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BigDan · 04-26-2011, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Black5thgen

Take it any way you want I see a severe driver problem if he can't out run a bolt-on 5.0 with a cammed and tuned SS.

Then tell him yourself in the thread below.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...133602&page=11

Huggerorange73 · 04-26-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Black5thgen

Take it any way you want I see a severe driver problem if he can't out run a bolt-on 5.0 with a cammed and tuned SS.

As the owner of a cammed & tuned SS, I have to agree with severe driver problem.

Mr CLuTcH · 04-27-2011, 09:02 PM

The guy said his son's 5.0 was LOUD,....well that tells us something,...he didn't just have an exhaust and cai, he must have also had HEADERS put on the thing because stock, the SS or 5.0 aren't very loud when it comes to exhuast. Even with a nice magnaflow system the car won't be "LOUD" as if you can hear it coming down the street like a freight-train. That 5.0 he raced had to have had a full header/exhaust system, cai, and a tune to even mildly keep up with a full bolton+cammed SS.

I can swear to that! I've ran 5.0 on a runway with just cai, exhaust, and tune, they do put out some nice power gains and it's weight is an even more favorable trait, but STILL I've passed these guys by once we hit 130+mph. A 5.0 with headers, exhaust,cai, and a tune would stand a greater chance against a cammed SS. So maybe the son had that and you didn't know, that would explain why his 5.0 is LOUD. Headers REALLY open these cars up.

blizzpat · 04-27-2011, 09:42 PM

Does the cammed guy only have a cam and tune??

People need to learn that you can't just throw one little thing on.... cams need headers and cai to work good and gearing and so on...... But if you are getting 460rwhp and a bolt-on 5.0 is outrunning you... you should have got an auto because you can't drive.

GQ4Life · 04-27-2011, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by blizzpat

Does the cammed guy only have a cam and tune??

People need to learn that you can't just throw one little thing on.... cams need headers and cai to work good and gearing and so on...... But if you are getting 460rwhp and a bolt-on 5.0 is outrunning you... you should have got an auto because you can't drive.

blizzpat · 04-27-2011, 09:52 PM

I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything lol... I'm just sayin'

GQ4Life · 04-27-2011, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blizzpat

I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything lol... I'm just sayin'

This guy maybe trading in GTO for camaro

Huggerorange73 · 04-27-2011, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blizzpat

But if you are getting 460rwhp and a bolt-on 5.0 is outrunning you... you should have got an auto because you can't drive.

This....

ULTRAZLS1 · 04-27-2011, 10:45 PM

Not to take the dark side or anything....but havent some minor bolt on 5.0's trapped 117-119? Thats right where the average trap of a cammed camaro will be. Some have trapped 120 plus but thats nearer to 500rwhp and a larger cam.

Just saying...if trap speed would determine this race it would be close. Not that its the only factor. My money would be on the camaro...but it may be close as he is saying. If he is at 460 rwhp and the 5.0 at 400-410 it will be a close race...especially considering drivers.

blizzpat · 04-27-2011, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Not to take the dark side or anything....but havent some minor bolt on 5.0's trapped 117-119? Thats right where the average trap of a cammed camaro will be. Some have trapped 120 plus but thats nearer to 500rwhp and a larger cam.

Just saying...if trap speed would determine this race it would be close. Not that its the only factor. My money would be on the camaro...but it may be close as he is saying. If he is at 460 rwhp and the 5.0 at 400-410 it will be a close race...especially considering drivers.

The guy states he's getting 460rwhp... He either has an extremely crappy setup or he can't drive... you choose.

Never heard of people going cam+tune.... Some more info on the cammed ss would be nice.... because H/C/I SS are hitting over 500rwhp... so he may need a new setup because his car ain't running strong.

BigDan · 04-27-2011, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

The guy said his son's 5.0 was LOUD,....well that tells us something,...he didn't just have an exhaust and cai, he must have also had HEADERS put on the thing because stock, the SS or 5.0 aren't very loud when it comes to exhuast. Even with a nice magnaflow system the car won't be "LOUD" as if you can hear it coming down the street like a freight-train. That 5.0 he raced had to have had a full header/exhaust system, cai, and a tune to even mildly keep up with a full bolton+cammed SS.

I can swear to that! I've ran 5.0 on a runway with just cai, exhaust, and tune, they do put out some nice power gains and it's weight is an even more favorable trait, but STILL I've passed these guys by once we hit 130+mph. A 5.0 with headers, exhaust,cai, and a tune would stand a greater chance against a cammed SS. So maybe the son had that and you didn't know, that would explain why his 5.0 is LOUD. Headers REALLY open these cars up.

His son's 5.0L is LOUD because he is running an off road mid pipe with SLP Loudmouth's. Don't forget that all 5.0L's come from the factory with a legit set of shorty headers so that coupled with a pair of the loudest mufflers and no cat's is gonna be freaking LOUD.

One other thing to consider why this I/E tuned GT is pulling his cammed SS is due to the 5.0L's all new Twin Independent Variable Cam Timing. It may not seem like that big of an advantage to the average guy but the ability to make peak horsepower at red line and hold it for longer will most always result in being quicker even though the other car makes more power but lower in the rev's and with a shorter range. This is why a 400whp EVO's always beat a 500whp Mustang's from a dig and on the freeway even if the weight's are similar.

Huggerorange73 · 04-27-2011, 11:02 PM

No disrespect to any 5.0 folks....But I've yet to see one of these mythical creatures run an eye popping number at the strip. 13.4 one time, and the other time it ran 8.5 in the 1/8 mile.

scrming · 04-28-2011, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

No disrespect to any 5.0 folks....But I've yet to see one of these mythical creatures run an eye popping number at the strip. 13.4 one time, and the other time it ran 8.5 in the 1/8 mile.

Sure have... Mike from Powerhouse in his 100% stock 5.0, with 3.31s and 18" inch wheels... had like 27 miles on it:

He managed to pull off 12.7s...

scrming · 04-28-2011, 06:22 AM

A loud 5.0... How's this... This is a 5.0 with MRT Race H-pipe WITH Cats and the MRT KR Axle back..

04-27-2011, 09:02 PM	#3265
Mr CLuTcH Always On Kill! Drives: S.I.M. SS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 780	The guy said his son's 5.0 was LOUD,....well that tells us something,...he didn't just have an exhaust and cai, he must have also had HEADERS put on the thing because stock, the SS or 5.0 aren't very loud when it comes to exhuast. Even with a nice magnaflow system the car won't be "LOUD" as if you can hear it coming down the street like a freight-train. That 5.0 he raced had to have had a full header/exhaust system, cai, and a tune to even mildly keep up with a full bolton+cammed SS. I can swear to that! I've ran 5.0 on a runway with just cai, exhaust, and tune, they do put out some nice power gains and it's weight is an even more favorable trait, but STILL I've passed these guys by once we hit 130+mph. A 5.0 with headers, exhaust,cai, and a tune would stand a greater chance against a cammed SS. So maybe the son had that and you didn't know, that would explain why his 5.0 is LOUD. Headers REALLY open these cars up. __________________ S.I.M. SS(L99): American Racing Headers (LT) Magnaflow cat-back competition exhaust K&N typhoon CAI Aggressive cam. Tune Result*: 465rwhp/ 447rwtq. Satisfied.

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blizzpat Account Suspended Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Panama Posts: 491	Does the cammed guy only have a cam and tune?? People need to learn that you can't just throw one little thing on.... cams need headers and cai to work good and gearing and so on...... But if you are getting 460rwhp and a bolt-on 5.0 is outrunning you... you should have got an auto because you can't drive.

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blizzpat Account Suspended Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Panama Posts: 491	I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything lol... I'm just sayin'

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ULTRAZLS1 Drives: 14 Silverado LTZ Z71, 16 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Jackson, Michigan Posts: 4,418	Not to take the dark side or anything....but havent some minor bolt on 5.0's trapped 117-119? Thats right where the average trap of a cammed camaro will be. Some have trapped 120 plus but thats nearer to 500rwhp and a larger cam. Just saying...if trap speed would determine this race it would be close. Not that its the only factor. My money would be on the camaro...but it may be close as he is saying. If he is at 460 rwhp and the 5.0 at 400-410 it will be a close race...especially considering drivers.

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Huggerorange73 Banned Drives: The REAL C5 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Norridge, IL Posts: 1,830	No disrespect to any 5.0 folks....But I've yet to see one of these mythical creatures run an eye popping number at the strip. 13.4 one time, and the other time it ran 8.5 in the 1/8 mile.

04-28-2011, 06:22 AM	#3276
scrming Red Brick of Vengeance! Drives: 12 Second Brick Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: at my pulpit Posts: 7,745	A loud 5.0... How's this... This is a 5.0 with MRT Race H-pipe WITH Cats and the MRT KR Axle back..