take back the 94 and give me the same car, but a 96, and we agreed that I would pay the difference/increase in invoice between the two years. It was worth it.

You may file for lemon law under either NY or NJ. Since you live in NY I would apply in New York. NJ's threshold is harder to overcome become you must send a certified letter to the manufacture prior to the repair being completed. Also, if the repair was completed you may not qualify, I think the defect must still exist.

Under NY law, if the car was out of service for a total of 30 calendar days or more, even for the same repair and even if the repair was completed, you may qualify so long as the manufacture does not try to rebut and state that longer than 30 days for this type of repair is reasonable. Also, you could probably argue that the repaired engine substantially devalues the car.

(Disclaimer: This is not to be construed as legal advice and I am not your lawyer.)

Im going to get the lawyers figure everything out. Apparently NJ is actually easier but again they will take care of everything.

I'll update when I know whats up.

BackinBlackSS/RS · 03-04-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkneSS

Im going to get the lawyers figure everything out. Apparently NJ is actually easier but again they will take care of everything.

I'll update when I know whats up.

So you are going to lemon law the car? Do you want out of this car now?

DarkneSS · 03-04-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

So you are going to lemon law the car? Do you want out of this car now?

Im not sure what Im allowed to say, just being careful. But I have consulted a lawyer and am pursuing avenues he has suggested.

hamr56 · 03-04-2011, 05:24 PM

Wow that totally blows! I am sorry to hear this, hope it all works out for you.

PQ · 03-04-2011, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkneSS

Im not sure what Im allowed to say, just being careful. But I have consulted a lawyer and am pursuing avenues he has suggested.

Sounds like you don't want the car anymore.

Maybe just document the troubles and give it one more chance?

I get the frustration. I've had my share for sure but I'm glad I stuck with it and allowed the companies to take care of them. I think you'd enjoy the car if you kept it. Let the dealer know your thoughts and maybe a letter from your lawyer and they may kiss your ass for a while. Tell them you want the engine bay, underside clean and no more problems.

DarkneSS · 03-04-2011, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PQ

Sounds like you don't want the car anymore.

Maybe just document the troubles and give it one more chance?

I get the frustration. I've had my share for sure but I'm glad I stuck with it and allowed the companies to take care of them. I think you'd enjoy the car if you kept it. Let the dealer know your thoughts and maybe a letter from your lawyer and they may kiss your ass for a while. Tell them you want the engine bay, underside clean and no more problems.

I dont want THIS camaro. No matter how this ends I plan on being in a 5th gen! I think this is just one if the bad ones.

BackinBlackSS/RS · 03-04-2011, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PQ

maybe a letter from your lawyer and they may kiss your ass for a while. Tell them you want the engine bay, underside clean and no more problems.

Well, I don't see a need for a letter from the lawyer to the dealer. They are fixing it under warranty and I'm not aware that they have given him any crap over this current issue. I would think a letter from the lawyer would be going to GM to lemon law this car. That is all I can think.

I don't see any other reason to get a lawyer involved.

BackinBlackSS/RS · 03-04-2011, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkneSS

I dont want THIS camaro. No matter how this ends I plan on being in a 5th gen! I think this is just one if the bad ones.

Okay, I understand it now.

Phantom.5SS · 03-04-2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkneSS

I dont want THIS camaro. No matter how this ends I plan on being in a 5th gen! I think this is just one if the bad ones.

I felt that way when the dealer (Depaula) splooged clear coat all over my car and it felt like sand paper paint! Its good now thanks to a REAL body guy who took care of it like it was his own...to the tune of $400 bucks at my expense. Maybe you can try another dealer/ mechanic who really is into the cars and will care for it better.

You may find you love your car again.....I did.
Either way, good luck to you.

Alfieboy · 03-04-2011, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NiR

its a new car with not much miles. a car with less then 20k miles should not have all these problems. i would be frustrated as well.

new guy..I wasnt saying that...Id be frustrated as hell..

what Im saying is everyone saying LEMON LAW IT! Get Rid of it!..Blah Blah...

could just be a simple o-ring.....? who the hell knows..it sure isnt another blown motor.

Alfieboy · 03-04-2011, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tangorover

Thats really not the point. Having to take in you car repeatedly simply sucks. It doesnt matter then if the Dealer is nice or the Manager is nice or that The president of GM calls you and apologizes. having a car with issues simply sucks. Obviously many of you guys have had our Camaro's trouble free. So its has to be a quality control issue.

Point is Id be pretty pissed if I didnt have my car for 44 days and then had something go wrong no matter now minor.

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TJ91 · 03-04-2011, 06:03 PM

I wouldnt want that car either, people, having a Camaro that constantly needs repairs gets old real fast.
I too would lemon law the car

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03-04-2011, 04:36 PM	#43
lgret13 Drives: '11 CTS-V Coupe Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NY Posts: 6	I had a 93 firebird V6 and the transmission was leaking. It took the dealer over 3 times for them to try and fix it. After going to another dealer and on the 4th attempt the new dealer replaced it. The car also was out of service for more than 30days, including other minor repairs (leaking t-tops etc...). After filing for lemon law (I asked for a refund and not a comparable car), GM agreed to take back the 94 and give me the same car, but a 96, and we agreed that I would pay the difference/increase in invoice between the two years. It was worth it. You may file for lemon law under either NY or NJ. Since you live in NY I would apply in New York. NJ's threshold is harder to overcome become you must send a certified letter to the manufacture prior to the repair being completed. Also, if the repair was completed you may not qualify, I think the defect must still exist. Under NY law, if the car was out of service for a total of 30 calendar days or more, even for the same repair and even if the repair was completed, you may qualify so long as the manufacture does not try to rebut and state that longer than 30 days for this type of repair is reasonable. Also, you could probably argue that the repaired engine substantially devalues the car. (Disclaimer: This is not to be construed as legal advice and I am not your lawyer.)